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12-13-2008, 09:45 PM
Ludwig van BeethovenIn 1779, a composer, writer, teacher, and dreamer named Christian Neefe arrived in Bonn, Germany, to work for the Electoral Court. Neefe (pronounced nay-fuh) was the definition of what Germans call a Schwärmer, a person swarming with rapturous enthusiasms. In particular, he was inflamed with visions of endless human potentials that the Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment promised to unleash. Like many progressives of the time, Neefe believed that humanity was finally coming of age. So he had picked the right place to get a job. Bonn was one of the most cultured and enlightened cities in Germany; the court supported a splendid musical and theatrical establishment (http://nfl-access.blogspot.com/2008/12/giants-rb-jacobs-out-against-cowboys-ap.html). Before long in his new post, Neefe found himself mentoring a genius. Meanwhile, in his spare time, he signed on with a plan to, as it were, rule the world! (http://2-stroke.blogspot.com/2008/12/ktm-to-launch-atv-and-to-race-programs.html)

One of Neefe’s first students was a sullen, grubby, taciturn 10-year-old
keyboard (http://boxinginsider.blogspot.com/2008/12/d-hop-out-from-b-hop-shadow.html) player named Ludwig van Beethoven. He was the son of an alcoholic singer who had more or less beat music into him. The kid seemed more like a charity case than a budding musician, but Neefe soon discovered that his talent could put him in the league of the musical (http://1800blingbling.info/2008/12/even-celebrities-love-a-bargain/)phenomenon of the age, a child of freakish gifts named Mozart.
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12-16-2008, 09:21 PM
Im pretty sure Mozart was a Freemason.:)

12-17-2008, 01:08 PM
Masons are even among us now

12-30-2008, 11:16 AM
Im pretty sure Mozart was a Freemason.:)

Masons are even among us now

12-30-2008, 07:39 PM
Mr. Worshipful Master's presence is barely noticed, if at all.

12-30-2008, 08:44 PM
What is it that you are trying to convey by stating that you are a real boy?

How old are you?

If you're over the age of 18, you are considered a man.

If you are over the age of 18, and consider yourself a boy, something is dreadfully wrong with you and, might I ask, what is the difference between a REAL BOY and a fake one?
Humor, satire, and so forth. I was making light of your comment about me being barely noticeable.

01-18-2009, 11:38 AM
Oh, no.

Beethoven was influenced by the Illuminati.


absurd? How is it absurd?

01-20-2009, 12:45 PM
absurd; out of tune.

Get it?

I was hoping for argumentation but appearently you believe that we have some sort of a mindreading device so we can read your mind and understand everything.

This was really stupid response and you know it.

01-20-2009, 02:05 PM
I've heard about Mozart being a Mason and it is accepted, but I've never heard before that Beethoven was a member of the Illuminati.

01-20-2009, 11:34 PM
Well, we're just so glad that you accept Beethovan was a Mason. Ever occur to you that Freemasonry is connected to the Illuminati?
Where did I accept Beethoven as a Mason? I said I had not heard about this before. I said MOZART was a Mason, but not Beethoven. Oh, it's occurred to me, but I researched, looked around, and found no connection.

01-25-2009, 06:55 PM
Heads up.
To what?

01-25-2009, 08:25 PM
Tails, down.

What say you, KSigMason?


01-26-2009, 12:11 AM
You spelled the word incorrectly and to whom are you referring as delusional?
Whoops, I was in a hurry when I wrote that post. I was referring to the author of "Satan's Demons Attacked Me Last Night!"

01-26-2009, 01:15 AM
We're not talking about the author of the thread.

We're talking about the interview of one of your brothers on the thread.

I have provided the link.

Now view it.

Stop playing dumb.

It doesn't become you, oh, Worshipful Master.

Now, again.

What say you?
I actually saw that video, on another site, where a old Shriner (not confirmed) was harassed by some religious zealot. Personally, I think, if he was truly a Shriner, that he was not all there. Look at him, he's old and I don't think he quite realized what the filmer was doing.

On ATS, some people said that either a) he was not of sound mind, b) he was not truly a Shriner (its not hard to get one of their fezzes), or c) he was just fucking with the filmer.