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nomad
05-15-2005, 07:48 PM
Hello brothers and sisters,

Today I feel like I have seen the resurrection.

Today I have seen free energy devices made by the

inventor at a small by invitation only

conference.

What Tesla spoke about that is not

in use today is REAL ! The inventor himself

said that he is only doing what Nikola Tesla

has already done 100 years ago. I have seen it

with my own 2 eyes today. Because this will come

out more and more, I believe the NWO is going

to soon instigate the bloodiest catastrophy man

has EVER seen. This simply technology eliminates

C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y the need for

A-L-L the hydro electric companies ...

A-L-L the oil companies ...

A-L-L gaz and oil heating companies ...

A-L-L battery companies ... etc etc etc.

FREE energy is REAL REAL REAL.

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 08:15 PM
Free Energy !!! :-o :-o :-o

Hey, e-mail me the schematics. You know before you either disapper, or commit the unthinkable... (just kidding) but hey, "share the knowledge."

8-)

nomad
05-15-2005, 08:29 PM
we were not allowed to take any pictures and

no plans were or will be given ... the

authorities know about him and he will be killed

immediately if he started to make others free ...

he himself is using a small device that

powers EVERYTHING in his apartment ... we were

shown the device ... 1/2 the room consisted of

electricians or people working in the electric

field ... people brought in small appliances

and he powered all of them with NO batteries and

NO regular electrical input except his device that

was mobile and plugged in to nothing.

The " inventor " was born autistic, was of the

age of 40 yet his mind was that of about someone

of 12-15 years old. He had very minimal

formal education. Jimbo this is REAL. My hope

is to pass on this message to others so you

may also KNOW that FREE energy is REAL REAL REAL.

I will be glad to answer any questions.

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Free Energy !!! :-o :-o :-o

Sounds like a "zero-point-energy" device. Sucking energy right out of the "ether"... I believe you. I have read about "zero-point-energy" devices & there are at least few patents out there. I've also read about someone who said they wanted to make a unit commercially available. Let's see...

8-)

nomad
05-15-2005, 08:49 PM
To believe or know about is one thing ... when

you see it work in front of you it leaves you

stunned ... almost like a religous experience.

All the devices suck energy right out of the

ether. We had over 4 hours of various

demonstrations and all the devices were passed

around and could have been investigated by

everybody. The electricians in the room put

their electric meters to test the devices.

We witnessed Radios working with NO batteries

UNPLUGGED that were brought in by anybody who

cared to bring them. We witnessed light bulbs

working with NO batteries but plugged into his

device. The bulbs plugged into his device

were far BRIGHTER than when plugged into the

standard electrical outlets.

YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS AVAILABLE COMMERCIALLY

because it WIPES out most of the economy PERIOD.

They will instigate the DEATH of BILLIONS or

people before they will let you or I have this.

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 08:55 PM
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

U.S. Patent Number 5,590,031 - Zero-Point Energy Extraction
U.S. Patent Number 5,590,031 - Link (http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,590,031.WKU.&OS=PN/5,590,031&RS=PN/5,590,031)

Exploiting Zero-Point Energy
http://www.padrak.com/ine/ZPESCIAM.html

On The Measurement Of The Zero Point Energy
http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1179

Understanding Zero Point Energy
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/zeropointenergy-11.24.00.htm

Zero Point Energy Concept & Experiment
http://users.erols.com/iri/ZPENERGY.html

Zero Point Energy Decoded
http://www.combat-diaries.co.uk/diary19chapter_5.htm

Zero Point Energy Is Tapped
http://www.rense.com/general7/sci.htm

Zero Point Physics, Vacuum Energy, Scalar Physics – The New Physics
http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai

Zero-Point Energy Extraction From The Quantum Vacuum
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=781

Zero Point Energy Reactor
http://www.thenewfrontiers.com/info_eng.htm

Density Matrix – Zero Point Energy Density
http://destinymatrix.blogspot.com/2004_02_01_destinymatrix_archive.html

8-)

nomad
05-15-2005, 08:59 PM
Thanks Jimbo because I have seen the devices

I will have a very good idea on which patent

etc to look at. The devices I have seen

were simple wires placed in coils. The total

cost to make a device to power a house for

ETERNITY I would estimate would be less than

$50.00 ... Do you know of any plans that

consist ONLY of wires ? ... no capacitors

or ANY other components.

Only WIRES in coils. Have you seen or heard

of any such plans ??

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 09:05 PM
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

You better take a second look, & use your photographic memory. Just a thought...

8-)

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 09:08 PM
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

What does the coil looks like. Better yet get the part number, the size of the wires (wire gauge) & how many loops around the coil, & what is at the center of the coil...

8-)

nomad
05-15-2005, 09:11 PM
If I see a similar plan or device I will

recognize it immediately ... we were shown

about 20 them and they were mostly the same ...

wires in coils with NO components except

on off switch ...

p.s. folks this PROVES

without a doubt that the government and

secret services can plant listening devices

in tvs radios etc and when you think it is

off can actually be on and listening in on you ...

because they need NO batteries or power source

to work.

nomad
05-15-2005, 09:14 PM
Jimbo wrote:
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

What does the coil looks like. Better yet get the part number, the size of the wires (wire gauge) & how many loops around the coil, & what is at the center of the coil...

8-)

there is NOTHING at the center of the coil

his most powerful device had coils within

coils ...

all the devices had a big 2 inch by 6-9 inch

cylindrical coil thin wire ... that I would guess

sucks the power from the ether and the other wire

in smaller coils perhaps transforms it somehow to

be useable.

People help me out I have SEEN and TOUCHED this

work in a room that consisted of EXPERTS and

everyone was dumbfounded.

rushdoony
05-15-2005, 09:23 PM
There is a revolution just beginning in astronomy/cosmology that will rival the one set off by Copernicus and Galileo. This revolution is based on the growing realization that the cosmos is highly electrical in nature. It is becoming clear that 99% of the universe is made up not of "invisible matter", but rather, of matter in the plasma state. Electrodynamic forces in electric plasmas are much stronger than the gravitational force.
Mainstream astrophysicists are continually “surprised” by new data sent back by space probes and orbiting telescopes. New information always sends theoretical astrophysicists "back to the drawing board". In light of this, it is curious that they have such "cock-sure" attitudes about the infallibility of their present models. Those models seem to require major "patching up" every time a new space probe sends back data.

Astrophysicists and astronomers do not study experimental plasma dynamics in graduate school. They rarely take any courses in electrodynamic field theory, and thus they try to explain every new discovery via gravity, magnetism, and fluid dynamics which is all they understand. It is no wonder they cannot understand that 99% of all cosmic phenomena are due to plasma dynamics and not to gravity alone.

When confronted by observations that cast doubt on the validity of their theories, astrophysicistss have conjured up pseudo-scientific invisible entities such as neutron stars, weakly interacting massive particles, strange energy, and black holes. When confronted by solid evidence such as Halton Arp's photographs that contradict the Big Bang Theory, their response is to refuse him access to any major telescope in the U.S.
more:
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 09:27 PM
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

So then the secret is inside the coil itself. Some kind of a hybrid capacitor/coil, except you don’t see the capacitor, since it’s embedded in the coil itself.

See depending on how many watts of power you are pulling out of this device, the wires & the coil have to be able to handle the load (amperes) & therefore, if you are powering an A/C unit, the wires have to be thick, just like the ones you use for a 220 volts r.m.s circuit. Now, for a radio, CD player, etc, then the wires & the coil itself are probably much smaller…

Just ignore the "noise", if you know what I mean...

8-)

nomad
05-15-2005, 09:29 PM
that's all nice but this autistic inventor

has almost zero formal education ... in fact he

said that to do what he did you would have

to think like a CHILD ... he says that he is

amazed that we can not think like him ...

THINK for second ... the materials

to make a device to run an entire house

for ETERNITY costs less than $50.00 ... once

you know how to make this ALL the fancy

education in the world is worth zilch !

nomad
05-15-2005, 09:32 PM
Jimbo wrote:
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

So then the secret is inside the coil itself. Some kind of a hybrid capacitor/coil, except you don’t see the capacitor, since it’s embedded in the coil itself.

See depending on how many watts of power you are pulling out of this device, the wires & the coil have to be able to handle the load (amperes) & therefore, if you are powering an A/C unit, the wires have to be thick, just like the ones you use for a 220 volts r.m.s circuit. Now, for a radio, CD player, etc, then the wires & the coil itself are probably much smaller…

Just ignore the "noise", if you know what I mean...

8-)


the device can power anything

with 120 volts and 75 amperes

OR

220 volts and 75 amperes if I remember correctly.

he lite up a 200 watt bulb with it

as well ... also he had a smoker from the

audience put his cigarette between the connector

of the bulb and his device and he lite his

cigarette with the heat.

Jimbo
05-15-2005, 10:09 PM
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

So then, the wires & the coils have to be sized for maximum load of 75 amps at 120 Vrms, & therefore they have to be thick. Not 2 ways about it (the ones that feed the appliance). They have to be thicker than your standard home wiring, so that it can handle the “75 amps.” Now, you then can connect whatever you want to it provided it’s a 110-120 appliance. For example, a standard power-strip is rated at 15A – 125V AC (rms).

Ok, from what you described, you said there were multiple coils w/in coils. How many? How far away from each other? Were they all of the same “height”, or were there any towards the center that were “taller” & like a cylinder? Just curious… I hope you are Ok, bud !!!

NOTE: Hey, this is the weirdest shit, all of the sudden I could not get through the site, specially when trying to answer back to you. I could still navigate the Internet, but for some odd reason I couldn’t get through to the “club”… And I don’t think it was the “server,” because I could “ping” it, I saw some people posted, but I couldn’t get through. I was practically “crawling.”

8-)

truebeliever
05-16-2005, 12:01 AM
NOTE: Hey, this is the weirdest shit, all of the sudden I could not get through the site, specially when trying to answer back to you. I could still navigate the Internet, but for some odd reason I couldn’t get through to the “club”… And I don’t think it was the “server,” because I could “ping” it, I saw some people posted, but I couldn’t get through. I was practically “crawling.”

Yup...Just last week I was having the same problems.

Strangely, people have reported it individually with some people fine and others 'crawkling'.

It's almost like a DOS attack but only targetting a certain number at a time.

Perhaps a call to the admin to ask if they've been fiddling with the server?
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75 amps! Thats ALOT of amps. Roughly 4 amps per 1000W?

Thats a thick cable. Must be alot of resistence.
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I dont want to appear a doubting Thomas but why does'nt he go public...REALLY public...set up in a park. Get as much publicity as possible. Set up camera's to record if anyone moves on him...there would be a million and one ways...

Jimbo
05-16-2005, 12:27 AM
ClubConspiracy DOS Attack ??? :-o :-o :-o

truebeliever, when I first joined the club, I don’t remember exactly, but for some reason I had to communicate w/ them, & it seemed as though it was probably just 1 person answering my e-mails. They were very friendly & helpful. They thanked me for my posts, encouraged you to post some more. Some time after that I needed some help, & I had sent them my questions the same way as before, via e-mail, but then I never received an answer. I know they probably got busy, but I tried several times, & then I just gave up, after a few times w/o getting anything back.

Do they have a phone number ???

Anyhow, regarding the 75 amps, I guess this unit he was describing is supposed to provide power for an entire home, so 75 amps might not be enough for an entire house. My breaker panel, I just looked, carries a total of 360 amps, so… yeah, chances are I am not pulling that much all of the time, but it’s just the capacity that it could handle under a complete maximum load. As far as the resistance is concerned, a thick cable has actually less resistance than a thinner cable. Just like in speaker wires. If they are thicker you waste less energy in the cable run, because the current flows much easier over additional surface area, & thus it’s better. If you use instead thinner & longer cable runs, then because of the added resistance (to current flow) in the wire, you’ll loose some energy in the cable itself, as what is called, IR losses (I x I x R).

I’m tired, I’m retiring… see ya’

8-)

truebeliever
05-16-2005, 01:38 AM
Wah! 360Amps! I'm no electrician...but i believe the average Oz house is around 30-35 total. Perhaps more on modern homes with all the refrig air con.

nomad
05-16-2005, 04:16 AM
Yeah I noticed the site and my computer crashed

as I was writing yesterday ... maybe just a

coincidence.

nomad
05-16-2005, 04:19 AM
truebeliever wrote:
NOTE: Hey, this is the weirdest shit, all of the sudden I could not get through the site, specially when trying to answer back to you. I could still navigate the Internet, but for some odd reason I couldn’t get through to the “club”… And I don’t think it was the “server,” because I could “ping” it, I saw some people posted, but I couldn’t get through. I was practically “crawling.”

Yup...Just last week I was having the same problems.

Strangely, people have reported it individually with some people fine and others 'crawkling'.

It's almost like a DOS attack but only targetting a certain number at a time.

Perhaps a call to the admin to ask if they've been fiddling with the server?
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75 amps! Thats ALOT of amps. Roughly 4 amps per 1000W?

Thats a thick cable. Must be alot of resistence.
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I dont want to appear a doubting Thomas but why does'nt he go public...REALLY public...set up in a park. Get as much publicity as possible. Set up camera's to record if anyone moves on him...there would be a million and one ways...


Listen I am not an electrician but I went

there with an electrician that received an

invitation. The wires were NOT thick. The

ones in the big cylinder coil were thicker than

the others but not by much.

nomad
05-16-2005, 04:24 AM
Jimbo wrote:
ClubConspiracy DOS Attack ??? :-o :-o :-o

truebeliever, when I first joined the club, I don’t remember exactly, but for some reason I had to communicate w/ them, & it seemed as though it was probably just 1 person answering my e-mails. They were very friendly & helpful. They thanked me for my posts, encouraged you to post some more. Some time after that I needed some help, & I had sent them my questions the same way as before, via e-mail, but then I never received an answer. I know they probably got busy, but I tried several times, & then I just gave up, after a few times w/o getting anything back.

Do they have a phone number ???

Anyhow, regarding the 75 amps, I guess this unit he was describing is supposed to provide power for an entire home, so 75 amps might not be enough for an entire house. My breaker panel, I just looked, carries a total of 360 amps, so… yeah, chances are I am not pulling that much all of the time, but it’s just the capacity that it could handle under a complete maximum load. As far as the resistance is concerned, a thick cable has actually less resistance than a thinner cable. Just like in speaker wires. If they are thicker you waste less energy in the cable run, because the current flows much easier over additional surface area, & thus it’s better. If you use instead thinner & longer cable runs, then because of the added resistance (to current flow) in the wire, you’ll loose some energy in the cable itself, as what is called, IR losses (I x I x R).

I’m tired, I’m retiring… see ya’

8-)


The 75 ampere bunch of wires device he used to

plug a few appliances ... There was alot of

info flowing and people were not always

quiet (understandbly). He had about 20 devices

with him and it would be simple to have a device

for each appliance made. Oh he claims that

he has made a real live working car powered

by a similiar device. In the conference he

only showed a working model car with the wires

and wheels set on a transparent plexiglass and

he had it drive through the room. Oh

and he said to FORGET everything you think

you know about electricity and what you have

learned in school. NONE OF WHAT YOU LEARNED

APPLIES OR CAN EXPLAIN WHAT HE DOES PERIOD.

nomad
05-16-2005, 04:29 AM
why doesn't he go public ?

good question.

When he was younger he is now about 40, (he made

his first device at 12 years old) he innocently

sent a device needing no batteries with a light

bulb on it to the utility company. Next thing you

know he was sent to a mental institution for

13 years where he was probed with electrodes and

shock therapy. The speaker who would try to

explain things for him says that this experience

has scarred him and made him very paranoid.

nomad
05-16-2005, 05:15 AM
Jimbo wrote:
Zero-Point Energy Extraction :-o :-o :-o

So then, the wires & the coils have to be sized for maximum load of 75 amps at 120 Vrms, & therefore they have to be thick. Not 2 ways about it (the ones that feed the appliance). They have to be thicker than your standard home wiring, so that it can handle the “75 amps.” Now, you then can connect whatever you want to it provided it’s a 110-120 appliance. For example, a standard power-strip is rated at 15A – 125V AC (rms).

Ok, from what you described, you said there were multiple coils w/in coils. How many? How far away from each other? Were they all of the same “height”, or were there any towards the center that were “taller” & like a cylinder? Just curious… I hope you are Ok, bud !!!

NOTE: Hey, this is the weirdest shit, all of the sudden I could not get through the site, specially when trying to answer back to you. I could still navigate the Internet, but for some odd reason I couldn’t get through to the “club”… And I don’t think it was the “server,” because I could “ping” it, I saw some people posted, but I couldn’t get through. I was practically “crawling.”

8-)

Today I will be going over to my electrician

friends house and together will try to draw

the general layout of the device ... he being

an electrician ... it should be

easy to have a rough layout done ... I will

then seek out any patents that are similiar to

this ... and go from there ... I have decided

that from now on I will concentrate on this only

one topic in any posts I will make for the future

everything else is useless to discuss. If anybody

can help me locate any patent or design made

ONLY of wires and coils PLEASE for the Love of

God ... help me.

truebeliever
05-16-2005, 05:58 AM
PLEASE for the Love of

God ... help me.

Ha ha ha ha ha...

I dont know why thats so funny.

Sorry mate...not trying to give you a hard time!

Jimbo
05-16-2005, 09:23 AM
Zero Point Energy Transfer – :-o :-o :-o

Well, all I’m saying is that 75 amps is a lot of amperage. A single circuit breaker is typically up to 40 amps. For example, my “range” is in an “80” amp circuit (2 “40” amp breakers), & my “A/C” is in a “60” amp circuit (2 “30” amp breakers), just to give you an idea. Are the wires solid “copper or aluminum”?, or are they “stranded” wire (a bunch of finer solid wires stranded together as in a “rope” fashion)?

If I come across a circuit in the Internet I’ll definitely bring it up, but I doubt they are going to show it. I’d suggest to just, take a good look w/ you eyes & mind, & look for details such as, are they donut shaped?, rounded or square like?, materials used?, how many?, is the center coil also surrounded by loops of fine wire?, how many total coils, 2, or 3, or more?, how many loops of wire around each coil?, how far apart are the coils from each other?, sizes?, weight?, etc., & if you can cut 1 of them in half, then you can see what’s inside. Is it solid metal?, or hollow?, is it solid or made out of adjacent “thin plates”?, Does it have a “dialectric” (sort of like an insulating material between conductors) of any kind?, are there any sharp edged or thin metal looking devices anywhere?, such as antennas?, or waveguides (high frequency antennas)?, is there an “on/off” switch?, or is it “on” all the time?, does it heat up under load (when connected to an appliance)?, & if there is any other weird looking shit, be able to describe it, etc., etc.,…

Feel free to drop me a line…

8-)

nomad
05-16-2005, 09:28 AM
Jimbo I will make a drawing with my electrician

friend and write down the specs we remember ...

also there is another conference coming ... so

I will make sure to take more precise notes.

Jimbo
05-16-2005, 09:37 AM
Zero Point Energy Transfer – :-o :-o :-o

Cool !!!

8-)

Yeoshua
05-16-2005, 10:50 AM
Fortunate that he had an adaptor to fit all the electrical devices the delegates brought with them!

I stuggle to find one for my laptop, and I've got a stock cupboard full of them.

It must be a bit like Independence Day, where they wire the laptop up to the alien spaceship - really fortunate that the spaceship has an 18 pin DIN socket onboard.

The Coral Castle had it's own power source - power from quantum questionmarks.

nomad
05-16-2005, 10:53 AM
NO adapters. He used clips to connect to the

the devices.

Yeoshua
05-16-2005, 10:56 AM
So what plugged into the devices that the delegates took with them? or are you meaning that it generated some kind of EMF field that any elctronic device was in/around was charged, kind of like an aural(auric) dispersal field?

You added the clips bit just before I posted this question, but what kind of clips? a crocodile clip on the electric terminals of the devices?

What kind of devices? PDAs? Little electric motors? Mobile phones?

If they were more flambouyant devices, did he have to disassemble the electronics to attach a clip onto it?

Phi
05-16-2005, 12:08 PM
Well the majority of electronic devices in existence have some way to plug them into a wall outlet, so realistically, you'd only need one adapter for a huge multitude of devices. What is normally at the end of that proprietary plug/cable? A standard plug of course!

Can you not at least confirm where this event took place (country or state, etc?) or give more details of who the guy was? Or maybe give a hint as to how you found out about the event?

If the various agencies were bothered by him, he would have already been dissappeared, just take a look at the spate of scientist deaths in the recent years.

Also, would not publicising this as much of possible help to ensure that nothing does happen to him? I remember reading a while ago that all people who write (books) about topics that they shouldn't under false names/anonymously are the ones who dissappear. Whereas the ones who are open about who they are and what they do, in general don't, as if anything suspicious happens to them, it just benefits their cause and adds more value to what they say.

I would also just like to add that I definately believe free energy devices do exist, and in fact that there are probably more than one type of device. I'd advise interested people to read the book "The Scientist, the Madman, the Thief and Their Lightbulb". If you don't believe in free energy, that book will almost definately change your mind.

Max
05-16-2005, 01:32 PM
Nomad,

This is right up my ally of interests- I'd like to help and an interested in whatever you find out. I've done some research in this area to see that there are many claims for free energy devices but I have not seen any diagrams. Would love to- I'll check out the Zero-Point Energy links Jimbo provided- thanks.

Here's a good related link:

Where in the World is all the Free Energy?
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/freeenergy.html

nomad
05-16-2005, 03:36 PM
Quote

1. Radiant Energy
Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on "radiant energy". This natural energy form (mistakenly called "static" electricity) can be gathered directly from the environment or extracted from ordinary electricity by the method called "fractionation". Radiant energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity, at less than 1% of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, and this has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it.
The Methernitha Community in Switzerland currently has five or six working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy.

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I now KNOW !

This exactly describes what I have witnessed.

nomad
05-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Yeoshua wrote:
So what plugged into the devices that the delegates took with them? or are you meaning that it generated some kind of EMF field that any elctronic device was in/around was charged, kind of like an aural(auric) dispersal field?

participants brought in radios, alarm clocks

and a brand new electric saw bought during

the class nearby by someone who was so impressed

that he went out a buy one to see it work ... he

took it right out of the box plugged it and

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

You added the clips bit just before I posted this question, but what kind of clips? a crocodile clip on the electric terminals of the devices?

Yes

What kind of devices? PDAs? Little electric motors? Mobile phones?

mentioned above and yes little electric motors
BIG lamps et little light bulbs

If they were more flambouyant devices, did he have to disassemble the electronics to attach a clip onto it?

No

nomad
05-16-2005, 03:50 PM
Phi wrote:
Well the majority of electronic devices in existence have some way to plug them into a wall outlet, so realistically, you'd only need one adapter for a huge multitude of devices. What is normally at the end of that proprietary plug/cable? A standard plug of course!

Can you not at least confirm where this event took place (country or state, etc?) or give more details of who the guy was? Or maybe give a hint as to how you found out about the event?

I want to live long and prosper.

The inventor like to show others particularly
those who work with electricity what the possibilities really are.

I was invited by an electrician acquaintance who knew that I was fascinated by Tesla.

If the various agencies were bothered by him, he would have already been dissappeared, just take a look at the spate of scientist deaths in the recent years.

True this is why he does it the invitations
through word of mouth through friends.

Also, would not publicising this as much of possible help to ensure that nothing does happen to him? I remember reading a while ago that all people who write (books) about topics that they shouldn't under false names/anonymously are the ones who dissappear. Whereas the ones who are open about who they are and what they do, in general don't, as if anything suspicious happens to them, it just benefits their cause and adds more value to what they say.

He would be very dead if he went public because
this is the real thing.

Also, he is autistic and the presenter did mention

that he believes that organizations that are set

up to "help" people who display special talents

to see these possibilities actually are there

to identify these people and made them dead or

disappear or be "suicided"


I would also just like to add that I definately believe free energy devices do exist, and in fact that there are probably more than one type of device. I'd advise interested people to read the book "The Scientist, the Madman, the Thief and Their Lightbulb". If you don't believe in free energy, that book will almost definately change your mind.

Max
05-16-2005, 05:59 PM
I'm starting to do some more research- dug up these books that look interesting:


The Energy Machine of T. Henry Moray: Zero-Point Energy and Pulsed Plasma Physics
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931882428


The Tesla Papers: Nikola Tesla on Free Energy & Wireless Transmission of Power
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0932813860


The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767906284


Tapping the Zero Point Energy: Free Energy in Today's Physics
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931882002

nomad
05-16-2005, 06:38 PM
Focus on Tesla

2. everything tesla did, he duplicated ...

he asked a volunteer to go outside the classroom

and plug an ordinary radio attenna into the grass

and as he did (we were able to see him through

a window at laugh with him as he was doing this)

he stabbed the ground with the antenna and

boom the light bulb in the front of the classroom

went on ... he lifted the antenna out of the grass

and boom the light bulb went off.

3. Tesla had at least one car that ran using

the ether as energy ... the presenter claimed

that Mr. Electric has made

one that runs 150 KM/hour which I friend of

mine told me is extremely close to what Tesla

claimed as driving speed (I have to check if

this is true)

truebeliever
05-16-2005, 09:33 PM
Quotes Taken From Nick Cooks "The Hunt For Zero Point"

"Sooner or later, someone would succeed in developing a zero point reactor - a machine that would exploit the fluctuations in the quantum sea as they blinked in and out of existence millions of times every second. It was just a matter of time. 'We are at the stage that the fathers of the atomic bomb were at when they put together their first test reactor in the early 40's - and look what happened a few years later,' Puthoff had been quoted as saying recently."

Nick Cook is an establishment man through and through. He has to be or he would NEVER be allowed to go where he goes and speak to who he does.

He quotes big names in the defence establishment.

So he needs to be taken with caution.

I certainly want to believe however.

If "Zero Point" machines are easily possible, which they are according to the work Cook quotes in the book (Hutchinson) and your recent view NOMAD...and you could easily develop a bomb...

What a perfect excuse for a world wide police state to stop easily obtained 'bombs' getting into the wrong hands.

That science has easily gotton into the wrong hands and must be controlled.

I wonder if we're in for another scam of some sort. That they will admit zero point work soon.

Cook finishes off the book with the lesson that all this Zero Point stuff might lead to a bomb...which is not the way i'd end the book.

Also, it reads like "All The Presidents Men" which might be purely to make a rather dry subject a little more interesting.

Lets watch for more establishment work on this subject.

Jimbo
05-16-2005, 11:59 PM
Zero-Point (Free) Energy Devices – :-o :-o :-o

I concur w/ you guys here as far as utilizing each thread, & therefore keeping its topic, pure or honest to the discussion at hand. Discussing any other topic in any thread is “disrespectful” to the rest of us. If they want to drift, they should do it in their own thread. Anyhow, w/ that said, I included some interesting stuff about Tesla, not that we didn’t already know, but just to continue to expand on his accomplishments, & in an easy to find format.

Re: The Most Hated Scientist of the New World Order – Post #42
Nikola Tesla & Free-Energy Extraction
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=277&start=40

8-)

truebeliever
05-17-2005, 03:01 AM
Jimbo, just in case that was meant for me... 8-)

I quoted Cook and his establishment credentials and the fact that Zero Point is becoming generally known as an example of how they might try to steer us away from the work that NOMAD has seen.

I've just finished the 6th read (last night) and i noted how Cook ended the book NOT amazed that soon we will all have free energy and how wonderful it would be but with a warning..."better be careful of the bomb implications".

When you combine it (Cooks warning) with a autistic man making a free energy device in his apartment based on simple principals...then i could see them trying to scare the bee jeezuz out of ordinary people by trying to insinuate we might have a nuclear bomb in our backyard hooked to our house.

Do you see what i mean? I dont think it's worth starting a new thread.

On much reflection I believe Cooks book may be VERY clever disinformation. Extremely well done and subtle. Still largely correct but with a hidden right hook at the end.

That was all.

Also...on a public forum people can comment. NOMAD has seen a Free Energy Machine...people are skeptical...what can we expect?

We must also consider the possibility that the law of thermodynamics stands. Chinese scientists are alledgedly busy developing Zero Point technology. The ENTIRE Chinese State is behind it...and yet? Would China hesitate to deploy it if they had it? Does China hate the U.S or not? China has spent BILLIONS on hydro dams and is desperate for more energy. Is the U.S trying to control ALL the fuel reserves of the world? Whats the point if untold numbers of the U'S's enemy's can get the simple precepts of Zero Point going? If it's there...where is it? Japan is totally energy dependant. It's a high tech country...VERY independantly minded...where is it? Is the U.S the ONLY place where 'out of the box' people exist?

OR...there is NO NWO split and ALL tensions are BULLSHIT and the NWO is a tightly controlled program with State actors falling exactly in line with NWO plans coming out of Europe and the Elite banking houses.

ALOT hangs on the story that Free Energy is a suppressed, EASY technology, purely not in the public domain because scientists are to arrogent to look into it.

I mean no disrespect. But I need more than NEXUS articles with no references and some nice stories about a chocolate town in Switzerland running on a couple of diodes and a prayer.

I'm sick of being sucked in on this topic.

EITHER someone has IT...or they do not.

We should all tread carefully on this subject and not suppress anyones view.

Deepest respect to you and NOMAD. And thanx NOMAD for bringing it up.

I'll taint the thread no more.

nomad
05-17-2005, 05:00 AM
Truebeliever did you read and understand what

I posted ???

There is NO zero point energy " machine ".

The person who discovered how to tap into

the ether to power electrical appliances in

front of us had very little formal education

because he was locked up for 13 years in mental

institutions under pretext of his autism and

and "danger to society".

His " machines " consisted of simple wires

and coils with NO elctriconic components.

The cost to build this " machine " is about

$50.00 tops and will power your house for

ETERNITY.

Do you understand what this means ???

To everyone who followed this post I say

to you all wake up and smell the F*cking

Coffee !!!

nomad
05-17-2005, 05:13 AM
If anybody has questions on this post I will try

to answer them ... otherwise good bye to you all

its been wonderful.

:-D :-D

truebeliever
05-17-2005, 05:33 AM
Very sorry NOMAD.

Grow up you big fucking girl.

No i did'nt read it well.

BECAUSE I'M SICK OF THE FUCKING $5 F-R-A-U-D-S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JIMBO BOUGHT UP ZERO POINT.

So fuck off.

ITS A FRAUD...AS USUAL!

So people questioned you and you run likea fucking girl.

I'm sick of people complaining like little fucking sooks when they get questioned.

If you and fucking Jimbo want to kiss in the rain over the invention from thew autistic freak then do it with a fucking e-mail.

Dont come here to get your ego stroked.

DEBATE YOU BUNCH OF FUCKING GIRLS.

Thank god, goodbye.

ALL YOURS FMB.

I wont be back...and it feels good.

Rush was right.

I think i will get a life.

nomad
05-17-2005, 06:21 AM
To everyone who really wants to see something

amazing read the entire post and build a

similar "machine". There is more than enough

information here to get you going in the

right direction to freedom. Good-bye all.

Max
05-17-2005, 09:04 AM
Holy smokes?! What's going on with CC? Seems like there's something bad in the water. :-P


Who says Zero Point is a fraud? I'm not saying it exists since I have not seen it with my own eyes but I have enough reason to feel compelled to check into it. Worst case, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Best case, free energy- would be nice to get off the beast energy system and save some cash that can be used to fight the NWO.

Nomad- may I guess that TB is a bit P.O'ed that Phi burst his UFO bubble over here-
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1335&forum=13&post_id=10666

Come on TB- I'm with you on not jumping on every piece of disinfo but lets let the proof be in the putting- I'm going to reserve judgment and try and get the plans.


Anyway, Nomad, it sounds like it could be a "half-wave Tesla coil" since it is just wire. I have a dumbed-down "beast" education in electronics and physics- what they teach of quantum mechanics is a joke at best, there is so much that is not known by the mainstream.



Stay the course everyone...

Jimbo
05-17-2005, 10:05 AM
truebeliever, Not at all. That was only meant for the blurp in astrophysics, by the person that talks about the earth is not moving. For example, we were talking about a free-energy devices & he posts a blurp in Astrophysics. Yeah, granted this post might have a slight relevance, but at the time it seemed completely out of context. Not only that, his posts states,


“Electrodynamic forces in electric plasmas are much stronger than the gravitational force. Mainstream astrophysicists are continually “surprised” by new data sent back by space probes and orbiting telescopes”

which completely contradicts his idea, since as we all know, rockets are launched w/ the help of the earth rotation. And that’s it. I really don’t care to go any further than that…

I haven’t read any of the recent posts here, but from a quick glance, it looks like I caused a stir, which was, honestly, not my intent at all. I thought we were all in the same wavelength. I apologize for the confusion, but I didn’t want to make a direct attack on anyone. I hope you guys don’t take it too seriously, since we are not really solving anything here, we were just talking about a particular topic, about free-energy-devices. Now whether they are powered from man-made electro-magnetic-radiation, a zero-point source, electro-magnetic-plasma, the earth electro-magnetic-field, the sun-rays, the wind, a fart, or the ether, is not relevant. We were just trying to see, I thought, to see if we could somehow accidentally run into some simple free-energy-source we could all use. That’s all… so, I certainly hope you all come back, nomad, & continue discussing,… Let’s forget about the stir, really, let’s be friends & move on.

8-)

Max
05-17-2005, 11:01 AM
Good post Jimbo- I'm with you.

Max
05-17-2005, 12:20 PM
TB- on the "bomb" thing, I re-dug up this thread I found on usenet regarding an article in "Popular Mechanics" (a known obvious disinformation publication)- the topic is on cold fusion and is about exactly what you say:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics.fusion/browse_thread/thread/e163bfdc3e828bdb/4d3df866ee13bf94

Someone posted this: The powers that be probably realize the cat is out of the bag regarding the validity of cold fusion. It has reach a point where they can no longer prevent cold fusion research from entering the mainstream. Plan A worked for 15 years beautifully, just deny it exists, put key people in PR positions to blacklist cold fusion, don't fund it, just debase it any way possible to thrawt its development. But, Plan A isn't working any longer. So, they're attacking it via Plan B: OK, it's real and we admit it after all this time (I can't wait to hear the excuses from officialdom for why they got this hot potato wrong), but it's unsafe and we're not going to allow the average Joe to play around with it or use it in commerical applications. A perfect way to keep it from competing with the fossil fuel industry. Could be the case???

Of course the mind control shills are always quick to respond: "I think that you might want to consider changing the brand of weed you've been smoking lately."

Jimbo
05-17-2005, 01:48 PM
Hey, Where Are You? – :-o :-o :-o

Max, Great! Where is everybody, nomad, truebeliever?

<img src=http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/images/mp_group02.jpg>
Tesla's Suite At The Hotel “New Yorker” (http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/images/mp_group02.jpg)

Tesla's suite at the hotel New Yorker following his funeral on January 12, 1943. Left to right: Bogoljub Jevtic, a member of the last Royal Government of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia; Professor Boris Furlan, a Slovene active during the war in the United States, who went back to Yugoslavia where he was arrested and liquidated brutally; Sava Kosanovic, Tesla's nephew and member of the Royal Government in exile.

From:
The Missing Papers - On Nikola Tesla
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html

I think nomad was right in that Tesla was the one who first used available free-energy, to power his coil. If you look into these links,

Re: The Most Hated Scientist of the New World Order – Post #42
Nikola Tesla & Free-Energy Extraction
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=277&start=40

You’ll see that his basic Tesla Coil circuit works by harnessing “resonant energy” in his “primary coil”, via the “interrupter” circuit, which he uses to ramp up the frequency of the “primary” to match the “resonant frequency” of the “secondary coil” circuit. Then once this “resonant frequency” is achieved, all he has to do is keep pulsating the “primary coil” just at the right time, to “reinforce the oscillation of the “secondary” at “just that right moment” at the “end of a cycle.” In this resonant condition the oscillations can be made to swing up to tremendous values”. Sounds simple, doesn't it?

Tesla Coil
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/7743/tesla/tesla_coil.html

8-)

nomad
05-17-2005, 03:56 PM
Guys thanks for the support. Listen, I and 3

other electricians I know personally witnessed

what I have described above and could not explain.

Seeing this type of free energy device with my

OWN eyes and manipulating the devices in my OWN

hands (turning the motors, light bulbs etc on and

off) you can not help but be completely

bamboozled.

Realizing that for less than $50.00 worth of

basically wires you can power a house for

ETERNITY you have understand that any other

topic is now useless for me to discuss. So I will

from now on only participate in posts related

to how one pulls power from the ether

using wires and coils.

this
05-17-2005, 04:13 PM
Hey Nomad, it's certainly interesting to say the least. However us humans getting along is still the biggest mystery of all.

There was/is an inventor in Canada who invented a machine to look through walls. It gives off dangerous energy and the French gov't invested in his work. He saw the design in all complexity in his head/ or a dream etc. He has no formal scientific training either. He previously invented a fire resistant paste using several ingredients, one of which was Diet Coke.

I think the biggest thing with this story is that the autistic, and otherwise simple fellow discovered the energy. Who knows however what effect extracting such energy has on the universe? Is not planet Earth with humans on it already a beautiful (at times) situation? Do we absolutely need free energy to fulfill our existence? Try not to get blinded "by the science". Don't trade your soul for understanding it, in other words.

nomad
05-17-2005, 04:23 PM
I agree all is good however wouldn't your

life be better not needless paying for heating,

electricity, gaz, batteries etc etc ?

If the world took that money and energy in terms

of man hours elsewhere we would be far better

off. The NWO would certainly be weakened but

not completely out of their game I agree.

Jimbo
05-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Free-Energy ??? :-o :-o :-o

I hear you nomad, I hear ya',... & I'm there brother ! I believe, & now I'm certain that Tesla had it. The fact that there are zero-point-energy harnessing devices' patents proves, to anyone who doesn't understand, the fact that it can be done. It is being done. You saw it, & I've heard also stories from retired ex-airforce guys about super efficient gasoline engines 40 or more years ago. So, there. But who's got a patent on "nature", but God.

8-)

nomad
05-17-2005, 04:27 PM
Jimbo thinking Tesla had it like I did and seeing

and touching a f*cking (excuse the foul language)

device doing it is not the same experience.

To think it only costs a few bucks and made of

simple wires is too much for my brain to handle.

Max
05-17-2005, 04:47 PM
Great to see you'll stick around Nomad- I hope to help you on this.

nomad
05-17-2005, 05:53 PM
Max wrote:
Great to see you'll stick around Nomad- I hope to help you on this.


good to hear Max ! ... I DO have the schematics

for the first device Mr. Electric demonstated

It's EXTREMELY simple, however it only

demonstrates sending electricity wirelessly very

short distances. He started with simple

demonstrations and went to more mindboggling

ones ... the last 2 devices I won't even

talk about it ! ... if folks have a hard time

believing that free energy is as free as the air

you breath, the last 2 devices demonstrated

things not even Tesla has claimed to be able

to do !

nomad
05-17-2005, 07:33 PM
The presenter at the conference mentioned

that he believed government agencies sought

out to make some very gifted kids with

autism etc "disappear" ... I did a search and

found this piece of info ... can anybody

elaborate on what this means ?

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Some autistic people are bothered by visual distractions and fluorescent lights. They can see the flicker of the 60-cycle electricity. To avoid this problem, place the child's desk near the window or try to avoid using fluorescent lights. If the lights cannot be avoided, use the newest bulbs you can get. New bulbs flicker less. The flickering of fluorescent lights can also be reduced by putting a lamp with an old fashioned incandescent light bulb next to the child's desk.
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Jimbo
05-17-2005, 09:01 PM
Fluorescent Lights Flicker ??? :-o :-o :-o

If you turn the light switch in any room, ON & then OFF in 1 second ( ½ second ON & the other ½ second OFF, as in an even cycle) that translates into 1 cycle per second, or

1 cycle / second = 1 Hertz

By the way the ON part & the OFF part of the cycle don’t have to be even, meaning it could be let’s say 100 milliseconds ON, & 900 milliseconds OFF. That’s the same as 100/1000 seconds ON, & 900/1000 seconds OFF. Ok, this is just how the math works.

Now, the fact that this kid notices the 60 Hz (Hertz) ”flicker”, means that his brain is running so fast that he can actually notice when the AC (alternating current), that is “exiting” this light-bulb, is for that part of the cycle that is OFF, or exactly at “0 Volts rms”, & thus the lights are, for just a fraction of a second, OFF. However, because we are saying that we have 60 cycles per second, we actually have the lights go OFF 60 times in 1 second, which is a lot of ON/OFF cycles for most of us to notice. But like I said, this kid is responsive or aroused, by this ”flicker”. In reality because the AC current is a ”sine wave”, this zero (0) point occurs 2 times in the ”sine wave”, 1 time at 0 “degress”, & another time at 180 “degress” (1 full cycle for a “sine wave” being 360 “degrees”). So instead of 60 OFF times in 1 second, we can say for all practical purposes, that at 60Hz the light goes OFF 120 times in 1 second. The total duration of this OFF time in 1 second, we could approximate it to be 2/360 = 0.0055555 seconds, or 5.55 milliseconds, but ½ of that for each individual OFF time w/in the second, or for 2.77 milliseconds, every time the light goes momentarily OFF. If you don’t know what a ”sine wave” looks like, look in any pre-algebra, trigonometry, or calculus, or physics book, & look for a “sine wave”.

Now the other part of this is the fact that they have done experiments in which it has been shown that some people, & I’m pretty sure there is at least a certain percentage of the population of people, for which their brains respond negatively to ”flicker”, & sometimes they either have epileptic attacks, &/or they have convulsions ( http://www.hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?define=convulsion ). Some times it happens to kids, of any age, when they are watching TV. They have some epileptic attack & then the parents have to seek for some medical help. However, the problem was introduced by the TV, which when displaying horizontal “traces” on the screen, causes the same effect, as what is called ”flicker”, however, like I said, most of us do not notice & are not negatively affected by this phenomenon.

In addition to these experiments, they have done the same type of thing, but now the scenario changes & the experiment involves, questioning a suspect in a dark room, w/ 1 light bulb for many hours, up to the point of mental & physical exhaustion. Now when the suspect is under “stress”, then they add flickering lights, & the whole thing changes. So, making a long story short, they have experimented w/ ”flicker”, or ”blinking” lights, & the effects they have on “stressed out” suspects, as when they do when they “torture” people.

Now, you may wonder why police cars have ”blinking” lights…

8-)

Phi
05-17-2005, 09:29 PM
I vaguely remember reading a long time ago that it wasn't possible to see lights flicker due to the fact that modern electricity systems were 3-phase and not single phase.

If you don't understand what I mean by this, look at the graph:

http://www.tpub.com/content/doe/h1011v3/img/h1011v3_84_2.jpg

Essentially you have three 50/60Hz (depending on country) waves running out of sync from each other, meaning the power never actually drops beyond a certain point, i.e. the light is never actually off.

I could of course have totally misunderstood the theory and what that graph means (totally possible, i'm not an electrician, so please correct me if i'm wrong).

I would have thought this would have effected a lot of people if possible. For instance set a computer monitor to 60Hz and turn your head so you can see the picture out the very corner of your eye (this part of the eye is more sensitive to this phenomena apparently) and you can see the monitor flickering. If standard room lights were the same I think a lot of people would be getting headaches.

Jimbo
05-17-2005, 10:32 PM
3-Phase Distribution – :-o :-o :-o

<img src=http://www.tpub.com/content/doe/h1011v3/img/h1011v3_84_2.jpg>
3-Phase (http://www.tpub.com/content/doe/h1011v3/img/h1011v3_84_2.jpg)

They use the 3-phase configuration as a distribution mechanism, meaning the “power grid” that carries the high-voltage power around the country, to streets, & to your neighborhood, is a 3-phase distribution system. Look at the power poles down the street & you’ll see 3-cables. Between any 2 of these cables there is a sine-wave, so there is a total of 3 sine waves, & thus a 3-phase distribution. The reason being is for the efficiency of sharing the “medium” (cables) & therefore carrying more power w/ less cable. The higher voltage also reduces the amount of current required to distribute the same amount of power, since P=VI, if you increase the voltage, you can transfer the same amount of power w/ less current. It’s just math. However, once they create a branch off the grid into your home via a step down transformer, to convert the high-voltage coming from the grid to a lower voltage required by the home, then you only have 2 wires & 1-phase or sine wave. If you want to prove this all you need to do is connect an oscilloscope to an AC receptacle in your house & look at the wave form it displays on the scope. It should look like a sine wave coming from 0 (zero) to a peak of approximately 124V rms times the square root of 2 = 175.36 V_peak. You can measure the AC voltage w/ a muli-meter & it should read around somewhere around 120. Mine read 124, which means that, that is the r.m.s voltage or the (root mean square) voltage, which is approximately the average effective voltage level of that sine wave. So to get the peak voltage you need to multiply times the square root of 2. That’s just the math of a sine wave. They explain that in any electronics-1 class.

Now if you go into the site where that picture came from, & do a search for 3-phase, they show that some ships have 3-phase wiring, but all of the wires are “hot”, where as in a standard home, 2 wires carry 1 sine wave, & the 3rd wire is just the “earth ground” or “chassis ground”, which is literally connected to either the “ground or a pipe” stuck on the ground (which is just a protection mechanism so that current can flow to the ground if someone accidentally causes a “short circuit” between a “hot” wire & either the chassis of an electronic equipment, appliance, or any metal parts of a home or dwelling. 3-phase systems are more “efficient” as far as transporting power, just as it is in the case of power grids, however, most homes are single phase.

As far as the flicker-less bulbs, it’s possible to suppress that 0 (zero) point voltage w/ a couple of diodes, such that the voltage never goes negative & stays on the upper or positive side of the cycle, or perhaps w/ a capacitor circuit that discharges whenever the sine wave is making the zero cross transition, so that the light never goes out. However, due to the extra cost, & other issues, such as power factor, I doubt anyone would bother. I could be wrong. I don’t keep up w/ the electric power field.

8-)

nomad
05-18-2005, 04:28 AM
Jimbo thanks for your posts ! The presenter

mentioned that NASA has investigated Mr. Electric

and they said there are a few people like him

in the world with this gift and that according

to NASA Mr. Electric was the most gifted one they

have seen ...

so then Mr. Electric's ability to discover these

things seems to be due to him being a freak of

nature. Hummm, This may explain partly why the US

government wanted to make a law whereby all

kids would be subjected to mental screening.

It would allow them to identify the ones that

would be a danger to the energy paradymn while

at the same time boosting the medical mafia

sales of drugs.

nomad
05-18-2005, 05:04 AM
Ok let's play the devil's advocate and try to

explain how 80+- people including at least

30 people that were electricians even

college and university teachers in the science

field were fooled into believing how a bunch of

wires and coils can extract power from the

ether to power such things as a 120 volt electric

saw.


Explanation 1:

Mr. Electric was really sucking the excess power

from unplugged electrical outlets. This would

explain why he never went fully public nor

gave out plans because he is in effect stealing

electricity from the existing power grid.


Anybody else have possible rational explanations

for Mr. Electric's free energy device ?

Jimbo
05-18-2005, 08:55 AM
[b]Free-Energy Devices ??? –[b] :-o :-o :-o

I agree w/ you. It’s either true, which there is no reason why it can’t, or it is a complete fabrication (bull-shit). By the way, I think that all words have a purpose, & it never bothers me when anyone uses them, except of course, those who use them so much, the words loose their effectiveness, not to mention the person looses the credibility of everyone around them.

The other thing is that, I would assume that if, as you had mentioned, there were some technicians & electricians there, I am sure they have seen devices that can clamp around (without touching) a power cable, & by the use of an inductive coil (built-in in the clamp itself) it can suck power directly out of the electro-magnetic field around the wire. Most power technicians have a similar unit, but it is designed to make measurements, of voltage, phase, etc.. So if they suspected for that to be the case, then I’m certain they would have mentioned it. So I wouldn’t rule this out yet, as fake or fraud.

Another thing is that, I might have jumped into the “ether” thing right off the bat, & because of the excitement of the news you brought, but in reality the “ether” is located at the end of matter, at the atomic level, & some people describe it as a cross-dimensional vortex into the “ether” & that is where all energy & thus matter emanates from. Our reality & everything in our world, including the sun, the moon, & the stars, & including the energy we can not see w/ our eyes, emanate from the ether. I can point out some links later in another post. However, some of these devices we are talking about here, like the patent I posted, (just read the very beginning of the patent) get energy by tuning-in (just like a radio) into a band in the high-frequency range of the spectrum, then w/ some tricks of physics & electricity they produce a lower beat-frequency component, which is easier to process, & then inject it into a circuit from which a current can be extracted. In other words, it’s like sucking energy right out of all the man-made electro-magnetic radiation that is already all around us. So the ether might not be the appropriate term in this case, & anyone who reads this stuff might automatically assume, that we are indeed pulling this stuff right our of our asses. Perhaps more appropriately, the term used in the patent is, “incident zero point electromagnetic radiation.” However, if you want to continue using the term, go ahead. I know what you are referring to. I'm not correcting you, I am just making that point clear.

Hey, not to change the subject, but I saw the movie “Downfall” http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808642134 , where it covers the last days of Hitler. Even though I admit, it is the darkest movie I’ve ever seen, I recommend anyone who believes in Freedom, to see this movie. Perhaps after seeing it, it should completely change our minds about the good old phrase, “follow the leader.” I am not kidding. You have to be not only insane, but you must not have any self respect, care for your fellow citizens & siblings, yourself, God, or anyone for that matter. Those people were in a literal Hell, only the most evilest beings could ever be proud of. However, the parallels are mind boggling. If you ever saw the movie “Shindler’s List” (1993) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052 , I think this one not only complements the saga, but it’s a revelation, evil does exist & it hasn’t died yet.

Concentration camps in USA? – Post #5, #6
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=922&forum=25

8-)

nomad
05-18-2005, 10:09 AM
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The other thing is that, I would assume that if, as you had mentioned, there were some technicians & electricians there, I am sure they have seen devices that can clamp around (without touching) a power cable, & by the use of an inductive coil (built-in in the clamp itself) it can suck power directly out of the electro-magnetic field around the wire. Most power technicians have a similar unit, but it is designed to make measurements, of voltage, phase, etc.. So if they suspected for that to be the case, then I’m certain they would have mentioned it. So I wouldn’t rule this out yet, as fake or fraud.
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Mr. Electric could not have chosen a worse

audience to try to trick. The room was

filled by people working in the electricty field.

This conference was organized by Professor

of Electrical Engineering and he was baffled

as well. Also, he has been doing these small

extremely informal conferences for over 10 years.

After the demonstration 20 of us went out to

dinner with him and continued to ask questions.

Sucking power out of the unplugged outlets

I have been told by a few electricians would

not explain the amount of juice is was able

to extract. Also, it has been mentioned that

during a long blackout he was the ONLY one

in his small apartment to have power !

Max
05-18-2005, 01:05 PM
I will concur with Jimbos posts on power distribution.

Another way to achieve a "flickerless light" is to use low DC voltage lighting often used on track lights and sometimes used in recessed lights and task lights. Typically they use 12V DC.

Somewhat related, some people still like analog music sources (tapes, albums) since digital (CDs, etc) also basically have sampling frequency that some peoples ears can pick up.


The use of resonant frequencies in the coil doesn't surprise me as it is a very powerful concept. Some may remember that it was due to resonant frequency that caused that bridge to wave in the wind and collapse. http://www.singingbridges.net/bridges/index.html

nomad
05-18-2005, 02:25 PM
Max wrote:
I will concur with Jimbos posts on power distribution.

Another way to achieve a "flickerless light" is to use low DC voltage lighting often used on track lights and sometimes used in recessed lights and task lights. Typically they use 12V DC.

Somewhat related, some people still like analog music sources (tapes, albums) since digital (CDs, etc) also basically have sampling frequency that some peoples ears can pick up.


The use of resonant frequencies in the coil doesn't surprise me as it is a very powerful concept. Some may remember that it was due to resonant frequency that caused that bridge to wave in the wind and collapse. http://www.singingbridges.net/bridges/index.html


Absolutely Max ... this is one reason Tesla

was obsessed by resonance ... and Royal Rife's

machine to cure all diseases is based on resonace.

Jimbo
05-18-2005, 03:15 PM
Free-Energy Devices – :-o :-o :-o

I would concentrate, let’s say, on the simplest design of all, even if it is the smallest. Now the fact that the E.E. Professor can’t figure it out tells me, he is either not sharing his thoughts w/ the rest of you, or he is definitely perplexed, which is hard to swallow. I would expect more, an opinion, a simple theory,… something. How about the kid, has he explained, to any depth, how he sees this device operate?

Another thing is the fact that remember, by keeping a lid on this, in the end no one benefits. If anything happens to the kid, & the devices disappear, that’s the end of that,… what you saw is forever gone.

A picture is worth a thousand words…

8-)

nomad
05-18-2005, 04:46 PM
Jimbo I sent you his first device that

demonstrated sending wireless electricity

to very short distances. I will try to

replicate this myself to start. Since

there is another conference coming, I will

try to make the 6 hour trek to get there

and take more notes and more designs of

the more "complex" designs. They are all simple

just more wires and more coils.

BTW I spoke to an electrician that saw

the wiz kid years ago and someone asked

if his device would work underwater ... he

submerged the no battery device in a sink

filled with water and the light bulb

was still on ... not sure how important this is.

About the electrical engineering professor

I can ASSURE you that he was completely bamboozled

and he has seen his demonstrations many times

:-o :-o :-o

Jimbo
05-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Free-Energy Devices - :-o :-o :-o

Cool !!!

8-)

05-18-2005, 07:19 PM
THE "WIZ KID"

I'm going out on a limb here, but I feel that I must.

Because I am a mind control survivor, there are many times that certain words/phrases seem to "strike a chord" with me; resonate; repeat as if they are triggering a memory from my past and that has happened several times while reading ALL of the posts on this thread. In particular, the "Wiz Kid."

RECALL....

They called him the "Wiz Kid" is what I am hearing and LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. The same thing is going to happen to you if you don't keep your big mouth shut!!

As far as the "WIZ KID," I understand that he was institutionalized from what NOMAD has stated due to the fact that he was a "danger to society" and/or himself and I'm wondering under what circumstances he was institutionalized, where and for how long.

I don't know if I was institutionalized. My memory tells me that I was and it was for similar reasons. "Danger to myself and society." However, they PROGRAMMED me to do something before I was institutionalized so THEY could affix that label to me.

The conversation about epileptic seizures, convulsions, flickering and blinking lights have answered some questions for me regarding mind control experimentation that was inflicted upon me using lights, etc. to affect these conditions in their victims.

I would assume this would be a way to silence, neutralize and contain those with INTELLIGENCE through "disorders/conditions" or those who threaten their power and, in addition, of course, causing "paranoia" and/or parnoid schizophrenia in these persons while institutionalized so that when they are released (if they are released) they don't go PUBLIC with information and/or use their REAL names for fear of being KILLED!!

Was the "Wiz Kid" born autistic or was he frightened into silence? How long was he institutionalized? Under what cirucmstances was he released and who cares for him now?

I guess it would BEHOOVE them to screen for "gifted" and talented children in school so they can then track them for the rest of their lives. Scholarships, etc. and then they have their ways of getting and keeping them under their wings!!

OPERATIVE(s) is the OPERATIVE word.

As far as listening in on private citizens in their home. Well, I know my home is bugged, but, if I told you that, you'd think I was paranoid if you don't already.

This story fascinates me and FREE ENERGY fascinates me as well.

In fact, I was having a conversation with someone about it today before I read through this thread.

InPeace,
BlueAngel

Jimbo
05-18-2005, 08:49 PM
Mind Programming ??? :-o :-o :-o

You don’t have to answer, but what I would be asking myself is, Why me? What is it that you have, they want? What do you think they were trying to program you to do? Or what memories where they trying to erase from your mind? Did you see the movie “The Manchurian Candidate?” ( http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808471891&cf=info ), if you didn’t, you might want to rent the DVD. It’s definitely about programming, erasing memories, etc. It might definitely help, although it might be disturbing to see. I think that in order to heal the psyche, you have to always be honest with yourself. That’s a start…

8-)

nomad
05-19-2005, 04:36 AM
Blue Angel Mr. Electric was born autistic ...

he built his first device at about 12-15 years

of age. There was alot of information given

during the 4 hour demontration and I don't

remember alot of details of what I saw. They

did discuss how it came to be that he was

forced into a mental institution for about

about 13 years. There he was subjected to numerous

painful shock therapy sessions and had electrodes

put on his temples numerous times. He was put

in there shortly after he innocently sent in a

device that showed a bulb working without

batteries to the utility company. He mentioned

being brought in front of a court and

was "sentenced" after that to an institution in

order to " protect society ". I will ask the

other people who went for the details if they

remember them. The session was extremely

informal and casual. As mentioned 20 of us went

to have dinner with him after the event.

They revealed his full name. His demonstration

was so incredible that one person

asked if he was an alien. The response was

no because we know his parents and they are normal

people.

nomad
05-19-2005, 06:23 AM
Superconducters !

Anybody know about charging wires to contain

electric power ? Another electrician suggested he

powered up the coils themselves to act like

a battery ! Anybody know anything about this ???

Jimbo
05-19-2005, 09:56 AM
Free-Energy Devices – :-o :-o :-o

nomad, all wires exhibit the ability to create a magnetic field around the wire when current is flowing through it, in particular when exited w/ an AC voltage. You can think of a “coil” as a more powerful extension of the “wire” concept, one that concentrates & amplifies the strength of this current induced field, & into a magnetic field. So when an RL (of resistance & inductance) circuit gets connected to a DC source (i.e., a battery), it instantaneously creates a magnetic field around it which is going to collapse or decay over time, depending on the values of R & L selected. If the source is AC, then this magnetic field is going to remain there, & it’s going to also alternate. However, some of the energy (or power) going into the circuit from the AC receptacle is going remain in the magnetic-field, & some is going to be released as heat. The mathematics of these circuits are not obvious, & as you change values or R, & L, (i.e., resistance & inductance - for a resistor or light-bulb & coil or transformer) each circuit is going to behave differently. You can assume that a coil being exited w/ an AC voltage is going to have a magnetic field around it. However, the power contained in the circuit is all going to be “expensed” or “consumed”. The light bulb is going to generate both light & heat, a plane resistor is going to get hot & its purpose is to resist current flow & to generate a voltage “drop” across it, & the coils are going to concentrate a magnetic-field around themselves. However, when the "AC source" goes out, so does everything else,…

We could talk about this stuff for ever, but unfortunately, besides the fact that there are thousands of books written on the matter, we all think in the way we already understand these concepts. Unless provided w/ either a picture or an exact circuit description, &/or a wiring diagram w/ all component values, we are just going to be guessing what’s really going on. Wireless transmitters, & inductive circuits (coil circuits) are already a common place in our world. What we were looking for was a device that does not need any batteries – self powered. That’s the one you should take a picture off,… I know you can’t, but look, look really hard & take a picture w/ your mind.

“Superconductors” are a complete different animal.

8-)

Max
05-19-2005, 10:24 AM
So I wrote up a response and had to step away for a bit and Jimbo beat me to the punch. Anyway here it is:

Nomad- you might need to be a bit more specific on this question. Still, per common-man physics teachings it is possible to charge anything with extra "power" by building up "static electricity" which is said to be just a build up of extra electrons. These extra electron built up must be "insulated" from other materials else, the electrons will flow to that area and you lose your "power". The idea is to wait until you want to power something and connect it to that and have the electrons flow-- this is what power is and is similar to a battery. As mentioned- our understanding of static electricity is potentially way off however.


When wire is coiled up and has current running threw it it results in an interesting phenomena known as inductance- where a magnetic field is produced inside the coil like this:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/sol3.gif


This is actually how transformers work- with a concept of mutual inductance. In a transformer a magnetic field is generated in one coil from a current which produces a magnetic field- that magnetic field is then transformed into another coil which actually causes a current to be produced in the second wire. The number of wraps of wire of the two coils will effect the characteristics of the transformer. Say one coil has two times the number of wraps then there will be a 2x voltage factor between the two coils. So this is how there can be a drop of say 1,200 volts to 120 volts. That would be a 10x transformer. What's interesting is in the transformer there is a break in the wire- the two sides are not electrically connected at all- they are only connected by the magnetic field- here is a good pic, notice the different number of coil wraps:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/tracir.gif


This is why they call it electro-magnetic since the two forces are interconnected of which are all bound by Maxwell's Equations:

http://www.physics.hmc.edu/courses/Ph51/maxwell.gif


This is the foundation principles of electromagnetic waves such as TV and radio signals, visible light, infrared, x-rays, etc:

http://praxis.pha.jhu.edu/pictures/emspec.gif


Superconductivity is another beast- basically a phenomena where a material has no electrical resistance to the flow of electrons. Normal wire heats up when you run power threw it because the lattice structure of the atoms in the wire are arranged in such a manner that the electrons following across them will have resistance against their flow and can "bounce back" some thus causing a loss of energy (and producing heat). In a superconductor the atoms are more structured (I believe, typically in more of a crystal form) and can hit a point where they have no measurable resistance at low temperatures. The problem is that the materials known to "modern science" all require some form of super cooling to achieve superconductivity and the materials are very brittle.

Here's an example of a resistance curve at low temperatures (0K is absolute 0- nothing can be "colder" since nothing moves at 0K).

http://www.jaeri.go.jp/english/press/980624/gif/ko03.gif


The Meissner Effect is one of the interesting phenomena of superconductivity:

http://www.egglescliffe.org.uk/physics/supercond/meiss.JPG

I've seen it with my own eyes.

Max
05-19-2005, 10:33 AM
Jimbo- I agree with you that this is obviously all well know but not everyone here has the same background so helping to fill in some blanks for others won't hurt.

I've always been fascinated with these topics and phenomena and can see how there may be more here than meets the eye. This Nexus article http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/freeenergy.html has an interesting quote: "The common feature connecting all of these discoveries is that they use a small amount of one form of energy to control or release a large amount of a different kind of energy."

Applying various principles of resonant frequency, inductance & other electro-magnetic and superconductivity I can see how it may be possible for some seed energy to be magnified. Obviously I have no idea how at this point but the foundation looks solid for an investment of time considering the claims involved.

Jimbo
05-19-2005, 11:57 AM
Free-Energy Devices – :-o :-o :-o

Max, I agree & I think we are trying to help as much as possible. However, I am suggesting to focus on the free-energy device. Transmitters, although a mystery to most people, do exist, & “most” are not trivial to design, except for perhaps some for the most basic applications. They only become trivial to those who have taken the time to analyze & design a few on their own. There are hundreds of transmitter circuits for many applications, & each one is designed for a particular frequency of operation, or frequency range. For example, the remote control of your TV, a wireless microphone, wireless electric guitar transmitter, AM radio, FM radio, digital satellite transmission, cell-phones, amateur radios, etc.,… & the list goes on.

Yes, the basic concepts do always apply, but realistically, in order for anyone to design a transmitter & explain its operation, you’d better know at least some electronics’ circuit theory. The second you start adding coils & capacitances, to a circuit composed of just batteries & resistors, the whole thing gets beyond the ability of most people w/o knowledge mathematics all the way up to at least a minimum of, pre-calculus. Otherwise you are just playing w/ the components. You have to understand complex numbers, exponents, exponential curves, derivatives, & integrals, in order to just analyze the response of a basic circuit. The analysis is not trivial, & now a days w/o the help of circuit analysis software, you can’t get too far.

Now, if you are just talking about 60 Hz power, then a technician w/ enough field experience could perhaps build certain circuits & systems composed of cables, voltage sources, motors, transformers, & power lines, w/o needing to solve complex equations, but that’s just because he/her is just putting together a circuit which was already thought of & designed by an engineer, & often times, since like I said, we are talking about 60 Hz power circuits, a lot of the system components begin to repeat themselves. However, that is not the proper way to go about designing electronic equipment & systems. In addition, everything involved in the whole gamut of power distribution systems is by no means trivial in any way shape or form.

Everyone should read the bottom of the article you posted,

Where In The World Is All The Free Energy?
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/freeenergy.html

& start by reading the last section “THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A JUST SOCIETY”.

8-)

nomad
05-19-2005, 03:27 PM
Thanks Guys I appreciate all the input ... I will

follow what the presenter said to duplicate

Mr. Electric's feat you have to think like a

CHILD ... the wires and coils I saw were

extremely simple ... Mr.Electric says that

what the known world is taught about electricity

does NOT represent REALITY. For him volts, amperes

resistance etc are NOT part of his vocabulary.

When people asked technical questions the answer

was always " those are just words and don't mean

anything "

Interestingly he also claims that he can not

explain how it works and knows only that it does.

I will try to get more details on the first device

by compiling notes from the others. If

we can achieve the results of the first device

we will be on our way.

05-19-2005, 03:56 PM
"In order to heal you must first be honest with yourself."

OKAY, JIMBO, are you suggesting I'm lying to myself?

WHY ME?

Of course, I've asked myself that a zillion times, but haven't received an answer yet!

It's been almost four years since "awakening" and it's to the point where I don't know and I don't care WHY ME!!

Trying to solve a mystery from the past is a waste of precious time in present.

Erasing memories was their speciality with mind control victims.

I've seen the Manchurian Candidate.

Jimbo
05-19-2005, 04:10 PM
Mind Control Triggers - :-o :-o :-o

BlueAngel, I am not passing judgement by any means. The thing about honesty was just a general statement I made that applies to all of us, including myself. I just mentioned that because there are people that purposely lie to themselves to change the "reality" they lived, & this way they can burry their own memories. I am also not implying that your are doing that. I am just making some general statements. I am not sure what your want. Are you just voicing your experience outload, & not asking for any feedback? Or, were you looking for any answers?

Take care.

8-)

05-19-2005, 09:44 PM
Jimbo wrote:
Mind Control Triggers - :-o :-o :-o

BlueAngel, I am not passing judgement by any means. The thing about honesty was just a general statement I made that applies to all of us, including myself. I just mentioned that because there are people that purposely lie to themselves to change the "reality" they lived, & this way they can burry their own memories. I am also not implying that your are doing that. I am just making some general statements. I am not sure what your want. Are you just voicing your experience outload, & not asking for any feedback? Or, were you looking for any answers?

Take care.

8-)


I'm here, JIMBO, alive, walking this planet, a survivor of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and for that I am THANKFUL!!!

Mind Control is a SUBJECT of great concern to me because it involves more than just "programming" a slave for some future mission.

When one thinks of mind control they usually equate it to a Manchurian Candidate. That does not even cover the spectrum of what is involved in their programs; particuarly Project Monarch, which is trauma-based.

I know that government conspiracies are real. I know that our government is corrupt. Both parties. So, if that was their goal for my future, I have no allegiance to either.

I have allegiance to my country. The America that should be!

Maybe people do lie to themselves to mask the reality that they lived, but as far as mind control victims are concerned most times the reality that they lived is so horrific that blocking it was the only way they survived.

THEY DO NOT REMEMBER and, therefore, are not lying to themselves or anyone else. They can have dozens of alters. Psychological warfare ensues.

Coupled with hypnosis, electricshock, drugs, sleep, water, food, sensory deprivation, etc., etc., etc., false memories implanted doesn't really allow all of the REAL memories and the entire picture to evolve once a victim/survivor is triggered into remembering their past abuse and incarceration in one of these programs.

Trauma too horrible for the mind to endure is FORGOTTEN. Compartmentalized. This, the only way for mind control victims to survive the abuse. The brain's self-defense.

I was replying to NOMAD about the "Whiz Kid" and just making some general remarks as to memories I have as a child that seemed to parallel his experience. I was interested in his story and the fact that he was institutionalized because he was a threat to THEM and not himself.

I'd ultimately LOVE to interview him.

JIMBO, I'm 48 years old...soon to be 49. I only uncovered this past life of mine about four years ago.

That, my friend, is the essence and depth of mind control. The victim is unaware for decades that they were sujected to such vicious manipulation, control and abuse.

When the memories surface, the question remains for those who are alive and were not killed or snuffed out in porn films. WHY?

I admire Henry's work. And, by the way, I say "Oh, Henry," like the candy bar.

I know that there are many more like him who have been working behind the scenes for decades to uncover this CULT.

I am open to feedback and any answers you may have are certainly welcome!!

InPeace,
BlueAngel

05-19-2005, 10:20 PM
Please pardon me for going off topic here on the FREE ENERGY thread!!

I won't let it happen again!!

05-19-2005, 10:24 PM
Oh, off topic again.

Jimbo,

Mind control victims don't purposely LIE to themselves to BURY their past.

Their past is buried by their abusers through hypnosis, etc. and their brain blocks it out in order to SURVIVE the abuse.

Please show your credentials at the door!

Thank you!!

05-19-2005, 10:59 PM
Jimbo,

"Voicing your experience "outload."

What????

"People purposely lie to themselves."

What???

Yes, Jimbo, I'm a mind control victim/survivor of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and I know more about how our "corrupt" government and "rogue" CIA operates than you ever will.

It's not all about FREE ENERGY!!!

Jimbo
05-19-2005, 11:40 PM
Mind Control Programming - MKULTRA :-o :-o :-o


BlueAngel Wrote:

Jimbo,

"Voicing your experience "outloud."

What????

"People purposely lie to themselves."

What???

Yes, Jimbo, I'm a mind control victim/survivor of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and I know more about how our "corrupt" government and "rogue" CIA operates than you ever will.

It's not all about FREE ENERGY!!!

No disagreement there...

Mind Control Programming - MKULTRA
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1360&forum=14

8-)

nomad
05-20-2005, 05:03 AM
Blue Angel we are ALL mind control victims to

varying degrees ... the fact that Free Energy

isn't available to the masses is one proof of

it ... and makes their control over us

all the greater. The presenter has repeatedy said

that the MORE "education" you have the MORE you

will not be able to duplicate what Mr. Electric

does and the MORE baffled you will be.

Interesting, how this matches the following

words of 2000 years ago.


"I tell you the truth, anyone who will not

receive the kingdom of God like a little child

will NEVER enter it."

nomad
05-21-2005, 03:10 PM
Max, Jimbo anybody with a science mind ...

Is it possible that all the cell phone towers

and Satelite TV signals and radio signals

etc are also sending out electricity ??? ...

and that Mr. Electric is unknownlingly tapping

into this unprecendent occurence in the history

of man with the ever growing onslaught of

signals ???

Jimbo
05-22-2005, 12:44 AM
Sources Of Free-Energy – :-o :-o :-o

nomad, I mentioned in a previous post about that, & I called it, “man-made electromagnetic radiation”. That includes all the ones you mentioned. Modern technology is well aware of these & all sources. I believe the “zero-point-energy” space is way above our spectrum of frequencies. The problem w/ extracting energy from our own man-made transmissions, as for example, sucking FM radio waves, is that, knowingly tapping into broadcast radio emissions, for the purpose of extracting “free-energy”, I would assume that, would certainly be in violation of some FFC rules. Therefore, I would assume for it to be illegal to extract energy from that medium. That would be comparable to tapping into your local water-utilities reservoir, so that you don’t have to pay them a water bill. Not exactly, but you get the picture. If that’s where the wiz-kid is piercing into, it is probably not a good idea…

8-)

nomad
05-22-2005, 10:03 AM
If this is what he unknownlingly is doing then

the instructments of control over us ie the cell

phones (tracking), satelitte TV and

radio (brainwashing), and the electric grid

(economic slavery) are ALSO the instruments for

our freedom at the same time. Fascinating

possibility Jimbo and makes more and more sense

why Tesla wanted to build Wardencliffe as a

global radio signal broadcasting and global

energy broadcasting plant in one. Both radio and

AC electricity are essentially very close to each

other in nature.

Jimbo how do you explain the plain old compass ??

Isn't this a sign of the possibility of free

energy ? Afterall, the needle on a compass moves

on a type of "free energy". No ?

nomad
05-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Hummm ... the fact that Tesla and others were

reported to have come up with a car running

on "radiant" energy may then be really due to

them having pulled this energy from existing

facilities ie the power line grid, the radio

towers etc ... so this may be the reason why

Tesla did not go public with this information as

flamboyant as he was because he would be

essentially showing people how to hack his own

creation !

Jimbo
05-22-2005, 12:27 PM
Free-Energy Is All Around Us – :-o :-o :-o

Interesting observation there nomad. Yes, both the power’s & the radio channel-carrier’s are all sine waves. What separates one from the other, is basically each having its own “frequency” (of resonance – in this case, the “natural frequency” at which they oscillate). Power here in America, being a 60Hz wave & the AM radio band starts somewhere around 500-1600Khz (Kilo Hertz), while FM is in the 75-110 MHz range.

Tesla also demonstrated that the actual “earth” can be used as an electrical “ground plane” when transmitting wire-less power, since the entire “earth’s system” is electro-magnetic in nature, the “earth” being the perfect “ground”.

<img src=http://praxis.pha.jhu.edu/pictures/emspec.gif>
Spectrum Of Energy (http://praxis.pha.jhu.edu/pictures/emspec.gif)

The magnetic needle moves, because it’s own internal magnetic alignment of its atoms has the same orientation as that of the lines of the magnetic-force field that permeates about the earth. I don’t know if you are familiar w/ the experiment where you pass a DC current through a wire which you also loop around a cylindrical object, like a plain old screw-driver, & then because of the magnetic-field created by the moving current around each loop of wire is pointing in the same direction & it is also perpendicular to the current flow. Then, this field concentrates inside the loop & along the entire length of the section of screw-driver under loops of wire. Now you have just created a magnetic screw-driver. If you attempt this, make sure you also include a light-bulb inline w/ the battery & the coil. If you disconnect the battery, the field collapses, & the temporary magnetization of that metal object begin to decay or die down, once the atoms inside start vibrating against each other & align in their normal fashion (for that “element”). Natural magnets have been magnetized by the earth’s magnetic field & because of the atomic structure of their “element” composition. Magnetic screw-drivers are most likely artificially magnetized electrically, & so would be the needle of the compass.

<img src=http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/sol3.gif>
Electric Magnet (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/sol3.gif)

Now, the natural question evolving, might be, well if the magnetic field “induced” by the unidirectional current-flow around, what in this case is, a cylindrical object, is created by “current flow”, then where is the “current flow” that creates the “earth’s magnetic-field” coming from. Well, if you read “David Wilcock”, he explains it, he takes you all the way down to the atoms & the vortexes of energy out of which they emanate from, right out of the “aether” (also “ether”). Read this in ch03 where it talks about the platonic solids (& how this reality & matter is created out of vibrations of energy). He also explains how the planets are also emanations of energy from the ether, & therefore receive their (invisible) energy from there.

Ch07 - Spherical Energy Structures in the Cosmos
http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos/07.htm

Ch06 - The Universal Heartbeat
http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos/06.htm

Ch03 - Sacred Geometry in the Quantum Realm
http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos/03.htm

8-)

nomad
05-22-2005, 02:19 PM
Very interesting Jimbo ...

because it has been said that Mr. Electric was the

only one in his block apartment to have

electricity during a long power outage it appears

to me that he may be extracting it from radio

signals.

Can you make sense of the fact that ALL

the "free energy" devices Mr. Electric

demonstrated had one distinguising feature ?

And that being that they ALL had a

single SOLENOID coil as its biggest component ?

Jimbo
05-22-2005, 04:40 PM
Free-Energy Source ??? :-o :-o :-o

I would guess, that since the “Zero-Point Energy” patent states,


“A system is disclosed for converting high frequency zero point electromagnetic radiation energy to electrical energy. The system includes a pair of dielectric structures which are positioned proximal to each other and which receive incident zero point electromagnetic radiation. The volumetric sizes of the structures are selected so that they resonate at a frequency of the incident radiation. The volumetric sizes of the structures are also slightly different so that the secondary radiation emitted therefrom at resonance interfere with each other producing a beat frequency radiation which is at a much lower frequency than that of the incident radiation and which is amenable to conversion to electrical energy. An antenna receives the beat frequency radiation. The beat frequency radiation from the antenna is transmitted to a converter via a conductor or waveguide and converted to electrical energy having a desired voltage and waveform.”

From:
Re: FREE ENERGY - I HAVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES - Post #6 - Zero-Point Energy Extraction
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1344


that this energy is high-frequency, & it has a pair of “resonant” inductor circuits, the “wiz-kid” is tapping right into the man-made “no man’s land”. As you can see from the chart (in the above post) radio frequencies are below the part of the spectrum where “visible light” resides, therefore, you can not see them, but they are there.

However, to be absolutely certain, one would need to determine whether a single coil design is capable of tuning into the high-frequency spectrum, & what are the characteristics of such a coil (i.e., frequency of operation, size, inductance, number of turns (loops), composition, etc.) I’ll be surprised. However, if “wiz-kid” has the (magnetic) “flux-capacitor” circuit of “Back to the Future” (the movie w/ Michael J. Fox), then we’ll literally have the tool to change all of our futures… but remember, someone already holds a patent for that “invention” (discovery).

8-)

Jimbo
05-22-2005, 05:05 PM
Free-Energy Source ??? :-o :-o :-o

Interestingly, one can see how “man” fits right inside this “spectrum of energy”. We hear low frequencies w/ our ears, our physiological systems get affected by RF radio-frequencies, our eyes are capable of seeing & therefore detecting a section of the spectrum of “visible light”, & we can telepathically tune into mental visions & sounds, & therefore, because our composition is “multi-dimensional” (across a wide band w/in the spectrum of energy) we could infer that, not only are we composed of components w/in the universal energy spectra, we are thus “universal beings”, not only created by the universe, but we are in “constant” communication (communion) w/ the universe. Each & everyone of us also “resonate” at a particular frequency, which would be your “individual” “natural frequency”. You know what happens when you excite a bridge & make it vibrate or resonate at its “natural frequency”, it destroys itself… Our “natural frequencies” could most likely be derived from our own DNA imprints.

8-)

Jimbo
05-22-2005, 09:29 PM
Dancing With The Universe – :-o :-o :-o

<img src=http://media.nasaexplores.com/lessons/03-050/images/safer5.jpg>
Astronaut (http://media.nasaexplores.com/lessons/03-050/images/safer5.jpg)

Floating & Thus "In Resonance w/ The Universe" Was A Spiritually Connecting Experience For –
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, 6th Man To Walk On The Moon
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050520/LOCAL/205200322/1078/news

8-)

nomad
05-22-2005, 10:58 PM
Jimbo wrote:
Free-Energy Source ??? :-o :-o :-o

Interestingly, one can see how “man” fits right inside this “spectrum of energy”. We hear low frequencies w/ our ears, our physiological systems get affected by RF radio-frequencies, our eyes are capable of seeing & therefore detecting a section of the spectrum of “visible light”, & we can telepathically tune into mental visions & sounds, & therefore, because our composition is “multi-dimensional” (across a wide band w/in the spectrum of energy) we could infer that, not only are we composed of components w/in the universal energy spectra, we are thus “universal beings”, not only created by the universe, but we are in “constant” communication (communion) w/ the universe. Each & everyone of us also “resonate” at a particular frequency, which would be your “individual” “natural frequency”. You know what happens when you excite a bridge & make it vibrate or resonate at its “natural frequency”, it destroys itself… Our “natural frequencies” could most likely be derived from our own DNA imprints.

8-)

This is really fascinating to say the least and

very well articulated !

:-o :-o :-o

nomad
05-22-2005, 11:20 PM
Jimbo this is what the wiz kid's device resembles

in description. Some differences are that the kid

not coming from an industrial background made his

to " only " run all the power needs of a house

and a car.

Hubbard's is bigger but notice how cheap his was

to build even consider inflation. Another

difference is that the wiz kiz coil was placed

horizontally. Another interesting similarity is

that the wiz stated that the devices

are "lifeless" when completed and will not work

unless "kick started" after which it will always

work.


The Post-Intelligencer (Seattle WA), Thursday, July 29, 1920 ~

Hubbard Coil Runs Boat On Portage Bay Ten Knots An Hour; Auto Test Next ~
Seattle Boy Inventor Makes Good His Claims of Last December When He Announced Discovery to P.I. ~

Hubbard's Claims ~

If young Hubbard's claims are correct regarding the newest coil he has perfected, and which propelled a boat yesterday, these are a few of the things the coil would do without cost other than the initial outlay of $90:

Drive a large touring car at normal speed.
Illuminate a moderate-sized office building.
Furnish current for lighting, cooking, and heating for a large residence
Heat seven two room apartments.

Alfred M. Hubbard, Seattle boy inventor of a device which for want of a better name he terms an atmospheric power generator, yesterday made good his prediction that he would drive a motorboat with the apparatus as a source of
power.

An eighteen foot boat, propelled by a thirty-five-horse power electric motor, which obtained its current from the Hubbard coil, was driven about Portage Bay on Lake Union. Among those who witnessed the demonstration was a well-known local capitalist, the inventor's father,William H. Hubbard, and a Post Intelligencer reporter.

The boat traveled at a speed of between eight and ten knots--silently, except for the whirring of a chain belt which connected the motor with the propeller shaft. When the chain belt was removed, the motor ran free at a speed estimated at 3,500 revolutions [the rest of this line is unreadable]

No Hidden Wires Found ~

To guard against the possibility of ordinary storage batteries concealed about the boat as a power source, instead of the Hubbard coil, both electric motor and coil were lifted free from their blocks, but no hidden wiring was revealed. The coil used as a power unit was eleven inches in diameter and fourteen inches in length. According to Hubbard, tests of the coil show a
current of 280 amperes and 125 volts, which, he pointed out was equivalent to approximately forty-five horse power, or sufficient to drive an automobile. The current is pulsating.

The electric motor was approximately twelve inches in diameter eighteen inches in length. It had been reconstructed in order to be used with the Hubbard coil.

After his ride in the strange powered craft the capitalist declared that he was frankly puzzled, but that he desired an electrical engineer in his employ to make an examination of the coil before he felt free to discuss it.

Since last December, when the Post-Intelligencer first made public the claims of the youthful inventor, he has been more or less in retirement, perfecting his coil. He took up his residence in Everett where, with the assistance of Everett backers he worked on his device.

A local capitalist agreed to witness a demonstration of the coil to determine its practicability as a power source. The motorboat was fitted with blocks on which to rest the motor and the propeller shaft geared for a
chained belt.

When the motor was first tried out after its installation in the boat it ran backwards. So involved are the connections between the motor and the coil that fully a half-hour's experimentation was necessary before the motor shaft revolved in the right direction.

That the capitalist was frankly skeptical of the device was plain when he,with two other passengers, boarded the boat at the Seattle Yacht Club wharf. All the machinery that was visible was the coil and the motor, the latter plainly geared to the propeller shaft. The boat shoved off, Hubbard threw the switch, and instantly the boat began to pick up speed.

It circled about the bay and returned to the wharf, with never a slackening of speed. The wires connecting coil and motor had begun to heat under the excessive current, and, fearing that some part of the coil might give way under the extra heavy strain put on it, Hubbard declined to permit the motor to be run continuously for any length of time. It was tried out later several times, after brief periods which allowed the wires to cool, and its power apparently showed no diminution. No instruments were used to test its wattage.

The capitalist admitted that the demonstration intrigued his interest, but that he would wait for his expert's opinion before discussing it.

Following the demonstration, the young inventor declared that within a few days he expected to drive an automobile with the coil as a power unit.

The Coil used yesterday had been built especially for the demonstration, and is nearly twice the size of the coil Hubbard used in his demonstration last winter. The large coil cost approximately $90 to construct. The inventor says that so far as he has been able to learn its life as a power unit is indefinite. He declared that a coil large enough to drive an airplane would be no more than three times the size of the coil used yesterday, and that a machine thus equipped could fly around the world without stopping, so far as the power supply is concerned.

While the device has been patented, the claims for it are so broad that Hubbard says he does not feel safe in making public his secret. In general, he says, it is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. A coil thus constructed, he says, is lifeless until given an initial impulse. This is done by connecting the ends of its windings for a fraction of a second to an
ordinary[two words unreadable R.L.R.] -ing circuit, he says.

The manner of this momentary charging, however, constitutes the principal secret of the device, according to the inventor, who says that while machinists have built a number of coils for him under his direction, they have been unable to "start" them. In the event the power of the coil should diminish, it can be rejuvenated in less than a second, Hubbard says.

Photo captions (Photos by Walter P. Miller, Post-Intelligencer Staff Photographer) ~

1-- Arrangement of Hubbard coil and motor in boat. The motor is nearest the bow.
2-- Alfred M. Hubbard, inventor of the coil used as a power unit.
3--The boat under way, driven by a motor which obtained its power from the Hubbard coil.

http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm#pi1


http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/0hubbard.gif

Jimbo
05-23-2005, 02:59 PM
Free-Energy Devices - :-o :-o :-o

<img src=http://www.nuenergy.org/images/gif/valve.gif height=245 width=307><img src=http://www.nuenergy.org/images/gif/fig1.gif height=245 width=307>
Morray’s Ion Valve (http://www.nuenergy.org/images/gif/valve.gif) Ion Valve Circuit Diagram (http://www.nuenergy.org/images/gif/fig1.gif)

nomad, it looks like all of these previous inventors had similar ideas, about the way to collect “radiant energy” from the surrounding environment via “resonant” circuits (coils & capacitors) tuned to a particular frequency or frequency range. After the original energy is collected & it reaches some “steady state” oscillatory (resonant) characteristics, where these devices don’t need any further assistance (or kick start), it goes on its own providing a constant source of “electrical” power…, same as the “Tesla” Coil.

Henry Morray's Ion Valve Technology (Radiant Energy Receiver)
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/valve.htm

Nu Energy Sodium Chlorida Ion-Valve
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/sodium_chloride_valve.htm

Nu Energy Research Laboratory
http://www.nuenergy.org/

Alternative Energy Research Archive
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/archive.htm

Perpetual Motion Magnetic Machine
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-magnet.html

Irish Inventor Cracks World's Energy Needs
http://js082.k12.sd.us/My_Classes/Physical_Science/Free%20Energy/Free_Energy.htm

Inventor Claims Discovery Of Free Energy
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/frengyx.htm

NASA To Study Man Who Lives On Liquids And Light
http://www.rense.com/general38/nanas.htm

8-)

Jimbo
05-23-2005, 04:08 PM
Free-Energy Devices – :-o :-o :-o

<img src=http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/0coil.gif width=560 height=280>
Alfred M. Hubbard's Coil (http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/0coil.gif)

Now, if we look at ”Hubbard’s Generator Coil”, it looks as an enhanced “Ion Valve” (although we can not be certain we are looking at the exactly the same thing) w/ additional 8-internal electro-magnets, which are not visible from the outside, where all you see is just a large coil.

“While the device has been patented, the claims for it are so broad that Hubbard says he does not feel safe in making public his secret. In general, he says, it is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. A coil thus constructed, he says, is lifeless until given an initial impulse. This is done by connecting the ends of its windings for a fraction of a second to an ordinary[two words unreadable R.L.R.] -ing circuit, he says.”

Alfred M. Hubbard – Coil Generator
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm#pi1

8-)

nomad
05-23-2005, 04:36 PM
The idiot savant autistic kid had nothing in

the core of his horizontal coil ... he did

have a few smaller 3 to 4 inch by 5 in

vertical coils connected to it and they too

were empty except these coils consisted of

coils within coils ... I am dying to go

to the next conference to take down better notes.

Thanks for all the links Jimbo ... with them

I am able to see quite a few similarities with

the wiz kids design.

Jimbo
05-23-2005, 05:02 PM
Henry Moray’s Energy Coil – :-o :-o :-o

<img src=http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/1rer1.gif>
Moray’s Energy Coil (http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/1rer1.gif)

The Sea Of Energy – Henry Moray’s Energy Coil
http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

8-)

Max
05-27-2005, 06:38 PM
Here is some exciting information- I got ahold of this link:
http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm


Which has a link to this write-up by 3 PhDs & 2 B.S. on a Motionless Electromagnetic Generator-
http://www.help4all.de/energy/MEGpaper.pdf

It has theory, diagrams, oscilloscope readings - the whole bit- 69 pages worth. I just got it, checked it over for 5 minutes and had to post it! Will be looking at it more this weekend.

Here's another link:
http://www.cheniere.org/
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Final%20Secret%209%20Feb%201993/index.html

nomad
05-27-2005, 07:20 PM
Max do you know of any impecable sources proving

that the MEG rally works ?

Unlike the MEG, the free energy device I

witnessed looked like it was made by a child.

I still don't sleep well at nights knowing

the f*cking thing actually works. Of all the

conspiracies free energy takes the top prize

in my book because you personally can do something

about it ... all you need is $50.00 worth

of coils and wires.

Max
05-27-2005, 07:24 PM
It's new information so I haven't checked into it yet. This device looks really simple too. I think I need to try and build one.

nomad
05-27-2005, 07:38 PM
Tesla is the real genius. The whole future is

his creation, the wiz kid quoted him and

you wouldn't be able to read this without him.

Einstein is probably the world's biggest FRAUD.

This is the easiest Tesla patent for free

energy.

http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/tesla_energy.htm

patent number: 685958

http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm

Jimbo
06-08-2005, 09:38 PM
Free Energy Devices ??? :-o :-o :-o

<img src="http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/crop/sutcrop2.jpg" height=501 width=700>
Crop Circle (http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/crop/sutcrop2.jpg)

I was just checking out some new information when I came across an interesting article. It is called “Crop Circles Decoded”, however, it relates to hidden, or encoded information contained in the “Crop Circles” themselves. They talk about a “magnatron,” which is supposed to be a old device used in the "radio" technology. I personally never heard of the device before, but it seems to be a device “similar” to what conventional TVs use & we refer to as a “tube.”

“It forces electrons to go from a negative terminal to a positive terminal whilst passing through a magnetic field. When electrons encounter magnetic line of force, they rotate (spin) around that line of force before proceeding toward the positive terminal that they are traveling to. That electron/magnetic interaction results in the creation of microwave energies.”

Now it so happens that if you excite water “at a specific frequency at about 27 GHZ - Microwaves 'shake-up' a water molecule to the point where that molecule splits into its constituent parts. Namely, hydrogen and oxygen.”

“By applying a high voltage potential at a frequency which matched the resonant frequency of water. This allowed an 'aperture' to open in the etheric continuum which caused 'higher order' energy (zero point or free energy) to flow in and magnify the combustible energy by a huge factor.”

It looks like “Stanley Meyer” had developed a system for using water as fuel based on this knowledge of water & its “resonant frequency”. However not surprisingly, “Stanley had just completed obtaining 50 million in funding for a research and development center when he was murdered by poisoning at a restaurant in Grove City, Ohio on March 21, 1998.”

Crop Circles Decoded – Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/cropcirclesdecoded10may05.shtml

Crop Circles Decoded – by Tom Sutter
http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/crop/index.htm

8-)

nomad
06-09-2005, 04:26 AM
Jimbo my 2 cents on crop circles is that if Aliens

really wanted to communicate with us they would

easily take over the TV and radio airways. Mr.

electric made a demonstration of remotely causing

a radio to react to his movements.

Jimbo
06-09-2005, 09:01 PM
Free Energy Devices ??? – :-o :-o :-o

I agree, the last thing we want to do is waste our time talking or arguing (positively) about something everyone concurs, is meaningless. So, let’s just say that for the sake of covering all of the angles, & all of the possibilities, I am adding the following…

One thing definitely wrong w/ today’s “politicized science” is that “covering all of the angles & all of the possibilities” might “conflict” w/ their current or future “scheme of control.” As a consequence, we do not get the truth, & we do not get all of the angles & all of the possibilities, in particular, on the more important issues.

I like to keep an open mind. The mind of a “true scientist” or “explorer of the unknown” should be open to even sometimes, contemplate those things that contradict what we think we know. In that light, I keep an open mind. For example, “David Icke” talks about the “shape-shifting reptilians,” & granted, that point of view seems very far fetched to most of us, however, from the point of view of an “open-minded scientist,” if some reptiles can actually camouflage themselves by taking the characteristics of their surrounding environment, why would the same task be out of the question for “humans,” or a derivative of “humans?” They are way smaller than us, while our brains are so much more developed. It is theoretically possible.

Crop Circles – Are “crop circles” real? Or do we imagine their existence? If they are real, then, who creates them? Are they created w/ the use of sophisticated “laser beam technology” from a man-made orbiting satellite? What is their message? Why?

UFOs – Granted I have never seen a UFO or known anyone who swears they have ever being abducted. However, one time I had the following experience – I was outside by the driveway at a friend’s house, & we were talking while looking up to the sky. It was a cool night, the sky was clear, full of stars, & you couldn’t help it but to look up. All of the sudden I spotted a moving “light” which had the same shape & color as any other “star.” The object was moving, literally, from east to west. It was not moving on a straight line, since we know when we see a far away airplane how it moves in a straight line. This object was moving w/ the curvature of the earth. It was so far & bright, that it looked just like a star. Now, shortly thereafter, I also noticed there was another object moving in synchronicity w/ this object, however, this one was moving from south to north. My friend & I were both looking & talking about what we were experiencing, & we were both completely amazed by the experience. Well, the 2 objects crossed paths in the exact middle of the sky & continued their trajectories to the north & to the west, while both keeping their same exact brightness, no trails of any kind, no noise, & nothing else that could explain to us what we just experienced. The whole thing took about perhaps 3 minutes tops, for them to cross the entire sky. Could they have been our own satellites? Perhaps. They were going super fast.

Aliens – Same deal. However, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Theoretically speaking, they can exist. If we can perform space travel, why couldn’t other beings do the same? Why would they want to intercept our radio & TV? If we could actually travel to any other world or planet, I don’t think we would be so obvious. I think we would do the same thing, sneak up on someone we could take advantage of. We do that now.

However, one thing does strike me as definitely interesting is the fact that usually the government denies things that are very real, but because of the benefit they get from keeping them secret, they even spend a lot of time an effort ridiculing, mockering, & trashing any evidence that supports to the contrary. And we know, they do this for both UFOs & extraterrestrial aliens. They have also for a very long time stuck to the idea that a perpetual motion machine is just not possible. However, we have both seen how people around the world have tapped into sources of free-energy, & those who have gotten too close, are now dead.

Anyhow, w/o wasting any more time, all I’m saying is that when I look at these “unknown” things, I keep an open mind, & by the same token, I would never ridicule anyone who claims they can talk w/ invisible people.

I think the information about extracting energy from water while exiting it at it’s natural frequency is relevant to the research of free-energy sources. If this information is indeed depicted in several crop-circle formations, I think that is even more interesting, whether crop-circles are man-made or extraterrestrial-made.

The fact that we have some very smart “autistic” people in our world proves to me how little science really knows about the human computer. Yes they can amputate or transplant almost any organ, including blood & brain tissue. They can modify (change) genes (i.e., gene therapy). They can “clone” an animal from fertile cell material & DNA taken from a healthy living animal by forcing cell division. They can turn a “stem cell” into another kind of cell (i.e., muscle, blood vessel) However, they can not create a “stem cell” from inorganic compounds, let alone create a complete human being out of nothing. This proves how little do we really know about the human being.

8-)

Jimbo
06-10-2005, 07:52 AM
Free Energy Devices :-o :-o :-o

<img <img <img src="http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/meg31_9s.jpg" width=680 height=462>
Motionless Electromagnetic Generator (http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/meg31_9s.jpg)

As Max pointed out...

Motionless Electromagnetic Generator
Thomas E. Bearden, Ph.D. James C. Hayes, Ph.D. James L. Kenny, Ph.D. Kenneth D. Moore, B.S. Stephen L. Patrick, B.S., MEG Under Test by J. L. Naudin
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm

The MEG Project
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv21.htm

NOTE: The size of the MEG shown here is capable of providing much more power that that required for a single light bulb, that's why it is so large.

8-)

nomad
06-10-2005, 07:57 AM
Let's look at pure logic ... How can Aliens be
more advanced than us if we were able to shoot some ufos down ? How can they be so spiritually advanced that they would let us hold some of them
as prisoners and their kind would not intervene
nor teleport them back to safety ? EVERYTHING the Aliens and UFOs are claimed to be able to do has already been discussed by mere humans as being
attainable by us. Listen to what Tesla had to say about his airplane over 100 hundred years ago.

-----------------------------------------

"MY flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of 'holes in the air' or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired.
"It can remain absolutely stationary in the air even in a wind for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action.
"You will get stability through gyroscopes?" I asked.
"Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about," he replied.
"Powerful air currents that may be deflected at will, if produced by engines and compressors sufficiently light and powerful, might lift a heavy body off the ground and propel it through the air?" I ventured, wondering if I had grasped the inventor's secret.
Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile. "All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers," he said. "It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible. "

06-10-2005, 10:45 AM
I agree with your logic, but, on the otherhand, if, hypothetically speaking, other "beings," other "life forms," other intelligence exists and our government is aware, why then do these "creatures from other planets" COOPERATE with them, allow them to be held hostage!?!

????

There must be a reason!!

Blackmail is used throughout all branches of government. Precisely why CONGRESS has been in a stranglehold for decades!!

Jimbo
06-10-2005, 12:33 PM
Free-Energy Devices – :-o :-o :-o

Not that it has anything directly related to “Zero-Point Free-Energy Devices”...

<img src=http://solder.ath.cx/Burisch/billh/Pics/DrDanB.jpg>
Dr. Dan Burisch (http://solder.ath.cx/Burisch/billh/Pics/DrDanB.jpg)

Alien DNA & “Staar-Flower” (Lotus) Project

Dr. “Dan Burisch” & Lotus/Staar-Flower Project – Must Read !!!
http://www.tonicvision.tv/burisch/18page_doc.html

The Ganesh Principle
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes%3Bread=27475

Burisch, Project Lotus & Disclosure Of The ET Presence
http://www.rense.com/general51/lotus.htm

Last Letter From Dr. Dan B. C. Burish & The Ganesh Particle
http://www.skywatch-research.org/message.htm

Fibonacci Series & The Ganesh Particle
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/kerub.htm

Dr. Dan Burisch, The Ganesh Particle, & Area & 51
http://www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/project_otus/DanB.html

Bursich's Ganesh Particle Acknowledged By Caltech
http://www.rense.com/general33/searcasdh.htm

The Current State Of Project Lotus - The Shiva Portal & Ganesh Particle
http://solder.ath.cx/Burisch/billh/ganesh.htm

Logic:

Because we may have shot down an alien spacecraft does not imply that we are more advanced than they are. Perhaps they were not guarding themselves the day they got shot down, that’s plausible. They could be more advanced in some areas & less advanced than us in other areas. There are no absolutes.

Holding someone down (hostage) doesn’t necessarily imply “spiritual” superiority, even though it does not say much for their captor's “spiritual or moral” fitness. In addition, we don’t know if they are indeed spiritual to any degree. Telepathy does not imply spirituality.

“Teleportation” is a concept we created. Whether they have implemented a “teleportation” mechanism does not make them more or less “alien”, or more or less “real”.

Because we can do similar things (i.e., fly through space, screw around w/ DNA & the “Ganesh Particle”) does not imply that “Aliens” &/or “UFOs” are not a possibility in our universe…

Because anyone want to say that Area-51 is just “science-fiction” & a creation of our imagination ala X-Files does not imply that Area-51 does not exist & it’s not real. But that’s why it is a top-secret installation.

Keywords: Dan Burisch, Ganesh Particle, Project Lotus, Project Staar-Flower, Vishnu Schist, Seed Of Life, DNA, Microbiology

8-)

nomad
06-10-2005, 01:42 PM
Aliens have ALOT to do with throwing sand in the

eyes of man to blind him to the fact that

relatively free energy is as plentiful as the

air we all breath. Folks I saw free energy at work

and it costs less than $50.00 for your own

Eternal free energy power plant. So excuse me

if I politely say to you all " WAKE UP you mother

f*ckers ! ! ! "

:-o :-o :-o

06-10-2005, 04:15 PM
You've seen it, but, hey, you're a lucky one!! You need to assist in the polite waking up of the other you know what's because they have no clue as to what you SPEAK!!!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Jimbo
06-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Nikola Tesla & Extraterrestrial Radio Signals – :-o :-o :-o

<img src="http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/Tesla_large.jpg" height=375><img src=http://www.crystalinks.com/teslawheel.jpg>
Nikola Tesla (1) (http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/Tesla_large.jpg) Nikola Tesla (2) (http://www.crystalinks.com/teslawheel.jpg)

Nikola Tesla & Some Of His Achievements
"Of all the frictional resistances, the one that most retards human movement is ignorance, what Buddha called 'the greatest evil in the world.' The friction which results from ignorance can be reduced only by the spread of knowledge and the unification of the heterogeneous elements of humanity. No effort could be better spent." – Nikola Tesla.
http://www.crystalinks.com/tesla.html

<img src=http://www.crystalinks.com/teslacoil2.gif>
Tesla Coil (http://www.crystalinks.com/teslacoil2.gif)


“In the Colorado Springs lab, Tesla recorded what he concluded were extraterrestrial radio signals and announced his findings in some of the scientific journals of the time.”

“Tesla’s initial announcement of the existence of extraterrestrial radio signals was in 1899.”

“Twenty-two years ago, while experimenting in Colorado with a wireless power plant, I obtained extraordinary experimental evidence of the existence of life on Mars.”

“Tesla felt the signal groups originated on the planet Mars.”

“There is evidence the signals Tesla noticed came from Jupiter, among other possible sources. Tesla spent the latter part of his life trying to signal Mars.”

8-)

06-15-2005, 08:36 PM
TELSA was "sending" and "receiving" signals!!

Sending and receiving signals as to the existence of life on other planets.

SENDING AND RECEIVING SIGNALS!!!

Interference!! They ran interference on him!! One of their methods employed to silence, neutralize and/or contain someone they deem as a threat to their power!!

They interfered with his research! Stopped him cold in his tracks.

Suppressed the evidence!!

????

nomad
06-28-2005, 06:50 PM
Greer talking about Tesla having free energy

system that I have seen with my own eyes.

http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Blood/0501/20050126_Wed_JackBlood1.mp3


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On this mp3 Greer talks about how

the patent office ROUTINELY classifies patent

holders of technology "dangerous" to the power

elite or the "National Security"

http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Blood/0501/20050126_Wed_JackBlood2.mp3

Dreak
07-02-2005, 11:10 AM
Hello all..I just found this Site and its Forums..and Im happy to be here.. :)

Im not one to beat around the bush so here I go ..

1. Jimbo..in your post on this thread # 107 .. that crop circle has been "modified" ..
http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/crop/sutcrop2.jpg
Its been edited by someone ( if not you personally because it doesnt even come close to a realistic editing by professionals..or havent you noticed the line alterations..gesh..I could do better pic editing in MS PAINT !!! )

2.Nomad wrote ..Let's look at pure logic ... How can Aliens be more advanced than us if we were able to shoot some ufos down ? How can they be so spiritually advanced that they would let us hold some of them as prisoners and their kind would not intervene nor teleport them back to safety ? EVERYTHING the Aliens and UFOs are claimed to be able to do has already been discussed by mere humans as being attainable by us. Listen to what Tesla had to say about his airplane over 100 hundred years ago.

TO NOMAD ...EVERYTHING has been discussed.. ? .. I highly doubt that.. you understand EVERYTHING about Aliens or UFOs..Its in your own perspective that IT has been ..

Lets look at your pure logic..YOU dont know everything about more advanced (were not talking spiritually advanced..cause we might be more spiritually advanced then "them" thats mebbe why there so interested in US ? ) who knows ..

"Shooting them down" ..hmm..do you have Proof that WE shot them down ?? or mebbe "they" were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got hit by a falling asteroid..you do know that "roids" are hard to predict no matter who you are ?

I would think that ANY advanced CIV would have the capacity to travel such FAR distances WITHOUT interupting the Space/Time to actually interact with us in Real Time..Without creating a time flux..or anything like that might possibly NOT be a part of a CIV that had "our" mindset of Killing..or Protection..or mebbe you didnt think about that..what exactly are you thinking..do you know about time/space travel ?? .. mebbe you should just stick with Energy gathering..after all..you DID say "nothing" is as important as your free energy thingy .. and wont post on anything but that..

OK..Im gonna lets say this can go for now..but..Im not gonna let go of your postings..

From Nomad Aliens have ALOT to do with throwing sand in the eyes of man to blind him to the fact that relatively free energy is as plentiful as the air we all breath. Folks I saw free energy at work and it costs less than $50.00 for your own Eternal free energy power plant. So excuse me if I politely say to you all " WAKE UP you mother f*ckers ! ! ! "

Hmm.. you "know" Aliens have ALOT to do with blinding US eh ?? what is your proof ?

Then I see your polite fulgar "WAKE UP you MF'ers"

As far as I see it..your a ( lemme guess..your 15-17 yrs old..and you want attention..you keep saying the same ol thing..50$ and "eternal free energy" )

grow up and find another forum to bake in man..

I would not be suprised if your not also "Jimbo"

PS. IF you were REAL and what your saying is REAL then you and all your post..and this forum would be shut down !! because BB would be ontop of you like flies on Bread .

But I doubt that you or anything you say is Real....of cource..you could post some kind of schematic..or pic..or drawing..or anything of what you saw in your "meeting" without some kind of "help" .. common..lets see a simple diagram..drawing..instead of "well ..this could happen..that could explain it..help ME "

I have no "help" .. you help us out..or are you afraid that the COPS are gonna get ya b4 you can post your findings ?

If so..then leave...if not..then post..

Dont waste our time here ...

Dreak..

07-02-2005, 11:43 AM
Dreak,

Waste OUR time here!! Are you speaking for ALL OF US? If not, than you should have said, "waste MY time here," and, in that case, it would be up to you to leave.

No one is forcing you to waste any of your time as far as I can tell.

You are free to come and go as you please on this site. No national ID cards, no search and seizures, no property forfeiture for government interests.

Alas, we have NO PROOF as to the existence of ALIENS!!!!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

P. S. Who sent you and what is your purpose? JIMBO and NOMAD are the same people, you say. Mighty presumptous of you!! By the way, it's maybe and not mebbee!!

:lol: 8-) :-P

07-02-2005, 11:50 AM
I made the following post on the other "TESLA" thread on July 2, 2005 at 7:37:



Ah, geez!! Sometimes, I hate when this happens!!

!!LOL!! Gotta laugh!!

Well, I don't know much about Tesla other than it could be that HE is the one whose technology they stole; have kept secret and to themselves as it was SAID that "it couldn't wind up in the wrong hands;" hence, the reason it was TOP SECRET, perhaps!!

Don't know about the circumstances behind his death, but the little I read, and although that isn't even necessary because WE know that anyone who poses a threat, has vital information, is either suicided, small plane crash, etc.

So, the disinformation implanted could very well be that "they receive their technology from other life forms."

WALLAH!!

In Peace,
BlueAngel



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Dreak made his post on this thread on July 2, 2005 at 8:10.

Just an observation. That's all!!

Dreak
07-02-2005, 04:04 PM
You are correct Blue..that was very rude of me..

The last two lines of my post were inappropriate and totally out of line ,I apologize.

Dreak.

07-02-2005, 07:30 PM
No apology necessary!!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

07-02-2005, 09:18 PM
However, this doesn't mean that I am discounting the fact that our UNIVERSE may also inhabit other forms of intelligent life.

STOP USING THE WORD ALIENS, whether referring to those who have entered into other countries illegally or those who may live on other planets!!

The word ALIEN is out-dated.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

P. S. Just as I don't know whether or not a GOD exists as I have not witnessed him with my own eyes, I certainly do not know whether or not other intelligent life forms exists as I have not witnessed them with my own eyes.

So, we can neither reject or accept. We must gather all evidence until conclusive proof is obtained.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Dreak
07-03-2005, 11:27 AM
Call me old Old fashioned..Ill refer them as OL' brothers and sisters ? or how about Earthy Organicly Challenged ?? yea.that works..from now on there called EOC's

Ill probably move this to another post..but..Your not seeing GOD is your personal challenge.. look around and explain everything..

who cares about intelligent life.

Life is Life babe .

microbes are just alive as you and I.

God does exist..just look around ( if your really looking for proof then look harder )

If GOD came down to you and tapped you on the shoulder and said " hey hey BA.." then you would have proof . But then again..what did HE say ? "those that belive without proof are respected more then those that dont" . And of cource anyone that even looks at Life and the Stars will have all the proof they want.

07-03-2005, 12:07 PM
Don't call me BABE!! Thanks!!

Did you read what I wrote???

I said, something like, so, "we can neither accept or reject."

I was referring to GOD and other intelligent forms of life in that particular comment.

There is much about life that I don't reject merely because I haven't seen proof with my own eyes.

I haven't witnessed you with my own eyes; however, I assume you exist.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Dreak
07-03-2005, 12:19 PM
So, we can neither reject or accept. We must gather all evidence until conclusive proof is obtained.

Do you have a Mouse in your pocket ? you speak as " we "

You might want to make that " I can neither reject or accept "

Which if you have not read..IT says " since you are neither warm or cold I will Spew you out of my mouth"

OF cource..If your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing.

What conclusive proof is it your after ??

Peace Out Dreak

07-03-2005, 12:33 PM
Dreak wrote:
So, we can neither reject or accept. We must gather all evidence until conclusive proof is obtained.

Do you have a Mouse in your pocket ? you speak as " we "

You might want to make that " I can neither reject or accept "

Which if you have not read..IT says " since you are neither warm or cold I will Spew you out of my mouth"

OF cource..If your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing.

What conclusive proof is it your after ??

Peace Out Dreak


No, I don't have a mouse in my pocket. I have one attached to my computer!!

I'll keep it as "we," but thanks anyway for the suggestion.

I'm referring to proof as to other intelligent life forms and I'm really not after it.

How 'bout some explanation as to "OF cource..If your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing." ??

I'm more worried about my government than a fence.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Dreak
07-03-2005, 12:51 PM
As I said..This is not respecting the origional post here..and Ill move this convo .

This post was about Free Energy which alot of peeps might want to read on..not our personal

Were allready inguaged in another post which i Started..so please respond there..or get back to Nomads post herein..

no Disrespect..

Peace Dreak

07-03-2005, 02:31 PM
Dreak,

I really don't need to get back to NOMAD's post herein.

I expressed what I wanted to say about FREE ENERGY AND TESLA.

However, if you're going to respond to me "off subject," then it may, at times, require that I ask you to elaborate.

If you don't want to elaborate or don't want to get off topic then you should leave whatever you perceive to be personal out of your posts.

Moving on!!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Dreak
07-03-2005, 02:51 PM
You ok Blue ??

I was trying to be polite..

No, I don't have a mouse in my pocket. I have one attached to my computer!! I'll keep it as "we," but thanks anyway for the suggestion. I'm referring to proof as to other intelligent life forms and I'm really not after it. How 'bout some explanation as to "OF cource..If your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing." ?? I'm more worried about my government than a fence. In Peace, BlueAngel

you said "No, I don't have a mouse in my pocket. I have one attached to my computer!! "

Ok..sarcasm back to me.. :)

you said "I'll keep it as "we," but thanks anyway for the suggestion."

Ok..If you feel that way..np for me

you said "I'm referring to proof as to other intelligent life forms and I'm really not after it."

Ok..not really a question there..

you asked quoting me "How 'bout some explanation as to "OF cource..IF your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing." ?? "

I didnt say " OF cource your not worried...etc..

It wasnt ment to offend you .. nor was it in my mind anything that really needed any more attention..but If you feel that somehow Im attacking you..on the fence thingy..then dont ..It was just something that came out :)

Peace Dreak

07-03-2005, 03:43 PM
Dreak wrote:
You ok Blue ??

I was trying to be polite..

No, I don't have a mouse in my pocket. I have one attached to my computer!! I'll keep it as "we," but thanks anyway for the suggestion. I'm referring to proof as to other intelligent life forms and I'm really not after it. How 'bout some explanation as to "OF cource..If your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing." ?? I'm more worried about my government than a fence. In Peace, BlueAngel

you said "No, I don't have a mouse in my pocket. I have one attached to my computer!! "

Ok..sarcasm back to me.. :)

you said "I'll keep it as "we," but thanks anyway for the suggestion."

Ok..If you feel that way..np for me

you said "I'm referring to proof as to other intelligent life forms and I'm really not after it."

Ok..not really a question there..

you asked quoting me "How 'bout some explanation as to "OF cource..IF your not worried about being on the fence..then thats your thing." ?? "

I didnt say " OF cource your not worried...etc..

It wasnt ment to offend you .. nor was it in my mind anything that really needed any more attention..but If you feel that somehow Im attacking you..on the fence thingy..then dont ..It was just something that came out :)

Peace Dreak

You didn't say that? Hmmm!! Appears that you did when I go back and read your post.

I didn't think you were attacking me over the fency thingy. I was asking you to elaborate. Apparently, you feel it was something that just came out and requires no further explanation from you. Okay, fine with me.

If I ask you a question about or reply to your comments, seems you think I'm being sarcastic and think that I feel as though I'm being attacked. I have never felt attacked by anyone on this forum including you.

More like on the defensive!!

I can be sarcastic. No denying that. So, don't feel that somehow it's only directed at you.

As far as whether or not I'm okay. I'm fine. Was there something in my post that made you think I'm not?

In Peace,
BlueAngel

P. S. My replies to your comments aren't meant to suggest that you aren't being polite.

Michel
07-16-2005, 01:50 PM
Hello has all!

Gravity Motors = Free Energy:
http://perpetuum.monsite.wanadoo.fr/
http://ntpo.com/invention/invention2/9_en.shtml

I awaits your comments.

nomad
07-16-2005, 04:20 PM
You don't need to get theorical.

Behold the truth.

The Earth is a perpetual motion machine.

truebeliever
07-16-2005, 07:24 PM
True! Dear Nomad, but moving in a vaccuum and powered by the yet unexplained "gravity".

Gravity is amazing when you think about it. Einstein reckoned you cant go faster than light and it was the context of everything in the Universe.

However, gravity; the weakest force in the Universe, holds EVERYTHING in a strict holding pattern and seems to work accross the vast stretches of the universe instantly at all times...
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The list of withheld technologies is so long it would list as twice as long as ALL the total posts in this forum.

It is probably the one thing that this centralised/banker controlled world makes me most angry about. That technology exists that could make the Earth a paradise to live in as we push out into the solar system and beyond to marvel at God's creation.

Instead we are led by the nose, scam after scam...

Noam Chomsky writes that we are held in an "endless web of lies and deciet". I could'nt agree more and I believe the with holding of boundless energy is the biggest one of them.

Ahmad
07-16-2005, 08:28 PM
peace all,

Just a thought that occured to me, do we need energy in these large quantities in the first place? if we get hold on such a free energy source, will we be happier than our grand grandfathers? when did man first come to need a vehicle? why did he replace his donkey and horse with the motor car? isn't it because we traded the small, strong village communities with the transgressing huge jungle cities?

This is just an invitation to think about the ends before the means. Let's start thinking about the pros and cons.

Ahmad

truebeliever
07-16-2005, 10:19 PM
I agree Ahmed.

I personally love the rural lifestyle though I am in the city which I hope to rectify soon enough.

By isolating us in giant concret jungles we are unable to act locally and organise locally.

However, de-industrialising and depopulating people into rural type settings IS ACTUALLY a NWO tenent.

We must be mindful of this. It is MY prefered way and perhaps yours Ahmed but I fear "They" will not be so quick to give up their power and return to the Earth and village community which I beleiev to be the normal state.

The future may entail big cities but with defined Village Type Bounderies and intense local government participation by an informed citizenry.

I beleive it's possible. It will take along time.

The old "think Globally, act locally" is my mantra these days.

flying_stars
07-21-2005, 02:52 PM
Is there any chance you could draw from memory what the coils and wires looked like?


Thanks,

-Stars

nomad
07-21-2005, 03:06 PM
truebeliever wrote:
True! Dear Nomad, but moving in a vaccuum and powered by the yet unexplained "gravity".

Gravity is amazing when you think about it. Einstein reckoned you cant go faster than light and it was the context of everything in the Universe.

However, gravity; the weakest force in the Universe, holds EVERYTHING in a strict holding pattern and seems to work accross the vast stretches of the universe instantly at all times...
----------------------------------------------------
The list of withheld technologies is so long it would list as twice as long as ALL the total posts in this forum.

It is probably the one thing that this centralised/banker controlled world makes me most angry about. That technology exists that could make the Earth a paradise to live in as we push out into the solar system and beyond to marvel at God's creation.

Instead we are led by the nose, scam after scam...

Noam Chomsky writes that we are held in an "endless web of lies and deciet". I could'nt agree more and I believe the with holding of boundless energy is the biggest one of them.

If the NWO was not in control and love ruled we

would all have robots doing most of the work

for most of us by now.

nomad
07-21-2005, 03:08 PM
flying_stars wrote:
Is there any chance you could draw from memory what the coils and wires looked like?


Thanks,

-Stars

I remember only the first one by heart. The

kid had about 30 different modules. The

overridding design was utter simplicity of simple

wires and coils. Each subsequent module would

disprove what you thought was the solution to the

previous modules secret. He started in a very

logical fashion and by the end, ALL LOGIC was

gone and you entered the realm of WTF to the nth

degree. In the end the entire classroom was like

in a religious trance literally singing. NO JOKE.

We all knew that what we were witnessing was

REAL. The gathering ended much like people

leaving a church whereby everyone has just seen

the Holy Ghost himself.

flying_stars
07-21-2005, 03:46 PM
This reminds me a lot of Mr. H. Perrigo's device.

Coils and wires..... ano nothing else.

Here is the link to Rex Research:
http://www.rexresearch.com/perrigo/perrig~1.htm

-Stars

nomad
07-21-2005, 05:06 PM
This matches what I witnessed.
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It is certain, however, that Perrigo had something unique; his device lit bulbs with a clearer light than normal electricity (Like E.V. Gray & Moray), and the power could be transmitted over fine wires without meltdown.
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flying_stars
07-21-2005, 05:35 PM
Perrigo started with just small devices that had hardly more than a coil and wires in various configurations. His early small convertors could easily be looked through with just some small gauge hookup wire and a coil.

-Stars

Michel
07-22-2005, 12:53 AM
http://www.selfsufficientish.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=710

littlejohn
03-06-2006, 10:13 PM
Well I dont beleive this guys explanation but it does have some pictures

http://www.geocities.com/masolis_52/weird.html

Jimbo
10-25-2007, 11:20 PM
Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”

Jimbo
12-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Zero Point Energy - Energy From The Vacuum - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Zero Point Energy - Energy From The Vacuum

Unfortunately, I think that "Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden" died recently. Check out the following trailer, & it should generate some chills. I am planning to get his DVDs sometime in the near future.

Energy From The Vacuum - Radiant Energy - Video (Windows Media Player)
http://www.energeticproductions.com/EFTV_Part2_trailer.wmv

Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden
http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html

Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden - Video Gallery
http://www.cheniere.org/video/index.html

Lt. Col. Thomas E. Bearden - Energy From The Vacuum
http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com

Tom Bearden On Nikola Tesla
http://www.thelastoutpost.com/site/1233/default.aspx

Nikola Tesla’s Auto-Biography
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/tesla/biog.txt

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Jimbo
01-20-2008, 05:49 PM
John Searl - SEG Device - Searl Effect Generator - Law of Squares - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

John Searl - SEG Device - Searl Effect Generator - Law of Squares
This knowledge & invention provided Zero-Point Energy, & Anti-Gravity UFO Technology, which Professor John Searl started developing in the 1960s w/ just a few helpers. He was later imprisoned. And now, he is once again releasing this information out to the World. Watch the video below & you will see the development of the Anti-Gravity Flying Saucer model he built, tested, & demonstrated to his supporters of that time... completely "Amazing".

The Searl Effect - Large-Scale Anti-Gravity - gG Video (56:43 m:s)
<embed style="width:608px; height:342px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8635897559220353909&hl=en"></embed>

The Searl Effect - Large-Scale Anti-Gravity - gG Video (56:43 m:s)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635897559220353909

David Wilcock - 2012 - The Bright Side
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=372&Itemid=70

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - Sounds Of The Revolution - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdUAliVf8o

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - In Glastonbury - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TExIOW3eMu0

John Searl - SEG - Searl Effect Generator
http://rexresearch.com/searl4/searl4.htm

John Searl - The JS Solution - SEG Technology
http://www.searlsolution.com/technology4.html

John Searl - SEG Assembly & Operation Graphic - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCjM-ZOqQF0

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - Voltage Controlled Demonstration - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qvSNkiB9M

John Searl - SEG - The Next Step - April 2007 - yT Video (6:29 m:s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb3N1epMG7A

John Searl - And Newton's Law - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY

John Searl - And Newton's Law - P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gRnzI2os0

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - 3D Representation - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUvhuQtba4

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - 12 Roller Mock-Up - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yID01RjBzDE

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - Expert Verification - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKHHfuSyyz0

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - Expert Verification - P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qg5zCpJefo

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - Mock-Up Running At 200rpm - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYUKBEPO8I

John Searl - SEG Effect Generator - Material Progress Update - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6RSIeL6yh0

John Searl - Some Inconvenient Truths - P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c__xh9RlWgo

Invention Of The SEG - Anti-Gravity - by John A. Thomas Jr.
http://www.searleffect.com/free/articles/artextra.html

Yahoo Search - "John Searl" SEG "Effect Generator" "Law of Squares"
http://search.yahoo.com/search?n=10&ei=UTF-8&va_vt=any&vo_vt=any&ve_vt=any&vp_vt=any&vd=all&vf=all&vm=p&p=%22John+Searl%22+SEG+%22Effect+Generator%22+%22L aw+of+Squares%22

Magnet Motor Free Energy - Demonstration - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCANbMBujjQ

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

stompk
01-21-2008, 03:19 AM
Jimbo, I am all over this. I am a master electrician.

The coil device fascinates me. I am researching.

Jimbo
01-21-2008, 08:59 AM
In the first video, the most important, he quickly explains how the magnetic properties of the materials are methodically changed. The rollers are made of adjacent sections, which are of shifting opposite polarities. Also, the center core is not even. It seems to have these sinusoidal zero-point gaps along specific points depending on the design size & the number of rollers used. However, due to the brevity of his explanation it is kind of hard to grasp upon a first glance. Fascinating indeed... & then (although we know why) you ask yourself, how come they have kept this from humanity for all of this time. Could you imagine the kind of (positive) world we could be living on if we had hardnessed & used all of this energy for the “betterment” of humanity at large? We would have advanced by now literally generations ahead of where we stand today. Illiteracy (& poverty) could have been wiped out off from the face of the Earth, along w/ the expensive & highly inefficient Medical care. Almost “everyone” could be studying any career they chose. Everyone could be dedicated for a lifetime to any endeavor they chose. The Earth could have turned itself into a futuristic utopia. Peace achieved world wide, & “tyranny,” a thing of the “dark ages”. Could you imagine...

Jimbo
01-21-2008, 10:01 AM
If man used everything he knows for man instead of against man, then every man would be great, and no one would be poor. And that is the scariest thing to anyone who believes that he is truly great. It is only in this foolishness that he remains ignorant & eternally dead.

Jimbo
01-21-2008, 01:43 PM
John Searl - SEG Device - Searl Effect Generator - Law of Squares - ??? - :confused:

John Roy Robert Searl - SEG Effect Generator

The Searl Effect - Large-Scale Anti-Gravity - gG Video (56:43 m:s)
<embed style="width:608px; height:342px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8635897559220353909&hl=en"></embed>

The Searl Effect - Large-Scale Anti-Gravity - gG Video (56:43 m:s)
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635897559220353909" target="_blank">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635897559220353909</a>

John Searl - SEG Story DVD Trailer P1 - yT Video
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZUFS16Z6u8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZUFS16Z6u8</a>

John Searl - SEG Story DVD Trailer P2 - yT Video
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjHnwPi6m3U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjHnwPi6m3U</a>

John Searl - SEG Story DVD Trailer P3 - yT Video
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAV7MBMe0uI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAV7MBMe0uI</a>

The John Searl Story
<a href="http://www.johnsearlstory.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnsearlstory.com</a>

The John Searl Story - Brief
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NuoViso
01-26-2008, 09:02 AM
www.nuoviso.com/movieDetail_freeenergy.htm - very interesting!

PurpleFicus
02-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Of course there's free energy, you see it in quantum foam. The basic forces of the universe are based on "free energy".

That we somehow can't take advantage of it on a macroscopic scale is frankly ridiculous, the existence of the universe itself is evidence of the natural bias of the universe toward positive energy at the macroscopic level.

The answer is to strip away the LIES AND THE FEAR-MONGERING. Take the profit back for the soul.

God sees them when they lie.

Delta
02-12-2008, 09:39 PM
You would need a huge funnel to colect it though!

Mr.NAFTA
11-07-2008, 01:15 AM
Hey I know this has been dead awhile. Well here is a video, don't worry you can skip the last part about ufo's and tesla. But what i thought was interesting was they talked early in it about a few of tesla's other designs, one being his free energy generator, now the claims are that these watt meters hooked up to every house are actually based off tesla's designs and are not meters at all but generators that power our homes on guess what? ya free energy. the reason i thought this was interesting is because this forum has some electricians in it, and i'm sure they can get ahold of these commerical devices, tinker with them, and see if they can do what the video claims.
GUBA - Nazi Ufos How They Fly (http://www.guba.com/watch/3000090135?duration_step=0&fields=23&filter_tiny=0&pp=40&query=nikola%20telsa%20anti-gravity&sb=10&set=-1&sf=0&size_step=0&o=6&sample=1226045200:5de149c69dfb88e00cb96396dbacae0b 641cd4c2)