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AnaA
03-28-2009, 01:23 PM
Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the same since the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001? - - we've experienced
catastrophic disasters from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires from drought, etc. on a scale never known before in all of history. Not
only that, but the greed and corruption that has been brought to light recently makes me and most others wonder what's become of this
nation and where is it heading.

I would not believe anything of this sort could or would happen if it wasn't written out so clearly about what's to come, but the evidence
is undeniable. Here's the forecast for OUR very near future.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ iDDD327_INDEX_21_____.html (http://www.theamericannightmare.org/1-DDD327.html)

Ana

Darth Cacodaemon
04-04-2009, 02:20 PM
Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the same since the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001? - - we've experienced
catastrophic disasters from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires from drought, etc. on a scale never known before in all of history. Not
only that, but the greed and corruption that has been brought to light recently makes me and most others wonder what's become of this
nation and where is it heading.

I would not believe anything of this sort could or would happen if it wasn't written out so clearly about what's to come, but the evidence
is undeniable. Here's the forecast for OUR very near future.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ iDDD327_INDEX_21_____.html (http://www.theamericannightmare.org/1-DDD327.html)

Ana

Ana, how do I tell you this. Hmm..ok, I guess I got to just come out and say it: You are insane. I hate to be rude, but it is obvious you're a religious fanatic who suffers from D.B.S.D (Delusional Belief System Disorder). You're disorder makes you believe that you're dead Jew god is going to do something for you.
I am sorry, but Jesus is dead and he is not coming back. Furthermore, whatever Fundy church you intend is full of horseshit and is nothing more then a cult of fanatics.
The Bible is an old book written by Jews who had a serious case of sun stroke and ignorance. They believed many things in their primitive ways, and most of it was horseshit. Remember anna, in those days an epileptic seizure was thought to be caused by a demon, because these primitive, superstitious, half-drunk Jews with sun stroke were taught by equally ignorant, drunk and superstious Rabbis that it was so.
The good news is the D.B.S.D IS treatable. Only you can free yourself from this load of horseshit.

BlueAngel
04-04-2009, 07:37 PM
Ana, how do I tell you this. Hmm..ok, I guess I got to just come out and say it: You are insane. I hate to be rude, but it is obvious you're a religious fanatic who suffers from D.B.S.D (Delusional Belief System Disorder). You're disorder makes you believe that you're dead Jew god is going to do something for you.
I am sorry, but Jesus is dead and he is not coming back. Furthermore, whatever Fundy church you intend is full of horseshit and is nothing more then a cult of fanatics.
The Bible is an old book written by Jews who had a serious case of sun stroke and ignorance. They believed many things in their primitive ways, and most of it was horseshit. Remember anna, in those days an epileptic seizure was thought to be caused by a demon, because these primitive, superstitious, half-drunk Jews with sun stroke were taught by equally ignorant, drunk and superstious Rabbis that it was so.
The good news is the D.B.S.D IS treatable. Only you can free yourself from this load of horseshit.

No need to hold back on your opinions.

:eek:

reptile
04-13-2009, 05:59 AM
Ime with Anna, she is absolutely correct in what she says, also ive noticed that British and American Governments have lowered their standards of common decency. Torture is being legitimized for one, torture was always condemned by Britain and America as barbaric, not so any more, they have both used it.

End of Days anyone?

AnaA
05-05-2009, 06:49 AM
You can sell tickets to it ...

"You can sell tickets to it ...," is a phrase used to assure someone
that a certain thing is going to happen or will get done. Here's a bit
of trivia for you as to where the phrase came from.

The early days prophet Jonah was told by God to prophesy that the
great city of Nineveh would be overthrown in 40 days. So, after
Jonah prophesied to the king of Nineveh, the king ordered all of his
people to give up their sins. Jonah had gone to the "outside" of the
city, set up a booth, and so-to-speak, began selling tickets to the
event of Nineveh being destroyed.

Jonah's prophecy of destruction in forty days never came to pass as
the people of Nineveh had repented. However, a few years later,
Nineveh once again turned from God, and it was then totally
destroyed. The story that Jonah actually sold tickets to the event
had never actually taken place. This part of Jonah's prophecy was
simply fabricated by modern day preachers so as to make the Book
of Jonah more interesting.

Modern preachers created the false teaching that, "If a person even
appears to make a mistake in their prophecies, they are a false
prophet," to discredit modern day prophets, so as to allow
preachers to escape God's scrutiny. The Book of Jonah however
proves that God does not always do as He tells His prophets to
prophesy. This fact makes it quite clear that modern day
preachers, knowing full well that is the case, simply fabricated the
false teaching that "prophets can never be wrong, otherwise they
are false prophets."

Whereas, God's purpose for having prophets has always been to
teach, or to otherwise correct the church. That is, to edify it, as an
editor corrects the copy in his newspaper. So, with today's "God
loves you, He will never do you harm, in fact, He wants you to be
rich" teachings in churches; pastors, preachers and teachers really
can't AFFORD to have their congregations listening to prophets, for
fear of being exposed for their own church's teaching of lies and
false doctrines.

Moreover, the fact that you hear a prophecy, then it doesn't come
to pass "on time," does NOT mean it won't come to pass... In fact,
that usually means nothing more than that your nation and its
people have been both warned, and advised, to get their act
together, and to KEEP it together, or suffer the consequences.

Ana

revolution60
11-08-2009, 10:51 PM
Ana, how do I tell you this. Hmm..ok, I guess I got to just come out and say it: You are insane. I hate to be rude, but it is obvious you're a religious fanatic who suffers from D.B.S.D (Delusional Belief System Disorder). You're disorder makes you believe that you're dead Jew god is going to do something for you.
I am sorry, but Jesus is dead and he is not coming back. Furthermore, whatever Fundy church you intend is full of horseshit and is nothing more then a cult of fanatics.
The Bible is an old book written by Jews who had a serious case of sun stroke and ignorance. They believed many things in their primitive ways, and most of it was horseshit. Remember anna, in those days an epileptic seizure was thought to be caused by a demon, because these primitive, superstitious, half-drunk Jews with sun stroke were taught by equally ignorant, drunk and superstious Rabbis that it was so.
The good news is the D.B.S.D IS treatable. Only you can free yourself from this load of horseshit.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif excellent..

AnaA
11-09-2009, 05:35 PM
It looks like the comfy place Christians have created with their imaginations is now reaping the worst imagined things of God.

______________GOD_BLESS_AMERICA_DDD.html (http://www.theamericannightmare.org/DISCERNMENT__GOD_BLESS_AMERICA-DDD.html)

Ana

Out of the Box
11-10-2009, 02:17 AM
I see three possible explanations :

these events (or some of them) are fabricated to tighten the grip of the federal government (and especially FEMA) on the US population.
there events (or some of them) are the consequence of a changing climate.
these events (or some of them) are the consequence of the dumbing down of the masses, leading to increasing stupidity and incompetence.

EireEngineer
11-10-2009, 08:14 AM
Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the same since the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001? - - we've experienced
catastrophic disasters from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires from drought, etc. on a scale never known before in all of history. Not
only that, but the greed and corruption that has been brought to light recently makes me and most others wonder what's become of this
nation and where is it heading.

I would not believe anything of this sort could or would happen if it wasn't written out so clearly about what's to come, but the evidence
is undeniable. Here's the forecast for OUR very near future.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ iDDD327_INDEX_21_____.html (http://www.theamericannightmare.org/1-DDD327.html)

Ana
What a gross overstatement. Natural disasters happen all the time, and there is nothing special about the ones we have had in recent years. Doom and gloomers aside, the Dust Bowl period was far worse.

Out of the Box
11-10-2009, 08:25 AM
What a gross overstatement. Natural disasters happen all the time, and there is nothing special about the ones we have had in recent years. Doom and gloomers aside, the Dust Bowl period was far worse.

Speaking of the Dust Bowl period, you should check out the 1943 issues of SS-publication "Germanische Leithefte" (http://www.archive.org/details/Ss-germanischeLeithefte). The one I own deals specifically with the US and contains an interesting article on the cause of the Dust Bowl as well as many articles on other American problems. It's very interesting if you want to get a different view of '30s and '40s USA.

EireEngineer
11-10-2009, 08:42 AM
Speaking of the Dust Bowl period, you should check out the 1943 issues of SS-publication "Germanische Leithefte" (http://www.archive.org/details/Ss-germanischeLeithefte). The one I own deals specifically with the US and contains an interesting article on the cause of the Dust Bowl as well as many articles on other American problems. It's very interesting if you want to get a different view of '30s and '40s USA.
Summarize for me, if you dont mind.

Out of the Box
11-10-2009, 09:11 AM
Summarize for me, if you dont mind.

With regards to the Dust Bowl, the SS was highly critical of American agriculture. They criticised American farmers for caring only about the high short term profits while ignoring the consequences this had to their lands and the environment. The explained that a more traditional way of farming (which included eg. an anual shift of crops and the use of hedges to reduce winds) as used in Germany provides lower short term profits but also allows the land to be used for decades (or even centuries) without any damage to the soil or the environment. The article was written by a German who'd spent some time on the American countryside both before and after it was hurt by the ust Bowl.

Other articles dealt with general politics, the American "melting pot", Jewish influence in the US, etc. I could look up some more details for you after the weekend if you're interested. I'll be staying with my GF until Sunday, so I won't have access to this booklet until then.

EireEngineer
11-11-2009, 12:31 PM
With regards to the Dust Bowl, the SS was highly critical of American agriculture. They criticised American farmers for caring only about the high short term profits while ignoring the consequences this had to their lands and the environment. The explained that a more traditional way of farming (which included eg. an anual shift of crops and the use of hedges to reduce winds) as used in Germany provides lower short term profits but also allows the land to be used for decades (or even centuries) without any damage to the soil or the environment. The article was written by a German who'd spent some time on the American countryside both before and after it was hurt by the ust Bowl.

Other articles dealt with general politics, the American "melting pot", Jewish influence in the US, etc. I could look up some more details for you after the weekend if you're interested. I'll be staying with my GF until Sunday, so I won't have access to this booklet until then.
That is pretty much the American assessment of what happened during the dust bowl too. FYI. The History Channel recently did a great documentary on it.

Eye-Kon
11-12-2009, 01:58 AM
Is it just me or do only like 3 or 4 people actually post on this site? Forum spammers ruin sites like this.

EireEngineer
11-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Is it just me or do only like 3 or 4 people actually post on this site? Forum spammers ruin sites like this.
I guess it depends on what you mean by spam. It does seem like it is only a handfull of us on here.

xbluudevilx
11-12-2009, 08:44 AM
America been screwed.

Out of the Box
11-12-2009, 09:32 AM
That is pretty much the American assessment of what happened during the dust bowl too.

I just wonder how long it took before the US government figured that out. You can say about the Nazis what you want, but they would never have allowed such foolish policies as the sort of policies that lead to the Dust Bowl in the first place. They put a lot of effort in agricultural development and the long term sustenance thereof.

FYI. The History Channel recently did a great documentary on it.

Thanks for the recommendation. I prefer sources from the era itself, though. They tend to be more accurate ;)

Is it just me or do only like 3 or 4 people actually post on this site?

It's been very quiet for a while now. :(

EireEngineer
11-12-2009, 10:11 AM
I just wonder how long it took before the US government figured that out. You can say about the Nazis what you want, but they would never have allowed such foolish policies as the sort of policies that lead to the Dust Bowl in the first place. They put a lot of effort in agricultural development and the long term sustenance thereof.



Thanks for the recommendation. I prefer sources from the era itself, though. They tend to be more accurate ;)



It's been very quiet for a while now. :(
Well, it was the FDR administration for most of it, so he was probably too busy with jailing butchers for selling too cheaply, packing the court, and trying to set a 100% marginal tax rate at $25,000.

Out of the Box
11-12-2009, 10:41 AM
Well, it was the FDR administration for most of it, so he was probably too busy with jailing butchers for selling too cheaply, packing the court, and trying to set a 100% marginal tax rate at $25,000.

I bet the real reason is the fact that the US is an individualist nation where making short term profit has been a primary motive since the beginning, unlike older Eurasian cultures where other motives have always been more important (although it is worth noting that unfortunately European and Asian countries are copying the malign American ways).

EireEngineer
11-12-2009, 12:29 PM
I bet the real reason is the fact that the US is an individualist nation where making short term profit has been a primary motive since the beginning, unlike older Eurasian cultures where other motives have always been more important (although it is worth noting that unfortunately European and Asian countries are copying the malign American ways).
Ah yes...Europeans are so much more enlightened....
I have lived in both systems, and I can tell you that it is much more preferable to live in a society where individualism is promoted, than in one where you have to queue up for everything without hope for escape.

Out of the Box
11-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Ah yes...Europeans are so much more enlightened....

Naaah... Europeans are fools too. Americans are just even more ignorant than Europeans ;)

I have lived in both systems, and I can tell you that it is much more preferable to live in a society where individualism is promoted, than in one where you have to queue up for everything without hope for escape.

Again, you're talking in black-vs-white. I prefer a shade of grey you've probably never even considered.

EireEngineer
11-12-2009, 01:40 PM
Naaah... Europeans are fools too. Americans are just even more ignorant than Europeans ;)

No argument from me there, given the liberal monopoly on our school system here.


Again, you're talking in black-vs-white. I prefer a shade of grey you've probably never even considered.
No, even in the American system, it is not pure free market capitalism, for obvious reasons. But at the margin it is a system that provides far greater personal liberty at the expense of requiring greater personal responsibility, and that, at least to me, makes it preferable to socialism. As you said before, many are milking your system as well.

Out of the Box
11-13-2009, 03:55 AM
No, even in the American system, it is not pure free market capitalism, for obvious reasons. But at the margin it is a system that provides far greater personal liberty at the expense of requiring greater personal responsibility, and that, at least to me, makes it preferable to socialism. As you said before, many are milking your system as well.

I hate the fact that many thousands are milking my system without ever having contributed anything to it, but when I became a victim of the economic crisis and had to manage without a job for 6 months I was glad the system at least allowed me to pay the bills during those 6 months without going into debt.

Also, where the EU uses censorship to silence people, the US uses various types of peer pressure to achieve the same result. If you hold a controversial opinion, pressure groups can and will do everything they can to destroy your social life, your income and in some cases your freedom. While the US once used to be a land of freedom and prosperity, this has all changed since the late 19th century and it has now become the land of forced conformity. In fact, the entire concepts of political correctness, multi-culturalism and other mind-numbing concepts orriginated within the US and were merely exported to Europe about a decade later. This is one of the many American imports in my land that I strongly object to and blame 64 years of neo-imperialism for.

EireEngineer
11-13-2009, 08:40 AM
I hate the fact that many thousands are milking my system without ever having contributed anything to it, but when I became a victim of the economic crisis and had to manage without a job for 6 months I was glad the system at least allowed me to pay the bills during those 6 months without going into debt.

Also, where the EU uses censorship to silence people, the US uses various types of peer pressure to achieve the same result. If you hold a controversial opinion, pressure groups can and will do everything they can to destroy your social life, your income and in some cases your freedom. While the US once used to be a land of freedom and prosperity, this has all changed since the late 19th century and it has now become the land of forced conformity. In fact, the entire concepts of political correctness, multi-culturalism and other mind-numbing concepts orriginated within the US and were merely exported to Europe about a decade later. This is one of the many American imports in my land that I strongly object to and blame 64 years of neo-imperialism for.
OK, it took me a few minutes to stop laughing. Sorry. Who would have thought we would agree on something? Ok, point by point.

What you have noticed is the prime moral hazard that all far reaching social welfare programs run into: the prime motivation of humans. If something is going to be given out for "free" (at least free to the recipient), then there is no motivation for them to do anything but stay on the dole. If the government is going to just hand it out, hells yeah I am going to just do that. There is a free-market alternative to government wealth redistribution, but I am curious to see if you can reason out what it is?

And I will agree that liberal political correctness has run amok in this country, but I dont think that it has quite the far reaching ramifications here that you think it does. I am a very non-PC, individualist, conservative, and I hardly hide my views, nor feel the need to. Though I did have some chick attack me in the Peoples Republic of Boulder the other day because I was reading a Glenn Beck book, lol. The fact that political correctness has not become so ingrained in the US is probably due to the accepted practice of individualism. If things have gotten that bad over there, maybe it is because of the continental European lack of spine. As for the neo-imperialism shot....I dont seem to remember there being any bases in the Benelux. Just kidding. I am sure our media has an even more profound effect on the tender sensibilities of Europeans, so its not surprising. That's ok though, when all of the Muslim immigrants rise up and kill you all, and under Sharia law no less, you wont have to worry about such things, lol.

Out of the Box
11-13-2009, 02:08 PM
OK, it took me a few minutes to stop laughing. Sorry. Who would have thought we would agree on something?

Well, I am called "Out of the Box", right? My views don't fit into the traditional left-right spectrum, so it was only a matter of time before we found a view we shared :D

If something is going to be given out for "free" (at least free to the recipient), then there is no motivation for them to do anything but stay on the dole. If the government is going to just hand it out, hells yeah I am going to just do that. There is a free-market alternative to government wealth redistribution, but I am curious to see if you can reason out what it is?

Libertarians seem to believe that laissez-faire capitalism will eventually lead to fair wages and solidarity as too no one would want to work for a company paying too little and a too broad underclass wouldn't provide enough consumers to actually buy their products, but the example of 19th century Western-Europe (which was pretty close to laissez-faire capitalism) shows the exact oposite. Unions and unemployment benefits were created precisely because Dickensian Europe allowed a tiny upper class to exploit a huge underclass (with little to no middle class). A re-establishment of laissez-faire capitalism in the future is likely to repeat this.

And I will agree that liberal political correctness has run amok in this country, but I dont think that it has quite the far reaching ramifications here that you think it does.

I encourage you read The Diversity Myth (the book I'm currently reading). It explains how the level of education at Stanford dropped significantly precisely due to a radical left agenda of multi-culturalism from 1986 onwards (of course, besides ruining the curriculum it also brainwashed entire generations of students). Although none of the other universities deteriorated at the same rate, the process also happened at other universities.

I am a very non-PC, individualist, conservative, and I hardly hide my views, nor feel the need to.

I'm a very non-PC, semi-collectivist, paleo-conservative and I must hide many of my views everywhere besides among my inner circle of friends.

The fact that political correctness has not become so ingrained in the US is probably due to the accepted practice of individualism. If things have gotten that bad over there, maybe it is because of the continental European lack of spine.

You mean the tendency of the European masses to accept totalitarianism in return for a social security system. I'm sure this plays along, however that doesn't change the fact that political correctness and multiculturalism were imported from the US.

As for the neo-imperialism shot....I dont seem to remember there being any bases in the Benelux.

First of all, neo-imperialism is economic and not military.

Second, we do have US bases in my country :p

That's ok though, when all of the Muslim immigrants rise up and kill you all, and under Sharia law no less, you wont have to worry about such things, lol.

I hope my countrymen will wake up before that can happen....

EireEngineer
11-13-2009, 05:10 PM
Well, I am called "Out of the Box", right? My views don't fit into the traditional left-right spectrum, so it was only a matter of time before we found a view we shared :D
Yeah, actually we probably share a few.


Libertarians seem to believe that laissez-faire capitalism will eventually lead to fair wages and solidarity as too no one would want to work for a company paying too little and a too broad underclass wouldn't provide enough consumers to actually buy their products, but the example of 19th century Western-Europe (which was pretty close to laissez-faire capitalism) shows the exact oposite. Unions and unemployment benefits were created precisely because Dickensian Europe allowed a tiny upper class to exploit a huge underclass (with little to no middle class). A re-establishment of laissez-faire capitalism in the future is likely to repeat this.
Well...first of all, I am anything BUT a libertarian. So no, I certainly do not believe that laissez-faire policies are the answer, nor has any such system ever existed in practice, even in 19th century Western Europe. There have to be some common sense regulations, and to overstate my position as such is a ludicrous straw man. The debate, at least here in the US, is about the relative role of government at the margin. Liberals want marginally more government influence, conservatives marginally less. It has nothing to do with "fair" compensation or "solidarity", as if such a realization were ever possible. In any fairly substantial population there are going to be a wide array of differing viewpoints.
As for unions, their origin indeed does stem from the excesses of the burgeoning Industrial Revolution, an event that singularly changed the nature and structure of economies in a rapid fashion. In the US, industrialists could take advantage of the large immigrant work force, and did often. However, times change. We now have a plethora of government agencies and regulations that prevent, or at least mitigate, many if not all of the reasons unions formed in the first place. The primary effect unions have now is to unreasonable increase compensation for their members while at the same time reducing their productivity.



I encourage you read The Diversity Myth (the book I'm currently reading). It explains how the level of education at Stanford dropped significantly precisely due to a radical left agenda of multi-culturalism from 1986 onwards (of course, besides ruining the curriculum it also brainwashed entire generations of students). Although none of the other universities deteriorated at the same rate, the process also happened at other universities.
No arguments from me there. The political correct movement is certainly one of the most damaging concepts ever to be introduced into the political discussion. Thankfully, it has not stiffled thought in the US to the extent that it sounds like it has in your country. That was the only point I was making


I'm a very non-PC, semi-collectivist, paleo-conservative and I must hide many of my views everywhere besides among my inner circle of friends.
Semi-colectivist but paleo-conservative? Sounds like a contradiction in terms on this side of the pond.


You mean the tendency of the European masses to accept totalitarianism in return for a social security system. I'm sure this plays along, however that doesn't change the fact that political correctness and multiculturalism were imported from the US. Blame the Dominant Liberal Establishment Mass Media for that one.



First of all, neo-imperialism is economic and not military.

Second, we do have US bases in my country :p

Must be Holland then. Gotta love the Dutch, lol

I hope my countrymen will wake up before that can happen....
Me too.

Out of the Box
11-14-2009, 11:37 AM
Well...first of all, I am anything BUT a libertarian. So no, I certainly do not believe that laissez-faire policies are the answer, nor has any such system ever existed in practice, even in 19th century Western Europe.

True, however Dickensian society was probably closer to laissez-faire capitalism than any other Western society.

Liberals want marginally more government influence, conservatives marginally less. [...] In any fairly substantial population there are going to be a wide array of differing viewpoints.

... which shows how ridiculous the whole republican-vs-democrat distinction is. You're basically choosing between a standard pizza with little cheese and a standard pizza with a lot of cheese. Your whole two-party-system is just a cherade to uphold the illusion of political freedom...

In the US, industrialists could take advantage of the large immigrant work force, and did often.

The same happened in Western-Europe, although it wasn't until the 1960s that large scale immigration became common due to governmental regulations that made it easier.

The primary effect unions have now is to unreasonable increase compensation for their members while at the same time reducing their productivity.

... or organising strikes when they're really uncalled for.


The political correct movement is certainly one of the most damaging concepts ever to be introduced into the political discussion. Thankfully, it has not stiffled thought in the US to the extent that it sounds like it has in your country.

I guess it depends on where you live. I can imagine there's a huge difference whether you live in San Fransisco or New York compared with eg. some village in Montana or Milwaukee ;)

Semi-colectivist but paleo-conservative? Sounds like a contradiction in terms on this side of the pond.

My main influences are French counter-revolutionary thinkers like Charles Maurras, German conservative-revolutionary thinkers like Martin Heidegger or Dietrich Eckart, metaphysician like Julius Evola and René Guénon and post-war third positionists like Alain de Benoist, Tomislav Sunic and Troy Southgate.

Blame the Dominant Liberal Establishment Mass Media for that one.

Obviously...

Must be Holland then. Gotta love the Dutch, lol

The Dutch are OK, though a bit too uncultivated for my taste. I actually live in Flanders (Dutch-speaking part of Belgium).

Pruner Man
01-31-2010, 09:52 PM
Ana, how do I tell you this. Hmm..ok, I guess I got to just come out and say it: You are insane. I hate to be rude, but it is obvious you're a religious fanatic who suffers from D.B.S.D (Delusional Belief System Disorder). You're disorder makes you believe that you're dead Jew god is going to do something for you.
I am sorry, but Jesus is dead and he is not coming back. Furthermore, whatever Fundy church you intend is full of horseshit and is nothing more then a cult of fanatics.
The Bible is an old book written by Jews who had a serious case of sun stroke and ignorance. They believed many things in their primitive ways, and most of it was horseshit. Remember anna, in those days an epileptic seizure was thought to be caused by a demon, because these primitive, superstitious, half-drunk Jews with sun stroke were taught by equally ignorant, drunk and superstious Rabbis that it was so.
The good news is the D.B.S.D IS treatable. Only you can free yourself from this load of horseshit.

ha ha
YOU ARE PITIFUL

reaper
05-06-2010, 04:34 AM
911 was not a terrorist attack. that was the former US government being used against us. it is now illuminati government. we are under attack from our own government, or what used to be ours. now all the vast weapons are now turned upon us for sport?

reaper
05-06-2010, 09:26 PM
update. its ELE ... i mean the partial collapse of the magnetic field coinciding with the peaking of solar flairs. So govmt is building large bunkers for illuminati only and the rest of us get to fry or broil. disaster set for 12/21/2012, just like Mayan calendar...so how the heck did the mayas know about this? all the fema trains for hauling people to fema camps...that's all for ELE...has nothing to do with tea parties. Have the illuminati been around that long...are the mayas ancestors? what do u think...

cyberclops
05-22-2010, 09:07 PM
I've noticed they put less pork in my pork&beans these days, the aluminati are hording the pork.:eek:

ibeme
05-24-2010, 01:52 PM
The fact that your all still being patriotic and such and that you think all mouslims are gunna come steal your countrys is so ignorant to the fact that we are all on the same boat and we are ALL geting fucked.

FallaciesAbound
05-28-2010, 10:50 AM
The fact that your all still being patriotic and such and that you think all mouslims are gunna come steal your countrys is so ignorant to the fact that we are all on the same boat and we are ALL geting fucked.
I find it funny that someone who uses "mouslims", "gunna", and spells getting with one T has the balls to call another poster ignorant.:D

That aside, the chain of events leading up to and the ultimate causation for our little tiff with the radical Muslims is so clear even children can see it. If you think rationally that is.:eek:

ibeme
05-28-2010, 09:56 PM
I find it funny that someone who uses "mouslims", "gunna", and spells getting with one T has the balls to call another poster ignorant.:D

That aside, the chain of events leading up to and the ultimate causation for our little tiff with the radical Muslims is so clear even children can see it. If you think rationally that is.:eek:

you seem to be confuseing spelling with wisdom. Being a good speller means just that.....your a good speller. Dont try the high ground on something that has little relivance to anything. There is no need to push your insecuritys about how everything must be perfect on me or use it as a means to make my voice seem to have any less say. I could use spell check yes but truth is right now I cant be bothered and Im sure you can understand me.

You seem to forget that throughout history and still to this day us white people have been the ones starting wars and shreading blood. And that the Christian Religioun has actualy started more wars and taken more lives then any force I can think of. Still countries such as America use God and Religioun to justify there actions...."God Bless America....God Bless America.....In God We trust". In Gods name they start wars, make deals, construct stratagies, keeps secrets, tell lies, and wipe there ass with the debts of your grandchildren. Thousands of blind religious Americans are highly patriotic and would follow there country to the end. They seem to believe they are the chosen ones. The light, the good, the saviours of the world. Mindless sheep following a regime they dont understand with the reasurance that God is with them and looking out for them and that all things happen for a reason.

Now im not saying that the Mouslim religoun is any better then the christian one. And im sure there are bad Mouslims around who proberly do wana do bad things to some western countires or such and hell who can blame them...from the society they would of grown up in it would be easy to see why they might hate western culture.....or be naeve enough to get talked into something, hell I hate it.....we are in a place where movie stars and pop idols are worshiped....inteligence is looked down on within our youth....thinking for your self or outside the box is deemed insanity and if you dont conform with society you are outcasted from it. What im saying is that they are no difrent to most people in this world. Most people in this world are blind or asleep. Most people are still ignorant to think that it actualy makes a difrence where you come from. Most people would still argue "my country better then yours"....shit get over your selvs your country is in the same fucked up hole as us all and chances are if its western its one of the countrys in controle of and who create this fucked up system in which we all suffer.

FallaciesAbound
05-29-2010, 08:40 AM
You obviously never read the history of how Islam expanded.....through war.

As for your rather racist assertion that only white people start wars, even a cursory study of history will tell you that is hardly the case. The Japanese, Chinese, Scythians, Mayans, Toltecs, Maori, Plains Indian Tribes, and Zulus were fierce warriors that dominated the territory around them. What Europeans brought to the table was mostly a matter of geography and adoption. Armed with this advantage, its no wonder Europe turned into the colonial power it did, as the Romans and Mongols.

I will give you this. Organized religion has been one of the most detrimental forces on human history, and at the top of the list has to be the Catholic Church, followed closely by Islam and Judaism.

ibeme
05-29-2010, 08:59 AM
You obviously never read the history of how Islam expanded.....through war.

As for your rather racist assertion that only white people start wars, even a cursory study of history will tell you that is hardly the case. The Japanese, Chinese, Scythians, Mayans, Toltecs, Maori, Plains Indian Tribes, and Zulus were fierce warriors that dominated the territory around them. What Europeans brought to the table was mostly a matter of geography and adoption. Armed with this advantage, its no wonder Europe turned into the colonial power it did, as the Romans and Mongols.

I will give you this. Organized religion has been one of the most detrimental forces on human history, and at the top of the list has to be the Catholic Church, followed closely by Islam and Judaism.

I never said only white people start wars...that wasnt what I was saying at all. For one I am white. What I was trying to demonstrate is white, black, brown, christian, mouslim, jewdism doesnt make a difrence...and right now in history the west is the main course of war and has the main say throughout the world and it is our own goverments and our own ignorance that we should proberly fear more then anything else.

Realisticly though we should fear nothing.....it is the fear its self that controles us.....its the fear that mouslims are in our countrys ploting to overthrow us that controles you.

jane doe
05-29-2010, 01:26 PM
Fear and ignorance share similiar traits.

FallaciesAbound
05-29-2010, 05:29 PM
True, they do go hand in hand. Ibeme must be a really fearful guy lol.

Oh, an Ibeme....Im not terribly worried about the Muslims taking over any time soon. If my skinny ass can kill 30 of them, nearly anybody can.

ibeme
06-02-2010, 08:29 PM
True, they do go hand in hand. Ibeme must be a really fearful guy lol.

Oh, an Ibeme....Im not terribly worried about the Muslims taking over any time soon. If my skinny ass can kill 30 of them, nearly anybody can.

i know that everything is me and i am everything so to me being scared of your self sounds slightly paranoier.

even those of the world i would call idiots are just difrent perspectives of my own consiousness and i hold no one realy responsible for there own fucked up views. I to know that I am proberly wrong about alot of things and in many cases i may be the idiot. its to be exspected

FallaciesAbound
06-03-2010, 08:26 AM
HUH?:rolleyes:

ibeme
06-03-2010, 08:34 AM
HUH?:rolleyes:

Huh

Huh

Huh

FallaciesAbound
06-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Maybe you should change your browser? It may make things more readable. I think I get what you are saying though.

Sentrynox
06-06-2010, 11:43 PM
Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the same since the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001? - - we've experienced
catastrophic disasters from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires from drought, etc. on a scale never known before in all of history. Not
only that, but the greed and corruption that has been brought to light recently makes me and most others wonder what's become of this
nation and where is it heading.

I would not believe anything of this sort could or would happen if it wasn't written out so clearly about what's to come, but the evidence
is undeniable. Here's the forecast for OUR very near future.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ iDDD327_INDEX_21_____.html (http://www.theamericannightmare.org/1-DDD327.html)

Ana

Yes you are right! The world powers are shifting big time, heres why:
Read the complete article on that blog (full text and links):
The Global Carbon market Conspiracy to privatize the ownership of planetary life « Geopolitics News (http://geopoliticsnews.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/the-global-carbon-market-conspiracy-to-privatize-the-ownership-of-planetary-life/)

After surfing the world news on and off for many years, I came to feel emerging the big picture of something huge unfolding! The recent events have confirmed me that we are coming to the climax of the world biggest conspiracy to see the light in Human History!

The recent climatic woes in the US, China, Russia and Europe have put the world focus on climate changes. During that period we saw 2 global carbon market summits in December 2009 and later on in Copenhagen. Both summits failed to set up a carbon market across the globe, mainly because of China and Russia oppositions. In fact the global carbon market is already in place since Kyoto, but not all countries have signed it while others have only partial limitations due to their lower economic status (like China), and this global market is seen as the solution that the world needs to fight climatic changes, since it sets, for now, a cap on CO2 emissions and creates a market for those who can save on their emissions, while others can’t (so they buy from others that have saved their carbon emission), thus creating in fact a new economic model that can offset the fossil fuels consumptions, mainly seen as the culprit behind our global climate changes.

So basically this is what the carbon market is all about… But for those who can anticipate the future, this is a huge Trojan horse! Actually this market grows every year to between 68% and 90% since 2006. It has reach more than 200 billions across the world, and is poised to grow much much bigger very fast! Why? Simply because carbon market is not all about fossils fuels, it is all about our planet ecosystem! Because CO2 is the exhausted of ALL life on Earth… In fact here’s the definition of CO2:

Carbon dioxide (CO2) is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars, which may either be consumed in respiration or used as the raw material to produce other organic compounds needed for plant growth and development. It is produced during respiration by plants, and by all animals, fungi and microorganisms that depend either directly or indirectly on plants for food. It is thus a major component of thecarbon cycle. Carbon dioxide is generated as a by-product of the combustion of fossil fuels or the burning of vegetable matter, among other chemical processes. Amounts of carbon dioxide are emitted fromvolcanoes and other geothermal processes such as hot springs and geysers and by the dissolution of carbonates in crustal rocks.

So the carbon market appear to be the blue prints of the monetization of our planet ecosystem, since everything that breath is liable to enter that market sooner or later! And even worst, it will in the end set a price for ALL life on Earth, which means that the world richest peoples will be capable to purchase ALL life on Earth and becomes the private owners of all living things on Earth! It will in effect unite the world, but in order for private investors to own our planet, they need to get rid of the U.N (because it is our governments that lead the U.N not the private sector)!! Thats where the conspiracy takes an interesting turn, especially now!

The South Korean Cheonan corvette sunk allegedly by North Korea torpedo, is now subject of much world scrutiny! In fact Seoul just submit to the U.N a resolution pushing them to punish North Korea, which in turn have warned of a war on the Korean peninsula if the UN was used to punish them (seen as provocation).

So whats the purpose of this event in relation with carbon market? Well, left alone it is not really that important, but another event needs to be introduced, so you will see the complete picture of what is really happening here!

The Gaza blockade which has caused the raid on the Humanitarian ship has bring upon Israel calls for a full UN inquiry of the incident which happens in international water.

Then of course we have the U.S that are still pushing the Iranian issue to the U.N for new sanction to be held against the Teheran regime.

All in all, it is a pretty busy week for the U.N! And as events will unfold soon, for everyone to see, those events will shape the future of our world! The challenges ahead for the U.N to make the right decisions are huge, because the main purpose for the creation of the U.N is to enforce world peace, thus if it fails to do that, it serves no purpose to maintain its current structure! One must understand that the current carbon market is being built under the UN leaderships and needs its approval to expend! But the last two summits have failed to create a global concensus, thus putting pressures on the conspiracy leaders to push even further their plan to spread their influences and this carbon market to all world countries. But this can’t be done with a solid UN leadership in place! So those conspiracy leaders seeks to undermine this UN leadership, by making it fail its mandate! Many Americans resent the powers of the UN and it can be clearly felt in the medias that they do seek to get rid of it!

In order to break the UN back, both at home and abroad a series of incidents are planned to make this happens! In Israel, the UN leadership can be mislead in many ways, either by asking the removal of the Gaza blockade or by the probing of the Israeli raid, which could bring the Israeli on the back of the UN and go for a kill (because it is no secret that Israel hates the UN, and never respected their leaderships). Actually the ways that this situation may affect the U.N leaderships are numerous, because everything that will touch Israel security can easily backfire on the U.N since for example, if it forces the end of the Gaza blockade, this might allow the Hamas to bring a bomb or two and attack Israel with it, causing very large causalities, and putting this region ablaze. So in many ways, this could backfire and the U.N leaderships blamed for it! So it is even more evident in the Korean peninsula, since the situation is really dire! If Seoul succeeds to push sanctions against the North, the region might see a war erupt, therefore the U.N would have failed to bring back peace in that part of the world too! Lets not talk about Iran… That too could easily backfire.

In other words, what we see here, seems to be events that have been engineered by globalist elite to bring down the U.N leaderships to its knees and discredits its power in front of the rest of the world! It might not be dismantle, but countries won’t trust its leadership and its structure anymore, thus they might not hesitate jumping in the Global Carbon market bandwagon without the U.N Spearheading. The offer has already been set, but now the only thing missing is a set of major leaderships failures from the U.N!

In case of doubts, many begin to feel that the Cheonan attack might be in fact a false flag operation lead by the US, that was participating in a joint anti-sub exercise with the South Korea just few miles away, the same DAY! Then, the Humanitarian raid, could have been easily anticipated by this elite, knowing full well the Israeli reactions to such provocations. Even the Israeli have seen this as a pure provocations even before the raid occurrance! As for Iran situation, it has lingered at the helm of the U.N leadership for a very long time, and US patience is running thin, but they can’t afford yet another war without the support of the U.N (like it was the case in Irak). So they need to scrap U.N support at home to wage another war with Iran. Things that is slowly happening. So it appears that this conspiracy helps the global elite on 2 fronts, one to take control of the world by private means, using the carbon market as proxy and the other, to bring Iran to the knees of world elite by military powers (that requires population supports).

Out of the Box
06-07-2010, 12:58 AM
That aside, the chain of events leading up to and the ultimate causation for our little tiff with the radical Muslims is so clear even children can see it. If you think rationally that is.:eek:

It's quite obvious indeed. The imperialist US government desired control of Middle-East oil fields and increased security for the racist and oppressive little Jewish state. They engineered a "clash of civilisations" for this purpose.

You obviously never read the history of how Islam expanded.....through war.

So did Christians... and Jews gained their power by letting others fight wars for them... which is precisely what is happening now.

I will give you this. Organized religion has been one of the most detrimental forces on human history, and at the top of the list has to be the Catholic Church, followed closely by Islam and Judaism.

Actually, Judaism has been far worse than Islam and Catholicism. The key to understanding the upcoming collapse of Western society is understanding Judaism.

FallaciesAbound
06-15-2010, 01:22 AM
Ahh yes, because for you the JEWS DID EVERYTHING!!!! lol The Catholic Church controlled millions of people in Europe when they were at their worst. What is the most the Jews controlled?

Out of the Box
06-15-2010, 04:05 AM
Ahh yes, because for you the JEWS DID EVERYTHING!!!!

They played an increasing role in Western society from the Renaissance onwards and today dominate it entirely

The Catholic Church controlled millions of people in Europe when they were at their worst.

Not coincidentally, this was the era Western-European Jews were the least powerful. As the Jews increased their power the Catholic Church gradually lost its power.

What is the most the Jews controlled?

Today, they control all of Western civilisation and significant parts of the rest of the world. Their number may be small but that doesn't mean a thing. All it takes to run the world is to take key positions in finance, politics and various fields of industry and Jews have been very succesful in that.

12oclock
06-23-2010, 03:57 AM
They played an increasing role in Western society from the Renaissance onwards and today dominate it entirely



Not coincidentally, this was the era Western-European Jews were the least powerful. As the Jews increased their power the Catholic Church gradually lost its power.



Today, they control all of Western civilisation and significant parts of the rest of the world. Their number may be small but that doesn't mean a thing. All it takes to run the world is to take key positions in finance, politics and various fields of industry and Jews have been very succesful in that.
The Jews had nothing really to do with this ongoing controversial issue.

Out of the Box
06-23-2010, 04:03 AM
They played an increasing role in Western society from the Renaissance onwards and today dominate it entirely

Not coincidentally, this was the era Western-European Jews were the least powerful. As the Jews increased their power the Catholic Church gradually lost its power.

Today, they control all of Western civilisation and significant parts of the rest of the world. Their number may be small but that doesn't mean a thing. All it takes to run the world is to take key positions in finance, politics and various fields of industry and Jews have been very succesful in that.
The Jews had nothing really to do with this ongoing controversial issue.

Scientific research leaves no doubt about the fact that they played not just a significant role but a key role. Numerous works have been published pointing out this fact, referencing Jewish, Zionist, Arab, Catholic, Christian-Orthodox, Communist, Conservative, Anarchist and various other perspectives throughout history. A work I found expecially interesting was Kevin MacDonald's "Culture of Critique", using almost entirely Jewish sources to point out their importance in 20th century socio-political changes.

jrwild
07-21-2010, 01:14 PM
Hello, newbie here. I like to think I'm picking up where I left off on the last conspiracy forum that has since disappered into thin air.

It all began about 3 months ago when someone sent me an Alex Jones video. I had no idea what the Bilderburgs, NWO, or FEMA was all about.
In a post on this thread, someone was called a DBSD. Basically a paraniod Christian person. I and definately NOT religious at all. Paranoid maybe.

I'd like some feed back on this subject. Does anyone else out there have concerns about the NWO, FEMA and the direction everything is going? I am convinced that 9-11 was a false flag. Kind of obvious at this point. I see many suggestions that another false flag is on the way and very soon.

It's all getting a little scarry. Jim

BlueAngel
07-21-2010, 09:03 PM
What's happening to America?

From what I can tell, an impoverished nation, no doubt.

MR X
08-14-2010, 11:45 PM
The group of beings in control have no ties to religious, political, financial, and scientific parties, unless you count them controlling them.

Saying any religion is in control of anything other than deception is silly.

To say that one political puppet or the other is a puppet is silly... they all are.

To say that a certain bank owner is evil and greedy is silly, they all are.

To say that certain scientific mysteries are kept from the public is silly, only certain things are told to the public, the rest is swept under the rug.

The reality of the matter is there exists a group that uses mind control, silent war tactics, and confusion as its tools for domination. They have been at work for many generations and need to be stopped. We won't stop them until we wake up so we can see them for who they are. All this finger pointing at groups of people, lumping them all into a category and sending negative energy their way..... It's destructive to not only them, but to all of us and most important YOU!

Wake up people! Don't listen to the views of the media and your neighbors! Find out all the facts for yourself, then see what you think. Allow others to have their own opinions as well, even if they conflict with yours.

The biggest problem this country has is the FEDERAL RESERVE. Our government is supposed to print our money, yet a few of the major bank owners got together secretly to make a deal. Now our government allows a private company to print our money at a cost to our taxpayers. Problem is if 1 dollar costs a few cents to print, where do we get the few cents? Pretty soon we are in debt over our heads as a nation, but at least we have plenty of paper money in circulation right?

Fix this problem like Andrew Jackson did, abolish the Federal Reserve! Once the central banking system falls, the same evil tyrants will come back trying to assert control by other means. That's when you point them out for what they are in public so we all can see. Lets Stand up and do something! Stop the corruption, control, fear, hate, mind control, poverty, forced dehumanization.

MR X

jane doe
08-15-2010, 09:28 AM
Jackson also created suffering. It is difficult to pick and choose qualities of people which we enjoy and empower to only allow them to create suffering in other areas.

Indian Removal Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act)

MR X
08-15-2010, 11:14 AM
No one is "perfect" firstly. Second, isn't evolving as a species our main goal? If so, wouldn't it make sense to find what works best and use that, while discarding what doesn't?

If that's true then can we not bring down the Fed Reserve and end suffering at the same time?

If we have anything to learn from the past, its that violence and suffering can be avoided. Why not employ the proper tactics to get the desired results?

Or is it easier to point fingers at people who did great things in the past for our country, and list their mistakes as a means to discredit the good they accomplished?

Some people did great things that had many great effects and some terrible effects as well. Can we not as a species, decide to use what went right and discard the things we know to cause suffering?

There is always a way to deal with things where all parties involved make sacrifices, when greed and fear are shelved we will evolve.

I'm not by any means saying you should worship Andrew Jackson, instead I am asking you to research why he did what he did and how it worked. Then think about how you and the people you know can incorporate the same tactics to help our Nation rid itself of Aristocratic rule.

MR X

jane doe
08-15-2010, 06:48 PM
I forgot about Aristotle's contribution. The populous is not allowed to argue now.