View Full Version : Michael Jackson is dead - Part of an ongoing surreptitious war?

Fahrenheit 912
06-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Governor Mark Sanford, head of the Republican governor's association, is now embroiled and being humiliated in a trumped-up sex scandal, probably initiated by Democratic operatives in order to further weaken an already devastated Republican Party. In retaliation, right wing goons decide to bump off Michael Jackson, a media GIANT poised to make a comeback, and in the process divert attention away from the ongoing scandal, and in a certain way, get even with the American public for turning the government Democratic. This sounds pretty "off the wall," I'm sure, but as I see it, this seems to be pretty much the way things work in this day and time. It's all part of an ongoing surreptitious war being waged by opposing political forces in this country, played out largely in the media, involving - but not limited to - political humiliation and destruction, murder, mass murder, artificially induced illnesses and plagues (cancers, heart attacks, Swine flu, and AIDS), and (most unbelievably) man-made natural disasters...It's time the American people were made aware of the nature of the government in this country, or at least certain pathological elements within it, and that these elements be identified and forever purged from it...

Fahrenheit 912
06-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Respectfully, you don't seem to understand the way things are politically played out in this media culture...Take two or three good steps back from your television screen, and you"ll get a broader picture of what's really going on... It's not a very pretty picture.

Fahrenheit 912
06-28-2009, 12:08 AM
Look, the fact that Gov. Sanford had an extramarital affair is not/ should not be an issue under normal circumstances. It doesn't qualify for the attention it has been getting in the press. The fact that someone has made it an issue IS significant. The question is WHO has made it an issue... and WHY has it been made an issue...? for political reasons? I think so. Gov. Sanford was the conservative head of the Republican Governor"s association - a self professed "born again" Christian, and a likely candidate for president in 2012. His political stature and career have been assaulted....likely by the same sort of sleazy political element that would have led to the sex-charged downfalls of Elliot Spitzer and John Edwards, two promising Democratic presidential hopefuls. An eye for an eye - as far as the Democrats were concerned. But the conservative Republicans on the far right are a much more insidious breed. They understand full well the utility of the mass media, and how it can be manipulated, as the attention span of the average television viewer could probably be measured in mere seconds. I know this is a bit of a stretch, but the best way of drawing attention away from such a significant political scandal is to engineer a national tragedy - the death of a mega-star, or a brutal mass murder. They have all of the operatives they need to achieve this, and absolutely no qualms or hesitations about carrying out such bloody retributions. This has been in much evidence over the past years. It paints a sad picture, I know, but I am certain that all of this is true...

Fahrenheit 912
06-28-2009, 01:33 AM
Respectfully, you simply don't seem to understand the tactics employed by the far right in this country. I am not 100% sure that this was the case, that Jackson was bumped off by far right-wing operatives. If so, it wasn't because of the sex scandal itself, but because it made the Republican Party look extraordinarily bad. I do know that these tactics have been employed in the past. Do not underestimate the utility of the broadcast media in this culture.... they do more to form opinions and ultimately voter preferences than anything else, and politicians are acutely aware of this. I know what I have said is a bit much to swallow, but whoever controls the media, or more importantly the direction the media takes, ultimately controls minds....

Fahrenheit 912
06-28-2009, 09:11 AM
Respectfully, NO, that isn't what I'm trying to say at all. You're mangling all of my words to place your own spin on my "theory."

Fahrenheit 912
06-29-2009, 10:05 PM
You said, " we need a diversion from the governor having an affair in the form of a murder of a pop icon, because, otherwise, we wouldn't be able to cope with his immorality." I never even implied this, and if that doesn't constitute spin, I don't know what does... Seriously, let's not get into petty squabbling. It detracts from the integrity of this forum terribly, and I have much more respect for you than that...

07-06-2009, 01:09 PM
I'm confused as to why you think the right-wingers would murder Michael Jackson, of all people, to "get back at" America?

I'm not saying that large groups of people don't retaliate in violent manners. In fact, I'm sure of it.

But why MJ? Why not some actor or professional sports player? Or Obama for that reason? And to insinuate that MJ was killed for retaliation purposes because Americans had made the government democratic... should that imply that they assume the people who enjoyed his music were NOT republicans?

I agree with BlueAngel in regards to Michael Jackson being worth more to the music industry dead than alive, and it seems like she really knows her stuff, especially when it comes to that particular industry. They can't seem to keep his records on the shelves! He's back, even in death, to being what his father, and the music industry, has always relied on - a cash cow.

Fahrenheit 912
07-10-2009, 11:52 PM
To paraphrase Alex Jones: There's an ongoing war for the control of your mind, and that war is being waged in the media....If Michael Jackson was indeed murdered, it was to divert the media and ultimately the public's attention away from something else breaking in the news - a political scandal involving a high ranking Republican official. Everything else ( getting "even" with the American people) is pretty much ancillary to that. You shouldn't have any illusions about the far right in this country. They are complete psychopaths capable of damn-near anything. The last eight years of the Bush administration should have awoken everyone to that fact....The scary thing is that they are still at-large throughout this country and the rest of the world, loyal to person's and parties no longer in power, creating murder and mayhem, and in the process, forwarding their own sick agenda.

07-11-2009, 07:26 AM
Just because Alex Jones says so, doesn't mean it's the truth. I still really doubt MJ was murdered by right-wingers. He was probably offed by the music industry, like BlueAngel said. That makes much more sense, because he was in debt and a liability. If you are right, though, I'd be really curious about the discussion that lead to that decision. Which right-winger singled out MJ, and how did they get enough people in on it?

Again, I think the major hole in the argument is the fact that he's saying that they did it to "divert the media and ultimately the public's attention away from something else breaking in the news - a political scandal involving a high ranking Republican official."

Politicians cheat. This is nothing new. Then again maybe we should look to see the following things: A) every time a republic cheats (or does something horrible), what news story has been pushed to the forefront for distraction, and B) every time a democrat cheats (or does something horrible), what news stories are suppressed in order to keep the scandal in the news. I think once there is more information like this, this might be a more convincing argument. But it's not convincing in the least now.

I do, however, agree that the media is used for mind control, or at the very least to limit the information we do have readily available to us, and to distract us with what ever stories they decide to repeat ad nauseam (MJ, Britney Spears, Anna Nicole).

07-11-2009, 02:45 PM
Diversionary tactics.

Yes, I agree it's a diversion. But I don't think it's to divert us from a republican scandal.

But who know :)

Fahrenheit 912
07-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Now, what could multi-billionaire music executives and elements of the political far right possibly have in common..? Sounds like people much of the same mindset to me. If so, then we have both stumbled upon a common thread, and after all, we are not dealing in extremely discreet categories of people. You said that Jackson was worth more to the music industry in death than in life. This seems to be highly perceptive on your part, and I thank you for bringing this to my attention. But in reality, this seems to be an affirmation of what I was thinking all along. These crimes, these atrocities, tend to be multi-faceted - they may exist on many different levels and address several different issues simultaneously. I am thinking of 9/11 here. I don't know who actually perpetrates these crimes, but they are conceived, scenarioed, and executed by extremely intellegent individuals...., psychopaths for sure, but extremely intellegent psychopaths - no less. Again, I am not one hundred percent sure that this was the case, that Jackson was bumped off by far right wing operatives, but the modus operandi of individuals possibly involved in this case tends to suggest otherwise...

07-11-2009, 11:35 PM
Wait, I'm confused...

You're not 100% sure that the right wingers bumped him off but the method of operation of these right wingers seems to point otherwise?

So... huh?

In your opinion where does it seem to point, then, if not to the not-100%-sure-bumping-off-of-MJ-by-far-right-wingers idea?

Or did you mean that by the right wingers MO, it points to your original conclusion?

Which would bring me back to the original question: why would they go through all that to distract us from something that isn't terribly uncommon/unheard of (but yes, still scandalous) anyway?

At least the guy didn't get caught with his pants down in a MPLS airport mensroom ;)

Fahrenheit 912
07-12-2009, 06:35 AM
Okay then, in terminology everyone here can understand: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck... Doesn't necessarily mean it is a duck, but it has all the characteristics of a duck. Does that make things any simpler???

07-12-2009, 11:48 AM
Okay then, in terminology everyone here can understand: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck... Doesn't necessarily mean it is a duck, but it has all the characteristics of a duck. Does that make things any simpler???


Okay, so I don't think you need to be defensive. I was legitimately trying to figure out what you typed, as it kind of made no sense. I mean, seriously, re-read what you wrote, and tell me that it makes no sense. I was just trying to clarify, not be snarky.

I'm not here to ruffle feathers, I'm here to learn and investigate. So cool it.

Fahrenheit 912
07-12-2009, 08:31 PM
As I said before, these crimes are scenarioed out in such a way that they could address several different issues simultaneously. I agree with you that Jackson was worth more to the record companies dead than alive, but that is only part of an even broader picture. Here is a recording megastar on the brink of making a major comeback, complete with a whirlwind world tour, while at the same time a major political scandal breaks involving a high-ranking conservative Republican official. Now to say that some form of collusion exists between multi-billionaire record company executives and elements of the political far right probably isn't too much of a stretch, as we are talking about people of basically the same mindset. In any event, the timing of Jackson's death seems to benefit all of the parties involved here, both the capitalist record executives and the gumshoes of the political far-right. The only question here, if any, is which motive is overriding. I strongly suspect that the two motivating influences mentioned here are complimentary, although they may not be the ONLY motivating influences in this case (there may be more going on here than any of us could possibly suspect).

Fahrenheit 912
07-13-2009, 09:18 PM
No, I'm not through yet... More shall follow.

07-15-2009, 07:34 PM
No, that's not what happened.

The NWO needed a distraction because of all the dismantling and money grubbing going on right now.

Michael Jackson dead was just the ticket. It will go on for weeks, perhaps months on end. There will be huge scandal and we'll have to watch it on the news day after day after day while ignoring real news.

Michael Jackson is dead. He had a funeral. He never had any influence on my life, and I think his music was worthless. I also think he was a perverted pedofile.


That's the really annoying thing. People are starving, wars are being fought, and real news is happening. But oh no, America wants its inside scoop on Michael Jackson!


Somebody get me out of here. I can't stand it anymore.

07-15-2009, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I agree.

This is just like Anna Nicole Smith all over again.

I'm a first generation American, and I don't feel like I belong here. This place makes no sense.

We are the most entertained nation, yet the least informed one.

07-15-2009, 09:17 PM
Do you write poetry Milly?

07-16-2009, 09:29 AM
No, I was never very good at writing poetry.

07-17-2009, 12:50 AM
You know, my first thought was that perhaps Jackson was bumped off to cause a distraction. Whatever the case may be, it certainly did cause a distraction.

But the more I think about it, the more validity BAs point may have. He was in debt. He was worth more dead than alive. That actually makes sense - money $$ sense.

And Milly, I don't know why but you first struck me as someone who might have a repressed poet inside you. You need to free the poet within.

07-17-2009, 07:53 AM
I'll work on that.

04-13-2011, 12:03 PM
You are Very Right. Michale Jackson, Tiger Woods, Britney Spears, the list is long... have all been Targets Politicos..

In Traditional Nazi Right Wing Fashion, Dick Cheney, George Bush Senior and Many Other Closet Nazi Republicans Dispatch thier evil right wing Hench Men and use their Over Whelming Money conections and power to achive their Criminal Sadistic Ends. They maintian their true Agenda Under the Radar, by way of misdirection, and misinformation. They Exclaim about the left wing Media, aka in Right Wing circles as the "Jewish Media" (They Hate Jews and probably also killed Jesus Christ, a Jew, and blamed that on Jews also), but use and abuse The right wing Corperate Media to basicly Run People like Poor Michale Jackson, a philantropist and cultural Iconic figure, into his grave at only 50 years of age.

Aldof Hitler would have been Proud of his Dark Evil Wicked "Sith Lord Disiple's", Dick Cheney and George Bush.:cool:

04-13-2011, 12:33 PM
The Right Wing Demi Gogs see Blacks and Jews as a like minded Obstacle, both routinely hail from the left wing and support left wing policies.

However, the right wing has always had a desire to divide the two groups politicly along the lines of their cultural and socio-economic differences, realizing all the while that united they together pose a larger political obstacle to the right wing ruling eleite. If they would only, by some mirraculous invention be divided, a more glorious situation could surely arise?

In the Art of War, Sun Tzu made clear that if you are presented with two opposing forces who, realize that you are a threat, have a common intrest in subduing or reining in your power, and/ or twarting your corupt agenda, then the method is to divide the two opponets and turn them against each other. Once you accomplish this end, you simply sit back and laugh, and share an ice cold beer with your fellow Nazis while you retain power. The two opposing forces, now enemies, will blither away at destroying one another.:D

Hence, today you have the Jew being implicated in the Death of Mike Jackson.