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Dreak
07-09-2005, 11:07 AM
I looked around for this in CC and really havent found it
so I decided to post.

I personally think this is the most important topic.

intro..

Thomas Jefferson warned of the damage that would be caused if the people assigned control of the money supply to the banking sector,

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. This issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of the moneyed corporations which already dare to challenge our Government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country"

Thomas Jefferson, 1791

Fiat money is strictly forbidin in US Constitution...

Chap. XV.—An Act establishing a Mint, and regulating the Coins of the United States.

SEC. 19. And be it further enacted, That if any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint shall be debased or made worse as to the proportion of fine gold or fine silver therein contained, or shall be of less weight or value than the same ought to be pursuant to the directions of this act, through the default or with the connivance of any of the officers or persons who shall be employed at the said mint, for the purpose of profit or gain, or otherwise with a fraudulent intent, and if any of the said officers or persons shall embezzle any of the metals which shall at any time be committed to their charge for the purpose of being coined, or any of the coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint, every such officer or person who shall commit any or either of the said offences, shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall suffer death.


SEC. 20. And be it further enacted, That the money of account of the United States shall be expressed in dollars or units, dismes or tenths, cents or hundredths, and milles or thousandths, a disme being the tenth part of a dollar, a cent the hundredth part of a dollar, a mille the thousandth part of a dollar, and that all accounts in the public offices and all proceedings in the courts of the United States shall be kept and had in conformity to this regulation.

all this and more can be found at

http://landru.i-link-2.net/monques/coinageact.html

IN the days of Lincoln..he procreated the first Fiat money system to finance the Civil war ( bet you didnt hear that in your history lessons )

so basically Lincoln should have been executed as a treasonist and a propriotor of unjust money exchanges ? search yourself on that one...

All the money that you "earn" and "pay debts" is a damn shamn.

Some of you say "out of your pocket to pay for this that and other" .. you mean Taxes right ? rofl..you really think that they give a rats endtrails that you pay taxes..I mean LIKE they NEED it ?? your paper money will help ? they cant print more moola ?

ITS another smokescreen..but if its not "seen" that They need your Taxes..then you might catch on..

Am I clear..or just drunken spacey again ?

There are some that think that Fort Knox is Empty..

Basically our money isnt worth the paper its printed on..and the only thing that keeps this alive is our trust that its worth something..

NOW..Gold/Silver is good..and the Bible says its good

Gold for instance is a good way of providing a weight and measure..I give you 50 tons of ox..or wheat..or whatever..and you give me ten thousand chickens..( but you dont have 10k chickies .. so you give me 5k chickens..and some gold..that is what was "weight and measure")

next time I want chickens .. Ill just give you gold..I dont have to exchange ox..ill just give you back some gold..because thats the "standard" of trade.

get me ? ..

I work sometimes at $100/hr .. that means you get my "trade" in exchange for ... well..nothing you can give me at the moment..I dont need auto repair ( if thats your trade ) .. I dont need chickens..( I have a full stock of food..so I dont need that at the moment.. ) However..you can give me Gold ..And next time I need something from you..or whoever I can exchange this gold for what I need..

GET IT ?

Dreak
07-09-2005, 11:17 AM
Thats how Fiat money comes in..

Im gonna give my Trade to you..(lets say 50 bucks an hour ) Ill make $200 in 4 hours..but..thats only a fraction of what Gold I can buy at current prices.

Remember..GOLD and SILVER are the "backings" of all monies.

Im lucky in that I have a "trade" ..

I can use my trade in many ways, unlike many that are pushing paper..or selling stocks..or not doing anything but talking on the phone..

Your not really doing anything but working off other peoples works..and making $

"I say that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to get into Heaven"

hmmm..wonder why that was said ?

peace Dreak

igwt
07-09-2005, 04:30 PM
There is an interesting article that's detailed. The link is on this site http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/mylinks/visit.php?cid=3&lid=54&PHPSESSID=47a521eb3c9ac619682f7b38fea509c0

07-09-2005, 05:38 PM
Yes, all that we are witnessing presently is a BUILD UP to World War III.

Remember, wars are created by them!!!

They must fuel their "war machine" in order to steal from the poor and give to the rich. THEM!!! From our pockets to their bank accounts.

They must control all of the world's resources. Energy, oil, gas, gold, silver, currency, diamonds, etc.

Nigeria, Caspian Sea, Middle East Oil fields, Federal Reserve Boards, etc.

They control most major corporations through the creation of subsidiaries, take-overs, etc.

Publishing!!

Case in point. AOL. Very successful. Merged with TIME. Complete takeover.

They CONTROL IT ALL!!

Face the facts!!

Private enterprise does not exist!! Double taxation does, however, if you are a private enterprise.

They are extending credit to our children. Children who are not yet 18 years of age!!

Get and keep us in debt to THEM!!!

eddie
07-11-2005, 02:12 AM
all well.
http://www.freedomfiles.org/
read the file of mary e croft.
or
http://www.mises.org/mysteryofbanking/mysteryofbanking.pdf
there is no money. :-)

Dreak
07-13-2005, 12:38 PM
Hey BA..

could I boldly ask what OS your running ?

what CPU ?

07-13-2005, 01:16 PM
Dreak wrote:
Hey BA..

could I boldly ask what OS your running ?

what CPU ?


NO!! I can't give out that type of "classified" information.

SORRY!!!

Dreak
07-13-2005, 01:27 PM
tee hee hee..

Windows XP im sure..

with Intel chipset...

well congradulations to you..! you just put your cash in the pockets of the elite NWO..thats the way to uphold your patriotism girl !!

roflmao !

07-13-2005, 01:41 PM
Dreak wrote:
tee hee hee..

Windows XP im sure..

with Intel chipset...

well congradulations to you..! you just put your cash in the pockets of the elite NWO..thats the way to uphold your patriotism girl !!

roflmao !


Thank you!!

truebeliever
07-13-2005, 07:41 PM
I believe ABSOLOUTLY that the key to getting people to understand the NWO...tyranny in general and how power is weilded, is understanding the BANKING SYSTEM and inparticular the machinations of the European Central Banking Houses.

Rothschild must be someone EVERYONE knows about.

This is THE key as EVERYONE can relate to money.

Once people start to realise that money has NO inherent value and is simply a medium of exchange that relies SOLEY on two or more people AGREEING on it's value...then something clicks!

Once they grasp that money is created out of thin air and the supply is in PRIVATE hands...things start moving.

This should always be our subject of choice when trying to wake others up.

nohope187
07-13-2005, 07:46 PM
Silly True, they don't teach abstract thought in public school. What makes you think they'll catch on now? :-P

07-13-2005, 08:09 PM
It's true. Children DO NOT and most ADULTS DO NOT understand our monetary system because they don't know that the BANKERS OWN US. The word FEDERAL is used for a reason. It makes the mechanism sound like it is government property. OF the people, by the people and for the people.

They don't know that Congress no longer coins money. They don't know that power was stripped from them. They don't know that WARS are fought for profit. THEIR PROFIT.

AND, THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT WHEN PRESIDENT KENNEDY WANTED TO RETURN THE POWER TO CONGRESS TO COIN MONEY AND BEGAN ISSUING SILVER CERTIFICATES THAT THIS SEALED HIS FATE.

igwt
07-13-2005, 08:16 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
It's true. Children DO NOT and most ADULTS DO NOT understand our monetary system because they don't know that the BANKERS OWN US. The word FEDERAL is used for a reason. It makes the mechanism sound like it is government property. OF the people, by the people and for the people.


Check this out. Notice the URL for Federal Reserve:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/

Now only goverment organizations are allowed to use gov domain at end of their URL.

this
07-14-2005, 03:39 PM
Follow it up IGWT, see if the Fed is really a division of government. The banking families who own it probably liked the way they created it. The Fed used to be listed under FedEx in the phone book I believe, also some court case clarified it was private.

What does the originating statute passed by 3 sitting representatives near Christmas 1913 say? Canada is unusual in that the central bank is wholly public.

It could also be that the Fed has served it's purpose in bilking the entire world since the end of WWII through the petrodollar scheme, and now is ready to retire and be bought out by the US gov't.

07-14-2005, 04:01 PM
Woodrow Wilson also acknowledge in a quote I cannot find that creating the "Federal Reserve Act" in 1913 was a mistake.

So, why did he do it??

Woodrow Wilson quotes:

A conservative is a man who just sits and thinks, mostly sits.
Woodrow Wilson

A conservative is someone who makes no changes and consults his grandmother when in doubt.
Woodrow Wilson

Absolute identity with one's cause is the first and great condition of successful leadership.
Woodrow Wilson

America is not anything if it consists of each of us. It is something only if it consists of all of us.
Woodrow Wilson

America was established not to create wealth but to realize a vision, to realize an ideal - to discover and maintain liberty among men.
Woodrow Wilson

At every crisis in one's life, it is absolute salvation to have some sympathetic friend to whom you can think aloud without restraint or misgiving.
Woodrow Wilson

Business underlies everything in our national life, including our spiritual life. Witness the fact that in the Lord's Prayer, the first petition is for daily bread. No one can worship God or love his neighbor on an empty stomach.
Woodrow Wilson

By 'radical,' I understand one who goes too far; by 'conservative,' one who does not go far enough; by 'reactionary,' one who won't go at all.
Woodrow Wilson

Every man who takes office in Washington either grows or swells, and when I give a man an office, I watch him carefully to see whether he is growing or swelling.
Woodrow Wilson

Golf is a game in which one endeavors to control a ball with implements ill adapted for the purpose.
Woodrow Wilson

I have long enjoyed the friendship and companionship of Republicans because I am by instinct a teacher, and I would like to teach them something.
Woodrow Wilson

I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.
Woodrow Wilson

I would rather belong to a poor nation that was free than to a rich nation that had ceased to be in love with liberty.
Woodrow Wilson

I would rather lose in a cause that will some day win, than win in a cause that will some day lose.
Woodrow Wilson

If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.
Woodrow Wilson

If I am to speak ten minutes, I need a week for preparation; if fifteen minutes, three days; if half an hour, two days; if an hour, I am ready now.
Woodrow Wilson

If there are men in this country big enough to own the government of the United States, they are going to own it.
Woodrow Wilson

If you think too much about being re-elected, it is very difficult to be worth re-electing.
Woodrow Wilson

If you want to make enemies, try to change something.
Woodrow Wilson

Liberty has never come from Government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of it... The history of liberty is a history of limitations of governmental power, not the increase of it.
Woodrow Wilson

Never attempt to murder a man who is committing suicide.
Woodrow Wilson

One cool judgment is worth a thousand hasty counsels. The thing to do is to supply light and not heat.
Woodrow Wilson

Politics I conceive to be nothing more than the science of the ordered progress of society along the lines of greatest usefulness and convenience to itself.
Woodrow Wilson

Prosperity is necessarily the first theme of a political campaign.
Woodrow Wilson

The American Revolution was a beginning, not a consummation.
Woodrow Wilson

The ear of the leader must ring with the voices of the people.
Woodrow Wilson

The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy.
Woodrow Wilson

The history of liberty is a history of resistance.
Woodrow Wilson

The man who is swimming against the stream knows the strength of it.
Woodrow Wilson

The seed of revolution is repression.
Woodrow Wilson

There are blessed intervals when I forget by one means or another that I am President of the United States.
Woodrow Wilson

There can be no equality or opportunity if men and women and children be not shielded in their lives from the consequences of great industrial and social processes which they cannot alter, control, or singly cope with."
Woodrow Wilson

There is no higher religion than human service. To work for the common good is the greatest creed.
Woodrow Wilson

Uncompromising thought is the luxury of the closeted recluse.
Woodrow Wilson

You are not here merely to make a living. You are here in order to enable the world to live more amply, with greater vision, with a finer spirit of hope and achievement. You are here to enrich the world, and you impoverish yourself if you forget the errand.
Woodrow Wilson