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DoctorX
01-27-2005, 03:34 AM
"The infrastructure is set up. There are at least 130 concentration camps — quietly modified facilities which have sprung up and continue to spring up across the country, seemingly devoid of activity, yet requiring strange accoutrements such as barbed wire-topped fencing (with the tops turned inward) and helicopter wind socks. Most have good logistical supportability, with major highways and railroad transport facilities adjacent to the sites.

"These facilities, many in remote areas across our country, are set up to become concentration/detention camps, complete with gas chambers, for resisters and dissidents. Generally speaking, they’re set up for dissenters who will not go along with the New World Order. The ‘resisters’ are gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons; the ‘dissidents’ are Christians, Patriots and Constitutionalists. These camps are set up. I’ve seen many of them.

Next, Mr. Sea elaborated on the two categories the RED and BLUE Lists, and what they mean: "The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but at a later date — within six weeks of martial law declaration. There are no ‘re-education’ plans for either category — just execution. When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they’ll take you from your home at night — probably around 4 a.m. — and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you’ll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter=97all black, unmarked and illegally operating under the Treaty on Open Skies. Then they’ll fly you to one of 38 cities where you’ll board a 747, 737, or 727. "You may be taken straight to a temporary detention facility. When you’re RED listed, you’ll be taken to a red camp. Then you’ll be executed.

"At some point, martial law will be declared. (Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus — to have a trial by jury — is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail for a limited time,) I suspect there will be a major outage, or some other crisis which will be the reason to declare martial law. At this point, the BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time, the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA. Be advised that it has been proven (in Wyoming and at least one other location) that the black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can jam cell phones and CBs while they’re executing black operations missions (i.e., in your area). This means that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you.Click here for full article (http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm)

crowneagle
01-27-2005, 02:03 PM
I've seen a video of this Amtrak concentration camp in "America Under Siege", a film prepared by Linda Thompson. The same film also has videos of a concentration camp in Denton, TX, plus all the other things we hear about....UN military police trucks, UN buses, soviet tanks, black helicopters etc.

The video does look very convincing on the possibility of a massive takeover, but I'd also like to hear other perspectives on the same. Perhaps someone else that has seen it can comment on it.

nohope187
01-27-2005, 06:53 PM
Sadly, I must agree with DX. If you watch Police State 2-The Takeover from infowars, and the Tex Mars video, Gulag USA, you get to thinkin', all that needs to happen is the right major crisis and the shit will hit the fan and tomorrow will be soaked in blood. Gee, thanx for depressing me, DX. I really was starting to feel better. :-x :-? :pint: :-o 8-) :hammer:

alumbrado
01-27-2005, 10:02 PM
I suspect there may be a sinister effort to replace much of the American population with non-American population in order to control the resources of the land for a new world government in Europe and Asia in the future.

At least in theory.

freeman
01-28-2005, 05:46 AM
Too many of these holocaust predictions have striking similarities -- such as the balkanization of the country into ten or more regions -- for me to dismiss them all lightly.
Further, alleged Illuminati defectors like Svali corroborate a lot of these details based on what they were told by superiors.
However, the biggest surprise may be revealed when the camps are finally implemented and their true purpose is disclosed.
As revealed in Stalin's Red Symphony interrogation of a captured Illuminati agent, the Protocols dictate that all of the agents of social subversion created and subsidized by the NWO (freemasons, satanists, radical feminists, environmentalists, communists, fascists, pornographers, pedophiles, etc.) will be systematically eliminated along with the standard political resistors. Just like Hitler's Night of the Longknives, once the ruling elite feel they have consolidated their power, they will no longer have any use for these individuals and groups -- and it would be way to risky to leave them running around loose with their power base intact.

karenillar
01-28-2005, 11:52 AM
Does anyone have a time frame in which this might happen, in a few years or much later. What about the military that still are state side, will they have to participate with these foreign troops, and Social Security I guess we'll never see that either. What is the purpose of A New World Order? The goverment pretty much does what they want to do anyway, and there's not awhole lot you can do about it. Why make matters worse.

nohope187
01-28-2005, 08:02 PM
Well, making matters worse is only the next logical step in the mind of your average global elitist. As for when the fit hits the shan, there's already another thread on that topic but, my estimation is things will dramatically be changing now through 2008 and then the meek will inherit are fears in 2012. :-x :-? :pint: :-o 8-) :hammer:

marypopinz
01-28-2005, 08:07 PM
Yah, the next 2-4 years should be great for some and then... get rid of your debt before the interest rates skyrocket, the dollar and stock market collapses...martial law - the new world order

I happen to believe that this whole mess could also be tidied up by 2012. Miracles do happen!

mary XXX

nohope187
01-28-2005, 08:23 PM
Your endless supply of optimism, Mary, while I don't understand it, is beautiful. :cry: :pint: :-o 8-) :hammer:

marypopinz
01-28-2005, 09:23 PM
Thanx nohope

That is a really nice compliment.

I guess I truly appreciate the grace of God. How lucky am I is my emotion when seeing the truth.

Change is painful, often-times. Birth is a painful experience. The result is beautiful. I see the history of the world birthing the foretold child called peace. I guess I see things differently.

I also have mountains of faith in God. Tons and buckets and oodles. The divine intervention in my life has been nothing short of miraculous on several occasions. I certainly did not have the power to alter my situation and my situation was most certainly altered from means beyond my control. That is my life experience. I guess that is why I believe in good so strongly.

I also am clever and can figure out and face truth as truths and facts as facts. God gave me the brains for that and very broad shoulders to face sometimes heavy burdens. I know that those moronic satan worshippers are coming unstuck as we speak. I can unburden my load. They cannot. And when the truth, as in Brazil, gets out to the people, as in pedophilesingovernment"r"us.com, the times are gonna change for the better.

Mary XXX

nohope187
01-28-2005, 09:29 PM
See, the flipside to that is that there's these groups like NAMBLA who're doing they're damndest to normalize pedophilia via the dialectical process. :-(

marypopinz
01-28-2005, 09:42 PM
Who are NAMBLA dude?

Mary XXX

freeman
01-28-2005, 09:44 PM
Does anyone have a time frame in which this might happen, in a few years or much later. What about the military that still are state side, will they have to participate with these foreign troops, and Social Security I guess we'll never see that either. What is the purpose of A New World Order? The goverment pretty much does what they want to do anyway, and there's not awhole lot you can do about it. Why make matters worse.

All good questions, Karen, and ones that I have devoted a lot of time and study to myself.
First, nothing is etched in stone when dealing with the NWO. They are neither omniscient or omnipotent, although they try to convey that image, since they are an elite minority trying to exert control over the majority. Their plans are therefore, fluid and not static, since even they cannot control every minute variable or paradigm. That being said, I have conlcuded that the next five years are critical, and the next year especially for the United States. If the Zionist agenda of the Bush neocons can be defused before it spreads to Iran, Syria or even Venezuela, that will be a major setback to the good cop/bad cop scenario of the NWO. If not, then the U. S. will be in danger of a catacylsmic retaliation probably perpetrated by the USSR under the sanction of the UN.
Should the worst happen, the military installations in this country will be taken over by Illuminati operatives who have been secretly trained and prepared for this objective for decades, as revealed by Svali and other insiders. It will be a horrible, post-Apocalyptic scenario resembling a Mad Max movie, with a reversion to localized control by feudal warlords. When the NWO troops finally intervene to retake these territories, they will be welcomed as saviors by the American people -- that is the whole purpose of this exercise, to make people WANT globalist totalitarianism as that third Hegelian option. And, of course, the Illuminati will turn on their own operatives at this point, and that's when the prison camps will start to fill up. Remember the Bible tells us that the very elect will be deceived. The NWO will appear to many to be acting as the "good guys" when they round up all of the "usual suspects", from occultists to political rabblerousers, just as Hitler and other dictators always did to consolidate their power initially.
Admittedly, it is very difficult to piece together the puzzle, since most legitimate info is interspersed with disinformation, but if one is dilligent and eclectic enough, I think a general pattern emerges. I also think that the internet disseminating a lot of this "inside info" about the occult also figures into the NWO master plan. After all, they want us to know whom we are supposed to scapegoat eventually, right?
Finally, you are correct in that there is no military, financial or even logical rationale for the Illuminati's obsession with outright universal control, since they have already
achieved that objective on a covert basis. Certainly, this won't enrichen the global elites anymore, give them any more power or personal discretion. There is only one logical deduction to be made, IMO: The elites are being manipulated too, via their own greed and lusts, by an even higher evil authority whose ultimate objective is the corruption and subjection of the entire human race.
Or simply, Satan is trying to win his contest with God, and we are the pawns in the game.

nohope187
01-28-2005, 09:45 PM
North American Man Boy Love Association. Fuckin' sick ain't it? :evil: :pint: :-o :oops: :-? :pint: :-o :oops: 8-) :hammer:

madkhao
01-28-2005, 10:03 PM
Has anyone else here heard the moon might have already turned into blood in 2001? There was a red full moon for three days straight during 911.
I know I was distracted and didn't see it, any of you's?

Rev 6:12

nohope187
01-28-2005, 10:12 PM
I think that bit about the moon turning to blood is describing a solar eclipse. The next one is scheduled to appear Mar. 29, 2006. :roll: :pint: 8-)

marypopinz
01-28-2005, 10:16 PM
Sicko's who want to rule the world...




"North American Man/Boy Love Association

On December 17, 1994., I was watching America’s Most Wanted, when they aired a story concerning an organization called North American Man/Boy Love Association or NAMBLA. John Walsh stated “That he and the FBI has tried for years to stop NAMBLA, and that all members of NAMBLA are sexually abusing young boys.” Stephen Davis Lewis was wanted for child sexual abuse and Leyland Stevenson who has been in prison for child pornography, said in his interview, that he and all the members have sex with young boys; they go to the park, library, and such, to pick up young boys for sex and there is nothing wrong with it.”

I called NAMBLA’s phone number in New York City and a recorded message said “If you want information about NAMBLA send a stamped self addressed envelope to PO Box 174, NY, NY 10018.” I sent the request and received a pamphlet concerning NAMBLA and a membership form. In order to stop NAMBLA we needed to gather information on them. I sent a $25.00 American Express money order and became a member using an alias.

NAMBLA was featured on America’s Most Wanted again, this time they arrested Stephen Davis Lewis, he was with a 15 year old boy.

I received my membership package. It contained a NAMBLA Bulletin with hand drawings of young nude boys, and stories of men sexually abusing young boys. It also contained a list of reading material anyone can order by sending a check payable to Zymurgy Inc.” I called the New York Secretary of State to check on Zymurgy Inc., and was told they were incorporated on September 9, 1994., as a Type B Non Profit Corporation. Which means it was incorporated to “foster” and “advance greater knowledge and understanding of human sexuality” through workshops and lectures. A Type B corporation in New York is the same as an IRS 501(c)3. This means that Zymurgy Inc., is granted special privileges including discounted postal rates, sales tax exemptions, and the right to solicit tax-deductible contributions. To sum it up, we (the taxpayers) are providing support to the people who sexually abuse our children. I ordered a copy of the Articles of Incorporation on Zymurgy Inc., for a list of directors and other information. I requested from American Express a copy of the negotiated $25.00 money order and received the copy with NAMBLA’s bank account information (Apple Bank for Savings in New York City). I sent a request for the reading material, with an American Express money order, in the amount of $6.50, payable to Zymurgy Inc.

Upon reviewing the Articles of Incorporation it stated that the three directors were; Peter Melzer, an New York Teacher; Robert J Rhodes, an Veteran Administration clerk; and William Andriette, the editor of the NAMBLA Bulletin. All three are verified NAMBLA members, Melzer was suspended because of his membership. With this information I sent a letter to The New York State Department of Education (copy attached), with copies to: the Attorney General, Dennis C Vacco; the Governor, George E Pataki; and the Secretary of State, Alexandra Treadwell. After five weeks of numerous calls, there was no response. On May 30, 1995., I called again and left a message that if I didn’t receive a call by the 31st, I would contact the media. On May 31st, I called Mike Gallagher, a reporter with the New York Post and gave him the information. On June 1st, the story appeared in the paper and I received a faxed response from the New York Department of Education (copy attached). It stated they turned this over to the Attorney General to dissolve Zymurgy Inc. Also, there was a press release from the Governor’s office stating that New York would dissolve Zymurgy Inc. On June 2nd, Assistant Attorney General, Steven Hicks filed a petition to dissolve Zymurgy Inc., in New York State Supreme Court.

The following months I worked with the Assistant Attorney General to gather more information on Zymurgy Inc./NAMBLA. NAMBLA would have to answer to the court as to why Zymurgy Inc., shouldn’t be dissolved. They lied on their application for incorporating Zymurgy Inc. If they had told the truth, they would not have been accepted for non profit status.

In July, 1995., as a member of NAMBLA I received a magazine called “Gayme”. The content page stated “Gayme is currently published two times per year by Zymurgy Inc.,” “Press run for this issue: 7000.,” and “All nude models depicted herein are at least 18 years of age” That means there are 7,000 copies mailed. They also stated “Make checks payable to Zymurgy Inc. for purchase of additional magazines”. The Gayme magazine contains 15 front nude photos of boys, and these boys appear to be between the ages of 12 through 16 years. In my opinion their disclaimer was false, therefore I immediately sent a copy to the Assistant Attorney General. When they received it, their opinion was the same. Thus, they filed a Amended Petition to include the Gayme Magazine.

In August, 1995., the judge made his decision to allow Zymurgy Inc., to retain their non profit status. When I received the judge’s decision I could not believe it. I called Judge Robert D. Lippman, and asked him, “How?” “Just how could you make that decision after seeing the Gayme Magazine?” He said, “The magazine was not filed in his court.” When I contacted the Attorney General, he said that it was filed and he sent me verification. Which indicated to me that the Judge didn’t bother to look at the magazine before he made his decision. The Gayme Magazine is an example of Zymurgy’s Inc., “Education in Human Sexuality.” The Secretary of State, Dennis Vacco, in his press release stated that New York State would appeal the Judge’s decision.

I receive another NAMBLA Bulletin in November, 1995. Enclosed with the bulletin was an announcement of NAMBLA’s Victory over New York State (copy attached). I faxed this to the Governor, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of State. For the next five months the Assistant Attorney General worked on their appeal. In April, 1996., the appeal was filed.

On January 31, 1996., the New York Senate presented a bill, bill #7879, to dissolve Zymurgy Inc. Then on June 24, 1996., the Senate passed the bill and the governor of New York, George E. Pataki, signed the bill into law. This action is extraordinary, a bill just for Zymurgy Inc. I believe Zymurgy Inc.,/NAMBLA celebrated their “Victory” to soon.

On July 11, 1996., Governor George E Pataki, directed the Secretary of State Alexandra Treadwell, to accept and file a copy of a new law, 7879 (copy attached), as a certificate of dissolution for Zymurgy Inc., forthwith. Zymurgy Inc., is no longer a charity or corporation.

I sent Senator William Larkin, one of the senators who initiated the bill, a copy of the Gayme Magazine, with confidence that child pornography charges will be filed against Peter Melzer, Robert J Rhodes and William Andriette. If we work together we can make a difference, this is proof.

On November 14, 1996, the Attorney General of New York won their appeal against Zymurgy Inc./NAMBLA. The Appellate Court overturned Judge Robert D. Lippmann’s decision, and dissolved Zymurgy Inc. Zymurgy Inc. was dissolved twice once by a new law and once by the Appellate Court. Now the Attorney General will do discovery, which will include the accountability of the money that was collected in the name of Zymurgy Inc., and if they find that NAMBLA used any of the charity money from Zymurgy Inc., for NAMBLA’s operation then that will constitute charity fraud. I know that the State of New York will prosecute the three main NAMBLA people.

I received the copy of the negotiated American Express money order payable to Zymurgy Inc., the bank is located in Boston, Massachusetts. Now that Zymurgy, Inc., is not a non profit corporation, all their assets will be confiscated by New York State and the Attorney General has a bank account for their audit.

Facts About NAMBLA

* NAMBLA members think that it is their right to have sex with boys
* NAMBLA members think that they are loving the boys and not hurting them
* NAMBLA members are a very serious threat to boys everywhere
* NAMBLA instructs their members on how to sexually abuse boys and get away with it
* NAMBLA member, Peter Melzer is a teacher at the Bronx High School of Science in NY
* NAMBLA members try and pass themselves off as gay, they are not, they are pedophiles
* NAMBLA was incorporated as Zymurgy, a non profit, in Delaware and Massachusetts
* NAMBLA members will sexually abuse your boys if given the chance
* NAMBLA members are located in the United States and other parts of the world
* NAMBLA members work very hard at hiding who they really are
* NAMBLA thinks that they are protected by the Constitution, their talk is, their actions are not
* NAMBLA members find boys to sexually abuse at the park, the library, gamerooms and anywhere boys will be

Documentation

Judge Robert Lippmann's Decision Allowing Zymurgy/NAMBLA to keep Nonprofit Status
New York Senate Writes Bill to Dissolve Zymurgy, Governor Signs into Law
New York State Appellate Court Decision to Reverse Orders by Lippmann
New York Newspaper Articles and Press Releases

Other Links

Mike Echols' Web Site on NAMBLA
Citizens Against Predators (CAPS)
What You can do to Help Sexually Abused Children
What You Should know about Child Sexual Abuse
Dorothea Acosta, My Story
Children's Equal Protection Act of 1994




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Dorothea Acosta
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freeman
01-28-2005, 10:38 PM
Great post, Mary. This lady is a true hero, for sure.
Isn't it amazing how obtuse and inefficient government can be when responding to something as egregious this, and yet they can invade foreign countries without even a legitimate reason?

marypopinz
01-28-2005, 10:46 PM
I'm lost for words

nohope187
01-28-2005, 10:58 PM
There's a female version of NAMBLA too, only they're both men and women molesting girls. I don't know what they currently call themselves,though. :-x

alumbrado
01-29-2005, 10:05 AM
freeman wrote:
First, nothing is etched in stone when dealing with the NWO. They are neither omniscient or omnipotent, although they try to convey that image, since they are an elite minority trying to exert control over the majority. Their plans are therefore, fluid and not static, since even they cannot control every minute variable or paradigm. That being said, I have conlcuded that the next five years are critical, and the next year especially for the United States. If the Zionist agenda of the Bush neocons can be defused before it spreads to Iran, Syria or even Venezuela, that will be a major setback to the good cop/bad cop scenario of the NWO. If not, then the U. S. will be in danger of a catacylsmic retaliation probably perpetrated by the USSR under the sanction of the UN.

You know, very soon, the Free Trade of the Americas are expected to be signed by all the countries from North to South America this year, if not next year. The NWO elite wanted to ensure that it happen first, for the expressed purpose of consolidating, controlling and regulatng the continental American economies. The only roadblock to that FTAA framework is Cuba since Castro refused his country's participation with the organizers of the FTAA. Ironically, the free trade idea and the consolidation of national economies originated from Karl Marx, the father of international communism, the very ideology Castro followed to the letter. The NWO elite and the FTAA backers are now seeing Castro as an obstacle that must be removed somehow. Chavez of Venezuela is another question mark, due to his allegiance with Castro.

Once the FTAA treaty is signed by all the countries in the American continents, it would become an American Union, an economic union in name only. Not yet a complete political entity. The NWO elite wanted to see how the European countries would accept or reject the Constitution of EU (the first step to a complete political consolidation of the entire continent) this year.

The next step is the hastily arrangement by the NWO elite to form an Asian union throughout Asia. The Trilateral Commission's Japanese and Australian branches are working behind the scenes to make such arrangements with the Chinese, Indian, Malaysian, Thai, Filippino and Indonesian folks through ASEAN chapter groups. The Russians have questions about an Asian union and may oppose it due to the country's proximity to the Pacific and Asia. The NWO elite desire to split Russia in half: the western Russia belonging to the European Union (Ukraine being the first step in getting western Russia to join the EU) and the eastern Russia/Siberia belonging to an Asian Union (a preferred desire by China). We'll see how that will goes.

An Islamic/African union is not that far off in the future but it may not be controlled by the NWO elite. An Islamic union in the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia is the professed desire of many Muslim fundamentalists and followers, with a supreme Caliphate at its head. This is the dream/goal of Osama bin Laden: eliminate the Saudi rulers, get the Muslims to rise up and overthrow the national/secular leaders and establish Islamic republics looking toward Mecca, being the center of a political, religious and economic union under Islam. The only roadblocks to that are: the schism between the Shi'ites and the Sunnis, Israel, Turkey, the Kurds, the Christian Armenians, warlord feudalism, and the NWO elite.

An African union is another big question mark due to the volatility and chaos in most African countries, wrecked by diseases and wars. A quiet depopulation effort to eliminate most of the African population is already underway. This weekend's Davos World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, the subject is all about Africa.

The idea is all about the LEGAL controls and consolidations of such economies in order to facilitate future political and military takeovers of the countries, all by legal means in the name of global security and peace. War and chaos in the affected countries may be necessary, yet the legal, political and diplomatic manipulations are another ways of getting or forcing the countries to accept takeovers in exchange for something "rewarding" or whatever that is.

The United Nations is on its last legs of international legitimacy. Future wars will kill the United Nations for good, just as the NWO elite wanted, so to place all the political-economic unions under the controls of a planned GLOBAL UNION. This can only be done after a limited nuclear war in the near future and unfortunately, it is already set in stone.

freeman
01-29-2005, 10:23 AM
The United Nations is on its last legs of international legitimacy. Future wars will kill the United Nations for good, just as the NWO elite wanted, so to place all the political-economic unions under the controls of a planned GLOBAL UNION. This can only be done after a limited nuclear war in the near future and unfortunately, it is already set in stone.

Yes, that is what I am saying. While the legal groundwork has been covertly laid by the NWO, a great crisis will be necessary to finish the job, especially in the U. S., where there is just too strong a nationalist spirit that persistently shakes off its death throes.
And the UN will be technically superseded by something else when the NWO makes their grand play, but the principle that the UN represents -- universal government and religion through cultural miscegenation -- will endure.

marypopinz
01-29-2005, 10:24 AM
"The idea is all about the LEGAL controls and consolidations of such economies in order to facilitate future political and military takeovers of the countries, all by legal means in the name of global security and peace. War and chaos in the affected countries may be necessary, yet the legal, political and diplomatic manipulations are another ways of getting or forcing the countries to accept takeovers in exchange for something "rewarding" or whatever that is."

This much I could not have said better.... Alumbrado obviously understand exactly how the game is played and...

"Set in stone" after nuclear war? Not!

Nothing is set in stone by these NWo jackasses. They'd like to think their plans are set in stone and very rarely do things actually go as they have planned. They ride with the punches, just like you and me. The NWO will not succeed. Arseholes always shit when they only meant to fart. That system will quickly collapse in the light of truth.

Mary XXX

alumbrado
01-29-2005, 10:28 AM
I'm afraid that a limited nuclear holocaust is going to happen anyway in the near future. :-(

alumbrado
01-29-2005, 10:35 AM
freeman wrote:
Yes, that is what I am saying. While the legal groundwork has been covertly laid by the NWO, a great crisis will be necessary to finish the job, especially in the U. S., where there is just too strong a nationalist spirit that persistently shakes off its death throes.

The "quagmire" we see in Iraq right now is pretty much a sum of what the NWO elite would get in a supposed "occupation" of the USA: an even violent quagmire against them. Fighting and dying for freedoms are much more stronger than dying for "Allah".

Minuteman
01-29-2005, 04:43 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just this week I saw something that really put a lump in my throat. Don't know what it means and I regret not turning around and following these assholes but. I saw a convoy of several trucks, one was a tractor trailer. They were all painted white (the UN color), they all had flashing police style lights hidden inside the grill of the trucks. No markings, lettering or anything, just white trucks, six of them in a convoy. Hmm.