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Khopesh 10-08-2005 10:14 AM

Hello all.

Ive often heard about conflicts between different illumanati factions, moreover a general clash between the NWO and China.
However there is also much said that all forces on earth are controlled one way or another by the elites.
Is China one of the few truely independant nations on earth?

What do ya reckon?

Draken 10-08-2005 11:45 AM

Re: China!
No, I don't think China is in any way independent. My opinion is that the NWO equals Communism, therefore China is the NWO. The NWO agenda is identical to the International Communist agenda, in fact, it's been implemented in USA since Roosevelt and it was infiltrated long before him. Therefore the American NWO cabal are really Marxist-Leninists in diguise, (the neocons are all confessed adherents of Communist factions, be it Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky or Mao) and the only difference between them and the Red Chinese is the masks they are wearing. I don't have time now to go into detail, but check out this chapter on the <a href="">Li bloodline</a> from Springmeier's <a href="">The Satanic Bloodlines</a>.

By the way, saw the big <a href="">debate between Hitchens and Galloway</a> the other day. What a hoodwink. Hitchens begins by basically bragging about having been a Trotskyite and Galloway has a Socialist past as well. This big "event" being moderated by Amy Goodman of Democracy Now and Pacifica Radio, a well-known Leftist so-called "gatekeeper". All in all a completely Socialist event with nobody at all anywhere NEAR the REAL other side of the spectrum.

sablefish 10-08-2005 12:43 PM

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Draken.. I hate to admit it but, that lines up with H.W.Bush being ambassador to China. Still, I wonder why there seems to be friction.. for instance with Russia and China willing to veto U.N. actions against Iran.

10-08-2005 01:50 PM

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Ah, which Bush klansmen have ties to China?


Draken 10-08-2005 03:29 PM

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BlueAngel, you are jesting, right? Is there anything NOT manifactured in China these days? I'd say there's plenty of ties. But if you mean blood-wise, I don't know. Maybe there's some info on that in that Springmeier chapter. But generally I would not dismiss blood ties based on external physical appearances. For example, most Europeans are from Aryan blood and ancestry even though they have different appearances...

10-08-2005 03:55 PM

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I'm not speaking about maufacturing. I'll have to dig it up.

truebeliever 10-08-2005 08:17 PM

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China is a totally owned and operate subsidery of the anglo/U.S banking establishment.

China lives on 50 billion a month of direct investment from the West.

With the pressing of a few buttons China would collapse overnight...literally.

The weapons that really matter are sold to them by the West.

If you hear someone talking about the threat of China they are either a paid hack or incredibly underinformed.

nohope187 10-08-2005 08:22 PM

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I think it's safe to say since, China has their currency tied to US, they will fall when Amerika does.

Shannow 10-09-2005 03:02 AM

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nohope, didn't they cut themselves adrift the other week ?

freeman 10-09-2005 06:44 AM

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China's ties to the U. S. dollar can always be severed as necessary.
Keep in mind that a sudden devaluation of the dollar would not be nearly as disastrous to the Chinese economy, since their stanard of living is so much lower by Western standards. The sinister beauty of keeping one's people on the bottom rung is that there is never any chance of them falling any lower and rising up against government in retaliation.
In a worst-case scenario, life would go on much the same for the average coolie while the Chinese leadership took the necessary measures to convert to Euros or some other monetary system.

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