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Ellar 01-06-2005 04:59 PM

Is the US being targetted with weather manipulation attacks?

Posted on Tue, Jan. 04, 2005

Trio of storm systems could have devastating impact on U.S.


Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - Moisture-laden storms from the north, west and south are likely to converge on much of America over the next several days in what could be a once-in-a-generation onslaught, meteorologists forecast Tuesday.

If the gloomy computer models at the U.S. Climate Prediction Center are right, we'll see this terrible trio:

# The "Pineapple Express," a series of warm wet storms heading east from Hawaii, drenching Southern California and the far Southwest, which already are beset with heavy rain and snow. It could cause flooding, avalanches and mudslides.

# An "Arctic Express," a mass of cold air chugging south from Alaska and Canada, bringing frigid air and potentially heavy snow and ice to the usually mild-wintered Pacific Northwest.

# An unnamed warm, moist storm system from the Gulf of Mexico drenching the already saturated Ohio, Tennessee and Mississippi valleys. Expect heavy river flooding and springlike tornadoes.

All three are likely to meet somewhere in the nation's midsection and cause even more problems, sparing only areas east of the Appalachian Mountains.

"You're talking a two- or three-times-a-century type of thing," said prediction center senior meteorologist James Wagner, who's been forecasting storms since 1965. "It's a pattern that has a little bit of everything."

While the predicted onslaught is nothing compared with the tsunami that ravaged South Asia last week, the combo storms could damage property and cause a few deaths.

The exact time and place of the predicted one-two-three punch changes slightly with every new forecast. But in its weekly "hazards assessment," the National Weather Service alerted meteorologists and disaster specialists Tuesday that flooding and frigid weather could start as early as Friday and stretch into early next week, if not longer.

"It's a situation that looks pretty potent," Ed O'Lenic, the Climate Prediction Center's operations chief, told Knight Ridder. "A large part of North America looks like it's going to be affected."

Kelly Redmond, the deputy director of the Western Regional Climate Center at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, Nev., where an unusual 18 inches of snow is on the ground already, said the expected heavy Western rains could cause avalanches. Since Oct. 1, Southern California and western Arizona have had three to four times the normal precipitation for the area.

"Somebody is in for something pretty darn interesting," Redmond said.

The last time a similar situation seemed to be brewing - especially in the West - was in January 1950, O'Lenic said. That month, 21 inches of snow hit Seattle, killing 13 people in an extended freeze, and Sunnyvale, Calif., got an unusual tornado.

The same scenario played out in 1937, when there was record flooding in the Ohio River Valley, said Wagner, of the prediction center.

Meteorologists caution that their predictions are only as good as their computer models. And forecasts get less accurate the farther into the future they attempt to predict.

"The models tend to overdo the formation of these really exciting weather formations for us," said Mike Wallace, a University of Washington atmospheric scientist.

Yet the more Wallace studied the models the more he became convinced that something wicked was coming this way.

"It all fits together nicely," Wallace said. "There's going to be weather in the headlines this weekend, that's for sure."

Wagner was worried about the Ohio and Tennessee River valleys as the places where the three nasty storm systems could meet, probably with snow, thunderstorms, severe ice storms and flooding. Some of those areas already are flooded.

The converging storms are being steered by high-pressure ridges off Alaska and Florida and are part of a temporary change in world climate conditions, O'Lenic said.

Over equatorial Indonesia, east of where the tsunami hit, meteorologists have identified a weather-making phenomenon called the Madden-Julian Oscillation. It's producing extra-stormy weather to its east. Similar oscillations in the north Atlantic and north Pacific are changing global weather patterns. Add to the strange mix this year's mild El Nino - a warming of the equatorial Pacific - which is unusually far west, Redmond said.

There's also another, more playful explanation: The nation's weathermen are about to converge on Southern California, and they bring bad weather with them.

The American Meteorological Society will meet next week in usually tranquil San Diego, which should be hit with the predicted storms and accompanying flooding in time for the group's gathering.

In 1987,when the meteorologists met in San Antonio for their convention, the city had ice storms. In 1993, when they gathered in Anaheim, Calif., it rained for 4.5 out of five days and triggered mudslides. Atlanta got rare snow during the meteorologists' 1996 convention. And in 2003 in Long Beach, Calif., heavy rain greeted them.

Ron McPherson, the group's recently retired executive director, said: "It always rains on the weatherman's parade."

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For more information on the Web, check out the Climate Prediction Center's weekly hazard assessment, at

madkhao 02-13-2005 04:02 AM

Re: Is the US being targetted with weather manipulation attacks?
I didn't want to open up a new thread for this because it's not really related. The question is, will it happen? howdown.html

* "The Champion Paper Co. is cutting [trees] on the mountains closest to
the Canadian border, creating a clear area to the border before the
mountains. They're also spreading herbicides. 'Satellite motion-sensor
detection equipment to be installed in area.'
* "Phase One of Project Philadelphia is about two-thirds completed: rise in
prices, shortages of food, power outages, civil unrest... expect a price
doubling in your staple food items.
* "Phase Three -- Quebec Hydro shutdown; this is the 6th largest electric
power [plant] in the world, and controls ALL ELECTRICITY EAST OF THE
MISSISSIPPI... Scheduled to go down any time from Jan./March. An "induced"
outage during the cold of winter (winter of '04 - '05 or a following
winter? - Branton) would create the most hardships and be a major
"emergency" crisis condition...

* There were two very high ranking Quebec hydro engineers aboard RON
BROWN'S plane. Keep your eyes on Canada. [End quoting]

What is also interesting is what you'll read the bottom of the first paragraph at the site/link provided. Was this pointing to the tsunami?

DarkChilde3D 02-13-2005 10:16 AM

Re: Is the US being targetted with weather manipulation attacks?
Aside from the way we've all been polluting this planet with the oil drilling, the blasting for mining and highway building, and the CFC's in the air from our aerosol cans, engine exhaust . . . I don't think that the human race will ever be able to sway the course of mother nature. Forces such as pressure systems typically have a way of balancing out, and I don't think we have a grand force producing device that good ol' mother nature wouldn't balance out immediately.

It could have been planned the entire time . . . but that would be assuming that they ever knew that this would be the result. I don't think they knew what they were getting into when they started these activities and mass producing the pollution-pouring machines.

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