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truebeliever 01-12-2005 11:21 PM

Social Engineering & Computer Games
I have a confession.

Despite my hatred of war and the death of innocents I have a love of the First Person Shooter.

The more realistic tactics involved the better. The more realistic the weaponary the better. The more detailed the graphics the better.

I like the games like Ghost Recon where you may hide under a bush for a half hour or more waiting to kill the enemy. Lots of detailed infantry tactics please.

I find my love of the high tech machinery of war hard to reconcile with the disgusting real life effects.

I'm beginning to draw the line lately as the games themselves are earily mimicking real life scenario's or is it the other way around?

Ghost Recon came out around 2001 and is based on the CIA's favourite hack Tom Clancy's cast of characters of the same name.

In the game you are army special forces detailed with moving through Central Asia up to the borders of Russia with Chechnya. Eventually you move into Russia with the aim of defeating ultra nationalist Russian coup plotters.

Much of the action centers around North & South Ossetia which happens to be where so much trouble has been happening lately. Remember the terrible School gym bombing? Central Asia is central to the NWO take over.

The next disk was based around central and sub saharan Africa including the coast of Somalia. U.S Special Forces are there right now securing and capping off the oil fields there preventing independant development.

They ar'nt there yet but the third disk has you landing in Cuba to secure it for 'democracy'. We'll wait and see. Snigger snigger.

Sub plots include backing up U.N soldiers helpless against nasty ultra nationalist locals. Characters blurt out classics like "Watch out for blue hats, they're the good guys". Hmmmm.

Next game is "Shadow Op's" where you are a member of an elite black op's unit tasked with 'dirty' missions. In more honest days these characters were called Mercenaries.

You must predictably defeat the evil terrorists who want to destroy innocent people. A large chunk takes place in the Middle East with a suitable musical accompanyment...plenty of Allah Akbah's abound. Pure Psy Op's for the young grist for the mill of the future.

In the end you prevent the killing of VIP's at a world leader summit. Shame. When will a game come out when we have to KILL the NWO leaders? I wait patiently. It will come soon. Write in for some scenario's.

The current game which has me gob smacked is "Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising". I remarked to a friend with a big grin that I wonder when the game detailing the take over of Indonesia is due out (this was post Tsunami).

1 week later I found it. It's spooky. On the back cover..."In one of the largest multi player FPS games EVER, join the ferocious struggle between Joint Operations Forces and Indonesian Rebels, where team work is essential for survival and ultimate victory".

It gets better...

The scenario even pin points Ache. The scene of most of the devestation from the Tsunami and where a large carrier task force is kindly helping the locals. Ache just happens to possess one of the richest deposits of precious metals, oil & gas, rain forest timber and numerous other valuable exports. It also happens to be home to an Independace movement strongly Muslim and actively resisting the NWO and it's lackey's in the Indonesian Elite.

I kid you not. If you're familiar with this genre you will know what I mean. Some of the details mimicking real life are astounding.

I cannot believe that just like the co-operation with Hollywood, gaming departments are not being funded by a department of the CIA.

Remember that wonderful stream of war movies pre and post 9-11? Who cannot forget the tear jerker Black hawk Down. No better peice of revisionist propaganda bullshit has ever been produced. And just in time for the war too.

I'm sure it's just a co-incidence.

billiard 01-13-2005 12:41 AM

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i,too,am a first person shooter ,multi-player addict .i am 49 yrs old and i like these games more than my 13 yr old does.since this past summer, i have been playing delta force blackhawk down by novaworld,maker of joint ops. i bought that one too, for my boy, and he plays it ,but i have yet to master BHD .i liked PS2 until i discovered this stuff.

i like your posts,though i'm not so sure about the jewish connection being a non-factor. the international banker crowd seems to be at the forefront of this globalism/NWO mess and they are predominantly jews.also,i have read more than once that jerusalem is to be the global capitol ,and israel has been called the country the rothschilds built . comments?

DarkChilde3D 01-13-2005 01:02 AM

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Oh, lord . . .

Not only am I a fan of the first person shooter, I make mods, models, environments, charachters and weapons for these games. I've taken more first person shooters and modified them to my personal liking (more realistic the better) it's sick.

I've also gone to the point of no return . . . I recoded Unreal Tournament to be Virtual Reality compliant, because I wanted to actually aim the flak cannon at my brother (who always plays a Nali War Cow).

I've also made 3D models of naked women to make the shoot 'em ups more interesting. Boobs and carnage can make for a real interesting game . . . especially if the 'chickies' are packing heat.

But, that's the price you pay for having a laptop with all your art programs on it, and 8 hours a night at a security post . . . some pretty sick stuff gets created because the mind is 'bored'.

But for the reason of not getting sued, I'll leave the game material for myself. I don't think Carmen Electra and Pam anderson and others would appreciate the fact that I've manipulated countless images of them in order to make textures for nude character models of them to 'play with'.

But there are other games beside the first person shooter that I love to partake in. . . GTA Vice City is my favorite game of all time, so far. I haven't boutgh San Andreas yet, though. And in a way, GTA is even worse than the rest of them, because the other games don't have realistic elements of daily life in them that you are disrupting . . . how many times in GTA have I killed hundreds of innocent people at a clip because I got pissed off that a mission seemed impossible? All those poor computer generated souls. Gladly, no one in the real world was ever hurt by me due to a video game.

Play 'CRAZY TAXI' . . . my top score . . . 14,995 with 15 passengers . . . the secret is to take all the 'red' fares first to build up your time, and do a 'crazy slide' to finish every fare. . . if done right, you can easily rack up about $800.00 by getting 'caught' between the wall and the ground.

truebeliever 01-13-2005 01:37 AM

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It's good to know one is not alone re: FPS.

True Billiard, "The Jews" wield more influence than their low numbers should account for.

The Jew does business. They are also responsible for many great things accross the whole social spectrum of the arts and sciences.

They are also one of the true people who's allegience is to yewah and not to the state which makes them enemy numero uno to the NWO.

The Muslims too are finding out that their bowing 5 times a day to an invisdible being is really pissing off Rothschild. Daring to build there towns over such light sweet crude has certainly been there undoing. Whats the joke God had on the Jews?...God sent them wandering for 40 years and then had them settle in...Israel! Missed by a few hundred clicks. Perhaps they're rectifying that as we speak.

Yes I concede they are a mischevious, arrogant bunch of bastards who need to admit they crucified there King and are paying for it 2000 years later. Still, they are human beings and the old Torah Jews are a good bunch. Do we call Sharon a "Jew" anymore than calling Bush a "Christian"? They are just arseholes in the service of power.

Yes there are certainly some pretty whacko things aimed for the middle East. I just dont want to lump all Jews in the same boat.

I also dont want to lose the international perspective on this. I blame WASP's far more than I blame Jews. I am open to being convinced otherwise. I just say the Jews are open as scape goats at this time. perhaps we simply need a more focussed language. Perhaps Fundamentalist Zionist?

I just dont want the debate to get bogged down into "It's The Jews"! It gets us nowhere.

I prefer to think that the shadow we project onto Jewery such as love of the material, love of money, hard of heart and racism would be better admitted in ourselves.

I admit there is certainly a great deal of evidence of elements of Jewery planting great subterfuge and mischeif.

DC...I know the feeling of to much spare time. You must understand how people kept in solitary confinement produce fine works of art out of match sticks.

May we keep the FPS on the computer screen.


Forgive the posting binge. It will wear off soon.

truebeliever 01-13-2005 02:28 AM

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Joint Ops is also multi player only. I bought it today and am taking it back. I wont open up to the net at all.

Enjoyed Shadow Op's though a bit shoot em up.

Ghost Recon is my fave. Old I know. I wish they'd update the graphics. Excellent gameplay and relaistic infantry tactics.

Oh and by the way...the NWO sucks...just in keeping with the theme.

DarkChilde3D 01-13-2005 10:22 AM

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One other game, (although a 3rd person) was SpecOps . . . GREAT game . . . and then there was the other one . . . forgot the name . . . you had 6 guys to go against the Nazis . . . involved 2 step aiming? Anyone? It wasn't command and conquor, but I do believe the name was limilar . . . _______and _______. If anyone knows, please, fill in the blanks.

Ahmad 01-13-2005 10:27 AM

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Peace DarkChilde,

I don't want to spoil your fun!, but could you tell me of one MEANING/VALUE behind video games?

madkhao 01-13-2005 10:55 AM

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GTA was the best game ever made so far (imho)

We should design a video game with NWO characters. Our mission, what else?

billiard 01-13-2005 01:23 PM

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i will tell you the answer to your question : NONE

playing video games has no redeeming qualities,no meaning or value . but it's fun. lighten up a little and try having fun sometime. you seem to me to be abolutely too solemn.

Ahmad 01-13-2005 01:32 PM

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: )

Peace billiard,

It's not just fun, it is brain washing, all kinds of evil you can do today in virtual reality! witchcraft, murder, rape...etc! who is behind this you think? same like the movies and comic books.

There is ligitimate fun, e.g: learning something new thorugh a game, excersizing, pondering at God's creation....etc

And there is iligitimate fun, and its pulling all of us downwards in a spiral,... anyway it's everybody's choice!

nohope187 01-13-2005 03:59 PM

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popular games I've played that allude to moral degeneration is the Grand Theft Auto series, the Leisure Suit Larry series, whatever the latest version of Quake is, Halo 1 & 2, Half-Life Team Forces, StarCraft, WarCraft series, Diablo 2, Whatever the latest version of Might and Magic, and Counter Strike. :-P

truebeliever 01-13-2005 05:05 PM

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That was the point of my post. IT ABSOLOUTLY IS BRAINWASHING!!!!!!!!!!

But damn fun too when blessed with a mind capable of telling the difference.

I just wish and wish and wish for a game where we get to knock off Rothschild and his ilk. I'm personally sick of fighting the rebels.

We must infiltrate successive Elite meeting places blasting them to bits till we get to the Elite banker himself in his evil liar for the final showdown.

nohope187 01-13-2005 08:37 PM

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I'm pretty sure there's already a FPS game called NWO that's out. Basically, in the game, you're part of homeland security killing off christians and muslims alike 'cause they're alquaida. check infowars archives for the article. :-P

truebeliever 01-14-2005 02:48 AM

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Thats the's the same old get the terrorists.

I want one where i get to gut Rothschild and spank Arnie with a 4 by 2.

Perhaps Arnie as the Gimp ala Pulp Fiction?

Ozziecynic 01-15-2005 09:00 PM

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:-( It is obvious that this exactly what the purpose of these games is for!
I am in my late twenties so i have never been caught up in this Computer games trend those in there teens early twenties seem caught up in!.
But I feel it is aggression for the passive aggressive the kind of activity for pathetic non manly but also non intellectual pot smoking slobs.

The type that may suceed in the IT industry but thats about it.A sign of the times i suppose.
A generation that doesnt get out and play enough team sport visit the gym or get involved in enough all round physical activity.

Equally a generation that doesnt read enough books and therefore lacks essential knowledge which they shouldnt even bother respnding to if they dont even know what their talking about!. Believe me this lack of knowledge shows up on this forum amongst some of you that have admitted you are into this trend!.(excludes Ahmad and fellow aussie truebeliever knowledge is intact).

Added to this it cannot be denied that in a nation like the U.S where virtually anyone can get hold of a firearm,these kind of games have been responsible for motivating psychos to go on shooting sprees like the Colombine Massacre and countless others!.
I have only one thing to say if your going to waste your time on such shite without putting your time to more educational or constructive uses!.Then just keep them in perspective o.k dont go out and shoot anyone or rape any one just cause you could in the game.Also dont get any brainwashed ideas of U.S Imperialism against the world!.
Now thats a nice kid jake!. :lol:

DarkChilde3D 01-15-2005 09:06 PM

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Does anyone here have the original Unreal Tournament, game of the year edition? If so . . . I may have a treat for you . . . I'm working on a few choice characters for this that I'm making . . . Bushes Jr. and Sr, Osama, Saddam, the Muppets, Sesame Street, and a whole host of others, but none that I'm 100% sure if I'm keeping or not.

What other game engine formats do I have to export these guys to? What're you gus playing these days (for PC)?

lynns_shadow 01-15-2005 10:52 PM

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hey dark, how you doing bro? :-)

Well, let us see..

cartoon girls in negligible clothing, kicking boys and men or one another, about, with no conscience- in
rampant gratuitous violence..

over and over again, to numb the mind to/about, personal boundaries, self control, and simple human kindness. Not to mention appropriate social behaviors and God-ordained sex-roles.

Yep, I'd say that's a pretty clear, if not overt brainwashing technique.

Cept the more time goes by, I am wondering why they call it brain "washing". I mean, can we talk? : -)

marypopinz 01-15-2005 11:05 PM

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I just got rid of the XBOX

I didn't like the message it was sending and the games were far too real. What is classed as acceptable for children, really is not. Unless the world has gone insane.

Mary XXX

truebeliever 01-16-2005 02:15 AM

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ABSOLOUTLY! These games are not for kids!

They are absoloutly brainwashing. DELIBERATE. Absoloutly deliberate.

I agree to a large degree OC. But like all things there are 2 sides to the coin.

It's an oldie but a goodie...should we ban cars? 1300 people killed last year on Oz roads...1-3-0-0.

Plus innumerable badly injured...some permenantly.

I used to see the horrible results regularly.

What to of alcohol?

Visit any E.D in Oz or elswhere and observe the carnage.

I would like to see kids out and about. Perhaps in that close community we all crave it will happen.

I cannot exactly explain my liking for these games. I actually spent much soul searching over it.

Perhaps when I'm setting up my Permaculture property i'll be too busy. I am a strong Scorpio and have always been fascinated by war. Perhaps it's in my blood, perhaps a former life. A last vestige of the beast within?

DC...i'm a Medal Of Honour Pacific Assault man. No UT for me. Realistic infantry tactics for me.

Minuteman 01-20-2005 07:13 PM

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Hey guys! I set up the computers for my son. I forget name of the game but in one of them you get "implants" that enable you to do things. I then told them all about Verichip, RFIDs and what you could do with them. I know it's a difficult concept to instill in a 12 year old but being technically savvy and knowing what GPS is I explained it this way. What if the bad guys didn't tell you all of the functions of the implant. Ya, it lets you run faster, it lets you blast bigger enemies but unknown to you it also reports your location continuously to the bad guys. Then they understood.

freeman 01-20-2005 09:54 PM

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I just got rid of the XBOX
Im still trying to learn how to use mine.
Simple programs like Nascar Heat and Madden 2005 (a Christmas present from a relative).
Afraid I came along too late for this technology. No matter how good I think I'm getting, I normally encounter a ten year-old who can dust me like a throw rug.
Some of the program titles I have seen some of these kids use do concern me, though. Violence, racism, sexual objectification, etc. Kind of a virtual boot camp for NWO trainees.

nohope187 01-22-2005 04:23 PM

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Well duh, Freeman. You're of an older generation where television and video games weren't the norm and stuff like reading was. So, it's only obvious that stupid mind numbing shit like video games don't come well to you. Hell, I was 4 years old when I first started my addiction to television. I was 6 when I discovered my new addiction to ATARI. Then came Nintendo and Sega. At age 18, I finally got sick of video games but kept the TV addiction. At age 23 back in 2001, I put my foot through the TV screen and never looked back. I'm even sick of watching movies now 'cause I know I'm sittin' there for a good 2 hours soakin' up propaganda like a sponge only to reframe in my mind that every thing I just saw was a well crafted lie that everyone else can't get enough of. I still watch movies in theaters every now and then and still come out wonderin, why the hell did I spend money to see that? Oh shit, I'm ranting. Good time to stop, eh? :-P

nohope187 03-22-2005 08:22 PM

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Here it is. have fun reading. :-P

DarkChilde3D 03-23-2005 02:22 AM

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The official word is in . . . today in a press conference, Microsoft's Bill Gates told the press, "The goal here is to make real life look fake compared to video games by the year 2010."

I'm just kidding, but that, ultimately is the goal, I believe . . . I think that they (NWO) wants everybody working at a terminal from their home, not having any social life, etc. Problem with this? No reproduction, except by the NWO heads . . . in 2 generations time, these fuck-heads will have no more slaves . . . we will have all died off to extinction.

get_real 03-23-2005 07:48 AM

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As I child I loved watching The Donna Reed Show, who can forget their daughter singing "Johnny Angel". I still remember the words to that song.
Anyway, I would get lost in a world that I thought we are supposed to be! The beautiful, get-along family. Coming to each other for support, comfort, kind words.

Hmm. Then on occasion I would hear: "oh the world is not like that!" So I wondered why not, and why do we not strive for this type of family/world?
I thought, surely, who ever is writing and producing these shows feels like I do, and therefore these shows are representative of what we should be or strive for.

I was a child. I only saw good. I only wanted good. To this very day, that child (at times) just doesn't want to let go of the possibilities.

get_real (?) hmmm!

nohope187 05-05-2005 06:49 PM

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Hey Real, you'll always have Nick at Nite nickelodeon. :-P

Yeoshua 05-06-2005 03:38 AM

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What is the flicker rate of many of these games? 50Hz? 65Hz?

What sounds are programmed into them?

Darkchilde, how are the background textures created? What images can be scanned raytraced or rendered?

Who monitors such games for quality?

What is the effect on an individual of repeating an action over an over and over again?

What is the effect of hearing a sound combined with a flicker over and over and over again?

What is the effect of all of the above combined? Combined with alcohol, cannabis, flouride, mercury?

Now, let's paint a picture, I'm going to stare at a stobe light at 65Hz, with a constant auditory tone at 145Hz, I'm going to partake of some skeletal relaxant and depressant (alcohol) and I'm going to pschedelically alter my conciousness (cannabis), I'm also going to have some of my higer spatial and creative functions muted (flouride).......

I wonder what would happen to me?

I know - nothing, I'm going to play my game, bollocks to it, I'll still watch my flickers, listen to my tones and partake in my chemicals.

DT291 05-06-2005 09:20 PM

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I never was much of a FPS fan. Can't really explain it. I however am an oldschool fan of RPGs, before they went online like the old Final Fantasies. Those have a bad downside to them: they eat up ridiculous amounts of your time just to gain a number of experience points to level up and other worthy activities such as that.

Still fun though :-P

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