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truebeliever 08-29-2005 07:07 PM

"Unbreakable Codes"?
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They're constantly telling America that Alquida is sending out secret messages to their outlying cells by code, and that they are codes that can be decoded , but in the same breath they say they were so intelligent to be able to pull off the impossible on 911, my contention is if one wants to send out an unbreakable coded message that could not be broken, it would be fairly simple, if the rules of the game are known between the parties beforehand and they were able to have been kept secret.

First off, if you wanted to send a message to a friend, or cohort in crime, and you needed to get it out, you would pick a site on the internet that has nothing to do with terrorist activities, and as long as the other parties knew what site that is, you would have the foundation of an unbreakable code. something else needed would be that those sending and those recieving the messages would need an email account.

If you wanted to send a message you would go to this innocuous site and for each letter that would make up the word that you want to send, all you would have to do is go down the page untill you get to the letter, count back, and that would be the first number in your message, and just go from here, or they could use the same book, and do the counting game.

I dont care what kind of super computer the NSA, CIA, etc have,b] it would be unbreakable.

psholtz 08-29-2005 08:07 PM

Re: "Unbreakable Codes"?
Any type of "one-time pad" (also known as a Vernan cipher) is mathematically unbreakable, although in practice they are often unwieldly to use, at least viz conventional digital cryptography. Quantum cryptography promises to make Vernan ciphers much more widely used, but I'm not certain how *realistic* that type of technology is for now..

Launch codes for nukes are traditionally protected using a Vernan cipher (along w/ other types of extremely sensitive information).

truebeliever 08-29-2005 11:07 PM

Re: "Unbreakable Codes"?
In the early 90's a world wide treaty was signed allowing for various governments to NOT sell codes that cannot be broken by government.

It is ILLEGAL to sell or use so called "unbreakable" cyphers.

"They" just want you to think they cant listen in. Just like they spread the word when digital phones came out that they were not interceptable as Pablo Escobar found out was not quite true.

Of course there is nothing to stop you setting up your own simple, unbreakable code, if you must.

But it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep secret a standard cypher.

No matter how random or how long the key...super computers can crack it.

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