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jason_ou812 09-22-2005 10:17 PM

What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
Hi all...first post.

Just read this today

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/nsw-residents-leaving-in-their-droves/2005/09/22/1126982184160.html

I stopped on the first paragraph:

'As Australia's most heavily populated state, NSW is struggling to keep pace with the national rate of population growth.'

Why is 'growth' such a big deal. Why is there a constant struggle to grow everything - be it population, business, profit etc? In a (supposed) world where we are running out of oil, land etc, why is there such a struggle?

In this case, would it be a bad thing if the population stopped growing? What would happen, other than the Georgia Guidstone-type people gleefully rubbing their hands?

Is it a purely western phenomenon? Or is it merely the capitalist way?

Methinks we're being conned. Or do I just have it totally wrong?

DarkChilde3D 09-22-2005 10:31 PM

Re: What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
Simply enough . . . the corporation is designed in such a way that the only goal of the process is to grow. That's why the saying goes, "If we're not growing, we're dying."

The only purpose of a corporation is to make money, as much of it as fast as it can. It then takes the earnings, and attempts to grow. You have to remember now, that the profit a corporation makes doesn't actually belong to anyone. So what else is the profit going to be spent on? Its going to be spent on investments to make more money.

If XO Bank makes 10,000,000 in one year of operation in profit, this mans that it can purchase another building in which to open a second branch. If each bank makes 10,000,000 that year, then each one can open up another branch. Now its not the individual banks that actually open the new locations, but since the money is all thrown into one pot, this is what you get.

Now this company in the article seems to not be worried about growing the population, but they want to be able to provide their service to all of the population at all times. They don't want to have to send business elsewhere. That's why they want to grow . . . so they can make more money.

And I do call the government a corporation, as well . . . because they have the same basic purpose as any corporation . . . the difference is, they don't provide services in the same way. They take in money from taxes, so they can provide services to others.

jason_ou812 09-22-2005 11:25 PM

Re: What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
But this is ludicrous - what you are saying is that
you want population growth to get more funds to service the population that keeps growing???

If you stop the growth you stop the need for more growth. Or am I just being naive?

Why is the goal of a corporation growth? Why can't it just leave well enough alone?

I find it strange that if a company makes X million dollars profit this year, but only X+1% next year, it is considered bad. It's share price takes a dive and investor confidence drops. IT STILL MADE A PROFIT, so what is the problem?

freeman 09-23-2005 04:21 AM

Re: What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
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That's why the saying goes, "If we're not growing, we're dying."
While it is true that the capitalist corporate model operates in much the runaway sense that you describe, one of the intrinsic paradoxes of the New World Order is that they actually discourage population growth simultaneously. So in the longterm they will never be able to sustain the exponential growth demanded by their dialectic materialist paradigm. You simply cannot continue to grow a corporatocracy with fewer and poorer customers, which is the built-in self-destruct mechanism of free market capitalism.
These kinds of inherent contradictions are just more proof that this is not a financial conspiracy, but rather a Satanic one. Even its uppermost members do not understand that they have been duped into running in place on a hamster cage treadmill that will only take them to one ultimate destination: the destruction of all humanity.

truebeliever 09-23-2005 04:27 AM

Re: What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
GROWTH?

I prefer to call it keeping people busy. Also, it's a bit like the Yo Yo craze...pretty silly, but on it go's.

I dont mind growth...it's growth for the sake of growth which is pissing you and the rest of us off.

What should be the sometimes useful sideline of human activity has become the guiding light...the tail wagging the dog.

Society needs a common goal and a common reason for living. For me that is to set the social structure right before the move into the solar system and eventually the Universe as God intended.

NWO adherents to varying degree's also want this...they just want only a few hanging around to fuel the rocket ships and the rest of us dead.

It's actually quite banal when you think about it.

eddie 09-23-2005 05:00 AM

Re: What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
growth.
what growth? for who?
thanks to the commerce game and banking it means there can only be one winner.the rest ends up as slaves.growth= the rate of confiscation?
there is no money,only the illusion.everything in life is already prepaid.
if you buy a house {i should say purchase}you are not paying for the substance.you are paying the accumelated interest over generations.
it's a stupid mind game.:-)

freeman 09-23-2005 05:14 AM

Re: What is the big deal about 'growth'?
 
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thanks to the commerce game and banking it means there can only be one winner.the rest ends up as slaves.growth= the rate of confiscation?
there is no money,only the illusion.everything in life is already prepaid.
if you buy a house {i should say purchase}you are not paying for the substance.you are paying the accumelated interest over generations.
it's a stupid mind game.
Yes. Absolutely. Usury permits people to live beyond their means, as well as their governments. Simple as that. We overdevelop, overproduce and actually end up earning very little of what we accumulate. And eventually that big balloon payment of interest comes due.
On one hand the NWO encourages economic growth, production and consumption...on the other they advocate zero population growth and preservation of the environment. It's all just a circular scam. The rats are herded through the maze with hopelessly conflicting twists and turns until they finally get frustrated, break down the walls and attack each other.


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