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Insight 10-11-2005 12:39 AM

It's no secret that the RIAA is unusually tenacious in being the leader in over the top corporation VS consumer attacks. My question is, are there any musicians, actors, movie producers, or script writers who are going hungry because their profession is no longer profitable? Making a living is making a living. Is there any reason why a media profession should pay more than a non media profession?

Obviously, Doctors should be the highest paid people in the working world. The people who actually save lives SHOULD make the most money, as they preform the most essential service to humanity.

Really, the only reason the RIAA is concerned with media pirates is because there is a fortune to be made by fighting them sucessfully.

I'm sure we all think that athletes, movie stars, and muscicians are over paid. And for a long time, there was nothing we could do about it. Until now.

Downloading media will eventually serve as the great equalizer to the greedy and overpaid unessentials.

But only if people are tenacious at it.

For years, I have wanted a way to punch Tom cruise in the face, take a shite on Britney Spears, and disembowel the head of every major record lable. And now, I can, by taking what they sell, and giving it away for free to anyone who asks.

To the RIAA, downloaders and pirates aren't exactly the leaders of society. (How many times has the RIAA's website been hacked?) If you plan on staying healthy and sane, I suggest you stop shoving feces down our throats.

500million teenie boppers may have been manipulated into buying meaningless music. And there used to be nothing I could do about that. But if I give that shite for free, I contribute to the war against the media garbage.

As this rant comes to a close, I say to all of you, DOWNLOAD! DEAR GOD, DOWNLOAD!!!

Get bitcomet, go to, and DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD!

And of you don't, here's an idea of what I got FOR FREE last MONTH:

PC games: The Sims 2, Sid Meyer's Pirates, Manhunt, Silent Hill 4, EV Nova, and sim city 4.

Movies: Batman Begins, Oceans's 11 and 12, The Family Guy Movie, The Incredibles, Texas Chainsaw masicre and countless anime movies.

Music: Every weird al album ever made, all the Matrix soundtracks, All the tortoise albums, and countless soundtracks.

TV episodes: Countless episodes of simpsons, futurama, family guy ect.

Free folks. Free. And easy as hell. if you can download a program, type a word into a search bar, and click on a link, you too can have all the media you desire for none of the cost.

truebeliever 10-11-2005 12:57 AM

Re: The RIAA
I agree %90 INSIGHT.

I have about 300-400 DVD's and VCD's. Mostly copies but I buy the classics.

I like to reward video game makers if they have produced a tight production and I will buy. Though to be honest there's been nothing worth playing in my eyes for sometime.

I have only just found the wonders of Bit Torrent and luuuuuuuuv the documentaries that abound.

I have a couple of thousand MP3's most of which are shit and I dont even know why i've kept them. The musicians can "earn" their money touring. This will give them less idle time to snort coke and gang bang groupies in their hotel rooms.

The mega corporations have tried to corner the music/culture market with their white bread shit and have paid the price...just like the movie makers. May they rot in hell. Just as the printing press freed up the world so long the internet and access to the multi media 'mediums' will usher in a knew era of freedom and democracy.

Of course they wont be sitting idly by. Gates, with his new "Longhorn" version of Windows (now what is with that name?) will make it virtually impossible to violate copyright...assuming some 12 year old in Norway does'nt crack it in 5-10 minutes of it being released. Point is, %70-%80 of the computer market will be covered anyway leaving only the hard core copiers such as ourselves who can be bothered.

Then of course O.S's like Linux will get a HUGE boost and this may backfire on Gates as people decide to pull the plug on Microsoft and bite the bullet with a Linux O.S...permenantly.

However, they have this covered as well because as the crackdown continues they intend to tie in "Criminal Confiscation Laws" with "Anti-terror laws" and consider copyright violation as terrorism and then simply take your house and contents.

This will be enough to scare most into submission.

Insight 10-11-2005 02:42 AM

Re: The RIAA
**I like to reward video game makers if they have produced a tight production and I will buy.**

Same here. I'd be lying if I said I didn't own hundereds of games that i actually paid for, as well as many classic DVDs.

**Of course they wont be sitting idly by. Gateswith his new "Longhorn" version of Windows (now what is with that name?) will make it virtually impossible to violate copyright...assuming some 12 year old in Norway does'nt crack it in 5-10 minutes of it being released. Point is, %70-%80 of the computer market will be covered anyway leaving only the hard core copiers such as ourselves who can be bothered.**

Tell me more about this security feature of windows.

And I might add, my best friend is a pretty hard core programmer. His philosophy concerning computers became his motto for questionable internet activities, which is "There's always a weakness, there's always a way around."

You see, the thing that's great about computers is that they are never 100% secure. Everything can be cracked.

***However, they have this covered as well because as the crackdown continues they intend to tie in "Criminal Confiscation Laws" with "Anti-terror laws" and consider copyright violation as terrorism and then simply take your house and contents.***

Now, that is one thing that is disconcerning. You know, with the patriot acts, any controlled substance is considered a weapon of mass destruction. That can mean a single joint. And any one caught with a weapon of mass destruction can be secretly kidnapped and executed. It's scary, but it's true. And the american public are too concerned with war in other countires to realize what's happening at home. I could see them deciding that copyrighted material is a controlled "substance".

**This will be enough to scare most into submission.**

year, fear is the name of the game these days. The thing is, fear only controls the stupid. As individuals, man is brilliant. En Masse, humans are stupid.

You see, part of the game is making the crap available to the people who buy crap. I reccommed you take all that garbage music you have, and stick it up on a file sharing network. We might as well be screwing over the people who make the crap.

Shannow 10-11-2005 02:43 AM

Re: The RIAA
I disagree that doctors should be paid the most...unless it's on success.

I think that teachers should be paid the most (once again on success), as without the foundation that they provide, not much else is possible. Given their shit pay, and low entry requirements, my Mum (about to retire) has seen 6 years olds correcting new teachers on spelling (and be correct).

Pirating is funny.

The Genres of music that I like isn't mainstream, and there's a lot of crap out there.

Typically, I pay a 20% plus premium, and have to buy off the catalogue, not the shelf.

To be able to download a sample, before I order has been great, and lead to many more CD sales than I would otherwise buy.

Also, once discovering a band, then you want their back-issues. Most long forgotten, and not manufactured widely. They will make nothing on them, as they won't produce them.

Fixed price, a returns policy, and compulsory production of old stuff, and I'd support downloading bans.

truebeliever 10-11-2005 03:16 AM

Longhorn And Copyright
Had a brilliant point by point breakdown on what Microsoft were doing but cant find it right now. Will eventually.

This another article...


March 12, 2004
Thumbs Up for Longhorn Security Lockdown

By Ryan Naraine

As software security holds its place as a top priority among enterprise networks, engineers at Microsoft are building proactive PC monitoring capabilities into its next generation Longhorn operating system, a move that's being widely embraced.[Great! Not...]

According to those in the know, Longhorn engineers are packing new technologies into the OS to check against a central patching Web service for security holes on computers. If a user does not have a patch installed, Longhorn's active protection technology will kick in to adjust the firewall or PC settings to block specific attack vectors without having the patch installed.[And what else will it do? Check for naughty copies?]

The operating system will then issue security warnings to the user and proactively block open ports or adjust registry settings to plug security holes.[Thats so nice of them. Maybe inform the local authorities that you have pirated music on their as well]

Robert McLaws, president and chief software architect of Interscape Technologies, an independent software partner of Microsoft, said the plan is to have Longhorn keep watch over computers for unusual activity and network spikes to pinpoint potential hacker attacks.[Unusual activity eh?]

"Some people are going to scream bloody murder that 'Big Brother' is watching and taking control of their systems but, if they don't care enough to keep their systems secure, then they have lost that right to complain," McLaws said.[What complete fucking unbelievable arrogance]

McLaws, an Internet security advocate who publishes the site to simplify security alerts out of Redmond, said the security capabilities being introduced with Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) is a sneak peek at what Longhorn will offer.

"It will watch your computer and try to analyze what you are doing. It will look for abnormal activity. If it finds that your computer just sent 50,000 e-mail messages, it will cordon off that area to block your computer from used by hijackers. If your PC becomes an attack machine, Longhorn will proactively stop that from happening," he explained.

He said some of the protection technologies are being ported back to SP2, which is currently in beta and includes major changes to Windows XP's embedded Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) and default tweaks to thwart buffer overflows (define).

The service pack will also introduce monitoring of browsing, e-mail and instant messaging for malicious attachments or code and automatic blocking of certain types of attachments, like executables,[Will that include web content like an Alex Jones page?] by default. Microsoft's flagship Internet Explorer browser will be overhauled to include a new add-on management and crash detection tool and several modifications to its default security settings.

"I love the new firewall and the security enhancements [in the service pack]," McLaws added.

McLaws, a .NET developer and consultant, believes Microsoft must do more to put security on the front burner for non-technical, mom-and-pop customers. "The main reason people aren't downloading and installing patches is because Microsoft makes them so hard to understand. People don't have a clue what Microsoft is saying."

Frustrated by the hardcore technical language in Microsoft's alerts, McLaws created and launched the site with simple language and direct links to the relevant patches. A typical posting on the site comes with a color-coded warning system and very straightforward explanations of the risks.

He sometimes changes Microsoft's ratings if he determines that a flaw has major risk. "Anything that has to do with e-mail in any way, shape or form, gets a critical rating. I'll change Microsoft's rating because that's the biggest concern for users."

The site is focused mainly on patches issued once a month by Microsoft and is organized by categories and individual entries. To simplify the delivery mechanism, McLaws is using category-specific RSS (define) feeds.

He plans to add .NET alerts to the RSS feeds to shuttle security alerts via MSN messenger.

"There's a big disparity between the end-user bulletins and the TechNet bulletins [for IT admins]. The end-user bulletin is not enough and, on the TechNet side, it is too much. I try to give an even balance of that on the site."

"The biggest problem is that these Microsoft security guys are techies. And techies are very poor communicators. That's where PatchDayReview comes in. We'll clean up the language and simplify it for users."

truebeliever 10-11-2005 03:21 AM

"Trusted Computing" As Used In Longhorn. A Must Read.
Aha! Found it. GREAT article! A must read.

Here is a an extract...


2. What does TC do, in ordinary English?

TC provides a computing platform on which you can't tamper with the application software, and where these applications can communicate securely with their authors and with each other. The original motivation was digital rights management (DRM): Disney will be able to sell you DVDs that will decrypt and run on a TC platform, but which you won't be able to copy. The music industry will be able to sell you music downloads that you won't be able to swap. They will be able to sell you CDs that you'll only be able to play three times, or only on your birthday. All sorts of new marketing possibilities will open up.

TC will also make it much harder for you to run unlicensed software. In the first version of TC, pirate software could be detected and deleted remotely. Since then, Microsoft has sometimes denied that it intended TC to do this, but at WEIS 2003 a senior Microsoft manager refused to deny that fighting piracy was a goal: `Helping people to run stolen software just isn't our aim in life', he said. The mechanisms now proposed are more subtle, though. TC will protect application software registration mechanisms, so that unlicensed software will be locked out of the new ecology. Furthermore, TC apps will work better with other TC apps, so people will get less value from old non-TC apps (including pirate apps). Also, some TC apps may reject data from old apps whose serial numbers have been blacklisted. If Microsoft believes that your copy of Office is a pirate copy, and your local government moves to TC, then the documents you file with them may be unreadable. TC will also make it easier for people to rent software rather than buy it; and if you stop paying the rent, then not only does the software stop working but so may the files it created. So if you stop paying for upgrades to Media Player, you may lose access to all the songs you bought using it.

For years, Bill Gates has dreamed of finding a way to make the Chinese pay for software: TC looks like being the answer to his prayer.

There are many other possibilities. Governments will be able to arrange things so that all Word documents created on civil servants' PCs are `born classified' and can't be leaked electronically to journalists. Auction sites might insist that you use trusted proxy software for bidding, so that you can't bid tactically at the auction. Cheating at computer games could be made more difficult.

There are some gotchas too. For example, TC can support remote censorship. In its simplest form, applications may be designed to delete pirated music under remote control. For example, if a protected song is extracted from a hacked TC platform and made available on the web as an MP3 file, then TC-compliant media player software may detect it using a watermark, report it, and be instructed remotely to delete it (as well as all other material that came through that platform). This business model, called traitor tracing, has been researched extensively by Microsoft (and others). In general, digital objects created using TC systems remain under the control of their creators, rather than under the control of the person who owns the machine on which they happen to be stored (as at present). So someone who writes a paper that a court decides is defamatory can be compelled to censor it - and the software company that wrote the word processor could be ordered to do the deletion if she refuses. Given such possibilities, we can expect TC to be used to suppress everything from pornography to writings that criticise political leaders.

The gotcha for businesses is that your software suppliers can make it much harder for you to switch to their competitors' products. At a simple level, Word could encrypt all your documents using keys that only Microsoft products have access to; this would mean that you could only read them using Microsoft products, not with any competing word processor. Such blatant lock-in might be prohibited by the competition authorities, but there are subtler lock-in strategies that are much harder to regulate. (I'll explain some of them below.)

3. So I won't be able to play MP3s on my computer any more?

With existing MP3s, you may be all right for some time. Microsoft says that TC won't make anything suddenly stop working. But a recent software update for Windows Media Player has caused controversy by insisting that users agree to future anti-piracy measures, which may include measures that delete pirated content found on your computer. Also, some programs that give people more control over their PCs, such as VMware and Total Recorder, are not going to work properly under TC. So you may have to use a different player - and if your player will play pirate MP3s, then it may not be authorised to play the new, protected, titles.

It is up to an application to set the security policy for its files, using an online policy server. So Media Player will determine what sort of conditions get attached to protected titles. I expect Microsoft will do all sorts of deals with the content providers, who will experiment with all sorts of business models. You might get CDs that are a third of the price but which you can only play three times; if you pay the other two-thirds, you'd get full rights. You might be allowed to lend your copy of some digital music to a friend, but then your own backup copy won't be playable until your friend gives you the main copy back. More likely, you'll not be able to lend music at all. Creeping digital lockdown will make life inconvenient in many niggling ways; for example, regional coding might stop you watching the Polish version of a movie if your PC was bought outside Europe.

This could all be done today - Microsoft would just have to download a patch into your player - but once TC makes it hard for people to tamper with the player software, and easy for Microsoft and the music industry to control what players will work at all with new releases, it will be harder for you to escape. Control of media player software is so important that the EU antitrust authorities are proposing to penalise Microsoft for its anticompetitive behaviour by compelling it to unbundle Media Player, or include competing players in Windows. TC will greatly increase the depth and scope of media control.

freeman 10-11-2005 06:25 AM

Re: "Trusted Computing" As Used In Longhorn. A Must Read.

I disagree that doctors should be paid the most...unless it's on success.
Around here the doctors are all corrupted by Freemasonry, most of them third-world imports who do the bidding of the corrupt HMOs and sell out the public.
Same with the teachers. Or any other educated professionals.
I don't care if any of them get paid the most...or even at all. Piss on them all. :-x
No one's income should be protected...becaue decent, God-fearing people will always be last on the list anyway.

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