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sandsplinter 02-15-2005 02:46 PM

Soy Products???
 
Anyone have any opinions on soy?

I have noticed most of my processed products now contain it.

Sure, small amounts are good- I suppose, but it is in almost literally everything!!! Look in your own kitchen and see for yourself.

The fact that the US produces more than 50% of the world's product helps but there has to be something else. Yes, it is cheaper and that is reason enough I suppose. But Americans consume much more of it than anyone- evan the Chinese who suposedly "live off of it" - (but they don't use nearly as much of it as we do...)

get_real 02-15-2005 03:08 PM

Re: Soy Products???
 
www.mercola.com/article/soy/

Mawashi 02-15-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Soy Products???
 
It seems just about everything's got soy in it these day, mainly as a filler, I suppose.

I think to get any real benefit from it though, you need to eat the stuff in its least modified forms, and I think the non-GM stuff is best. I live in Japan, and soy products make up a big part of the diet here. One reason why there are so many old people around... First, there's good ol' tofu, which has zero fat and loads of protein. I like the firm type. Then there's miso soup. I'm not a fan, but it is healthy. Then there's the pungent natto (fermented, sticky soybeans). Reeks a bit, but an acquired taste.

Soy milk. Tastes like sawdust to me.

Mawashi 02-15-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Soy Products???
 
After reading some of that Mercola stuff, I don't think soy is inherently bad, but like most other things, moderation is OK and don't believe the marketing hype. I'll stand by what I said in my previous post.

Draken 02-18-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Soy Products???
 
I think this should take care of it... ;-)


HIDDEN DANGERS OF SOY ALLERGENS
- by Kaayla T. Daniel, PhD, CCN
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Soy%20Allergens.html

EMERGING DANGERS OF SOY PRODUCTS
- by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig PhD
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/soydangers.html

HIDDEN DANGERS OF CANOLA OIL
- by Sally Fallon & Mary G. Enig
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/canola.html

THE HEALTH BENEFITS OF COCONUT MILK AND OILS
- by Mary Enig PhD.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/coconuts1.html

sandsplinter 02-18-2005 11:41 AM

Re: Soy Products???
 
Thank you all for the input.

The main reason I asked was because I recently found out that I am allergic to soy protein (egg whites and milk proteins too) and was absolutely amazed at how many items contain a variation of it.

I guess I want to feel better about the loss if I find reasons not to eat it anyway!

Thumper 10-12-2005 09:10 PM

Re: Soy Products???
 
funny, i start a thread on this topic as well. Does anyone know about the purported excess estrogen that our bodies produce when we eat too much soy? Apparently they're using it to feminize society and soften us up for domination :-P

Shannow 10-13-2005 12:37 AM

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The eostrogen mimics are a bad thing, as are the peanut genes in Round-up ready soy.

Funny, we are told to keep peanut butter, or utensils that have used it, away from our kids for two years, and then can give them peanut proteins in their formula/cereal...pathetic (And one reason why my kids have only breast milk for at least 18 months...see also coconut oils).

I think that most of the traditional uses of soy involve fermentation, and are pretty safe.

nomad 10-13-2005 03:17 AM

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Quote:

Mawashi wrote:
After reading some of that Mercola stuff, I don't think soy is inherently bad, but like most other things, moderation is OK and don't believe the marketing hype. I'll stand by what I said in my previous post.
Hi Mawashi,

Great to hear you're from Japan. Listen, are

the few Jewish tribesmen in Japan doing well for

themselves ?

10-13-2005 10:52 AM

Re: Soy Products???
 
My thoughts are that whenever they start pushing a drug, a product, etc. on us and then begin lacing our food with it, the only reasonable explanation is that they're "gaining" and we're losing.


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