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Jimbo 10-24-2005 09:32 PM

The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
Natural Disasters & The Militarization Of America - :-o :-o :-o

Natural Disasters & The Militarization Of America – Global Research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051023&art icleId=1134

Global Research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/

<img src="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2005/121005paul.jpg">
Congressman Ron Paul


Republican Congressman Slams Bush On Militarized Police State Preparation
"Congressman Ron Paul has accused the Bush administration of attempting to set in motion a militarized police state in America by enacting gun confiscation martial law provisions in the event of an avian flu pandemic."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/121005slamsbush.htm
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truebeliever 10-24-2005 10:14 PM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
Ron Paul looks sick. I hope he has'nt contracted one of those rare cancers.

I cant help but think this avian bird flu is a distraction. From what i've been reading their is no way they will get away with it. The "science" behind things is SO BAD that it is bound to break through the media walls soon that this is a beat up of monumental proportions.

I would'nt rule out problems in Asia due to their health care and general social condition. But as for the rest of us? A non event. Perhaps it's irrelevant and the media coverage is doing it's job.

They're even going hell for leather with talk of militarization here in Oz.

truebeliever 10-25-2005 12:31 AM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
I'm awaiting the new avian flu to be delivered via asteroid collision.

truebeliever 10-25-2005 12:53 AM

The Poms Ar'nt Far Behind...
 
Quote:

Taking a new approach

By Professor Allyson MacVean, director of the John Grieve Centre for Policing and Community Safety


Tony Blair referred to a world fast forwarding into the future with momentous change and at unprecedented speed in his keynote speech to the Labour Party conference last month. This change, he argued, can either overwhelm us or make our lives better and our country stronger.

The need for change is not disputed: police forces themselves are the first to acknowledge the need to tackle crime more effectively and to better manage the risks that have recently been posed by complex and unpredictable threats to communities, such as terrorism.

Our understanding of what knowledge we have, or do not have, about criminality and its impact upon communities can only be tested by progressive initiatives, some which may be successful and some unsuccessful. These initiatives may include police methods that may be unconventional, built upon existing procedures or be transferred from practice elsewhere in the criminal justice system industry. Why, for example, should it not be possible to apply anti-social behaviour orders to criminals engaged in serious organised crime? If young people who engage in anti-social behaviour can be banned from geographical locations and disruptive families relegated to 'sin bins' with 24 hour security and CCTV, why can the same conditions not be imposed to those who harm society by more serious criminal activity?

http://www.janes.com/security/law_enforcement/news/pr/pr051020_1_n.shtml

Ah, here it comes. The throwing in of ALL criminal activity with "terrorism"...and then they take ya house, ya car, and maybe ya life.

Truly, the middle class saps are gunna lap this up! They create the shit social conditions and high unemployment and then offer the soloution...

Saturnino 10-25-2005 05:34 AM

Re: The Poms Ar'nt Far Behind...
 
It seems now they are coming with a new scare every 15 days...hurricanes, bird flu, bombings...what's next ?
It is obvious that the pace of the birth pangs is accelerating.

Jimbo 10-25-2005 08:36 AM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
The Posse Comitatus & Insurrection Acts - :-o :-o :-o

The Posse Comitatus Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The Insurrection Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act
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Jimbo 10-25-2005 08:37 PM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
Are You Ready For A Militarized Police Force? - :-o :-o :-o

<img src="http://imagelib.getlocalnews.com/images/newswriter/G18558.jpg">
Police State


Posse Comitatus Remembering Why
"The Posse Comitatus Act was enacted in 1878. It reads as follows (as revised in 1956):

"Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a Posse Comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than two years, or both.""
http://www.antiwar.com/bock/?articleid=7468

Bush Considers Changes To Posse Comitatus Act
"The Civil War-era law bars federal troops from carrying out law enforcement duties inside the United States during peacetime, short of suppressing an insurrection. Congress enacted the prohibition to curtail alleged excesses by Union occupation forces in former Confederate states after the Civil War."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/3377358

Posse Comitatus Breakdown - Armed Forces Assuming New Domestic Surveillance
"The U.S. military operates under the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the direct use of federal troops "to execute the laws" of the United States. The courts have interpreted this to mean that the military is prohibited from any active role in direct civilian law enforcement, such as search, seizure or arrest of civilians."
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/creep.htm

The Bush Administration Is Calling For The Repeal Of ‘The Posse Comitatus Act Of 1878’
"The Bush administration is calling for the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, a law passed after the Civil War to prohibit the deployment of federal military forces onto American streets to control civil action - otherwise known as martial law."
http://www.vallejonews.com/articles/index.cfm?artOID=92964&webpage=79&cp=60

Posse Comitatus Act Of 1878
"SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a Posse Comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment."
http://www.populistamerica.com/posse_comitatus_act_of_1878
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Jimbo 11-08-2005 07:38 PM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
The Military In New Orleans During Katrina ??? – :-o :-o :-o

PEOPLE OF THE DOME, REVISITED: Hurricane Katrina's Human Face
http://www.libertythink.com/2005/11/people-of-dome-revisited-hurricane.html

by Mitchel Cohen
Brooklyn Greens / Green Party of NY State
November 8, 2005

"I'm sick to death of hearing things from uptight narrow-minded pig-headed politicians. All I want is the truth. Just give me some truth."
- John Lennon

AS HURRICANE KATRINA RAVAGED THE GULF STATES, many organizations kicked into high gear to send relief to local groups in Mississippi and Louisiana, with no help from the government or formal relief agencies. Among them was the Malcolm X Grassroots movement, with whom the Brooklyn Greens shares an office on Atlantic Avenue. Tons of donated supplies poured into the office and were trucked to Jackson Mississippi, where they were distributed through community-based efforts.

I spoke daily with Les Evenchick, a Green who lives in the French Quarter of New Orleans. I was also in touch with New Orleans residents Malik Rahim and Mike Howell; the areas in which they live were dry and they were holding out as long as they could. The story they tell is shocking: U.S. and local government officials refused to allow water or food relief into New Orleans. They also turned off the drinking water. Hundreds of people died unnecessarily as a result.

And yet, there was no shortage of water or food being sent -- it was just not allowed into the City! When Green Party activists tried to donate water for the people in the Superdome a few days after the levees broke, armed soldiers pointed rifles at them and prevented them from delivering supplies. Even three Wal-Mart trucks loaded with drinking water were denied entry and turned away. No water was allowed into New Orleans. Evenchick says that "this was a brazen attempt to starve people out."

Attempts to starve civilians into leaving an area is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions. Who gave the order to block water and food from entering New Orleans? Who ordered the drinking water inside the city to be turned off? No one has yet answered those questions.

On Thursday of that first week, volunteers whose makeshift boats had rescued over 1,000 people were ordered to stop, under the pretext that it was too dangerous. The volunteers wanted to continue rescue operations. They said there was little risk, that desperate people had been welcoming them with open arms. The military "convinced" the volunteer rescuers at gunpoint to "cease and desist." They did the same to a state senator who had led a flotilla of hundreds of boats and rafts all the way from Mississippi to rescue people.

Who gave the order to block the volunteer rescue teams in New Orleans? No one has yet answered that question.

Officials claimed that people were trying to shoot down the rescue helicopters. In actuality, a couple of people shot into the air to signal helicopters to pick them up. Yet officials repeated this lie over and over, as justification for shutting down voluntary rescue operations and sending in thousands of fully armed military troops, along with private Blackwater mercenaries fresh from Iraq under orders to "shoot to kill."

Two U.S. military helicopter pilots plucked 110 people from the roofs of their flooded houses. We saw them on T.V. and cheered. When they returned to base they were called into the commander's office. They thought they were going to be given medals. Instead, as reported in the NY Times, their commanding officers reprimanded them and removed them from helicopter duty for "violating orders." Who gave the order not to rescue people?

For more than two weeks, hundreds of volunteer doctors and fire personnel -- including a squad from New York City -- were denied entry to New Orleans. They were dispatched, instead, to provide backdrop for Bush's photo-ops in other areas. The medical personnel were kept twiddling their thumbs, as people were dying.

A commanding officer of a police squad complained that his 120 cops were provided with only 70 small bottles of water. Hospitals were supplied with nothing. Could FEMA and local officials have forgotten to store bottles of drinking water in the Superdome, Convention Center and hospitals?

The only FEMA official on the scene in the early stages, Marty Bahamonde, has testified to Congress that he begged FEMA director Michael Brown for water, food, toilet paper and oxygen, saying that "many will die within hours." Brown's press secretary, Sharon Worthy, responded that the FEMA director needed more time to eat dinner at a Baton Rouge restaurant that evening. "He needs much more that [sic] 20 or 30 minutes," Worthy wrote. "Restaurants are getting busy," she said. "We now have traffic to encounter to go to and from a location of his choise [sic], followed by wait service from the restaurant staff, eating, etc." Let them eat gumbo.

In an interview by WWL-TV, Mayor Ray Nagin complained vociferously that Louisiana National Guard Blackhawk helicopters were being stopped from dropping sandbags to plug the levees soon after the breech. No repairs were allowed until long after the poor areas of New Orleans were totally flooded.

Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez and Cuba's President Fidel Castro offered millions of dollars and hundreds of doctors to help save lives in New Orleans. They were turned down. Millions of concerned citizens wanted to send assistance as well. FEMA recommended that they send contributions to "Operation Blessing," a front group for rightwing evangelist Pat Robertson. Robertson had recently televised a speech calling for the assassination of Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez.

Can all of these be explained by simple incompetence and negligence, or is there something more sinister going down?

The Saudization of New Orleans

Les Evenchick is an independent Green activist who lives in the French Quarter of New Orleans in a 3-story walkup. He points out that people were told to go to the bus depot to evacuate, but the bus station had closed down the night before. Unless you owned a car, Les continued, FEMA and state police would not let you leave.

Hundreds attempted to walk out of New Orleans; they were forced off the road and ordered back to the Coliseum or Superdome, where no water or food was available. As a consequence the vast majority of the so-called looters were simply grabbing water, food, diapers and medicine. "It's only because of them that old people, sick people, small children were able to survive," Les says. "But the 'anti-looting' hype was used to militarize the area, place it under martial law and disperse the population, mostly Black people, mostly the poor."

These were the people who had twice voted in huge numbers against the candidacy of George Bush, the only area in the state to have done so. The previous year, they also fought off attempts to privatize the drinking water supply, battled Shell Oil's attempt to build a Liquified Natural Gas facility, and tried to prevent the teardown of public housing -- battles in which Mayor Ray Nagin, who had contributed funds to George W. Bush's presidential campaign in 2000 and who was a registered Republican until a few months prior to the 2002 Mayoral election, sided with the oil companies and wealthy developers.

Some tourists in the Monteleone Hotel pooled their funds and paid $25,000 for 10 buses to get them out. The buses were sent (there was no short-age of available buses -- why didn't the government use this bus company?) but the military confiscated them for its own use. The tourists were not allowed to leave and were ordered to the Convention Center.

How simple it would have been for the government to have provided buses before the hurricane and throughout the week. AMTRAK says it offered free rides out of town but that City officials never got back to them to finalize arrangements. Evacuating 100,000 people trapped in the city should not that be that difficult, it's only 3,000 buses, fewer than come into Washington D.C. for some of the giant antiwar demonstrations. Even at $2,500 a pop -- highway robbery -- that would only come to a total of $7.5 million for transporting out of harm's way all of those who did not have the means to leave.

Thousands of New Orleans residents refused to evacuate. Some didn't want to leave their pets or their homes. Most have no money nor place to go. Green activist and former Black Panther Malik Rahim, who lives in the Algiers section -- which, like the French Quarter and several other areas above sea-level, remained fairly dry -- points out that the government could have and should have provided water and food to residents of New Orleans but did not do so intentionally to force people to evacuate by starving them out. This is a crime of the gravest sort.

French Quarter resident Mike Howell adds that the capability had been there to drive water and food right up to the convention center, as those roads were clear. "It's the same road the National Guard used to drive into the city," he said.

The evidence is overwhelming that the government intentionally did not allow food or water into New Orleans.

I recently emailed Governor Kathleen Blanco (a Democrat) asking, Who ordered the turn-off of the drinking water? There was no health reason to turn it off at the time, as the water is drawn into a separate system from the Mississippi River, not the polluted lake, and filtered through self-powered purifica-tion plants separate from the main electric grid. If necessary, people could have boiled their water -- strangely, the municipal natural gas used in stoves was still functioning properly as of Thursday night of that first week! I have not received a response from Gov. Blanco.

MSNBC interviewed dozens of people who had managed to get out during the first few days. Every single one interviewed was white.

On August 30, Yahoo front page news showed two pictures of people wading through water carrying supplies. The caption under the picture of a Black person read: "A young man walks through chest deep flood water after looting a grocery store in New Orleans." The caption under the picture of a White couple wading through the water pulling supplies reads: "Two residents wade through chest-deep water after finding bread and soda from a local grocery store." Got that? Whites "find"; Blacks "loot".

The people who are poor (primarily Blacks but many poor Whites as well) were locked in the Superdome and not allowed to leave -- five days of hell. Those who survived the first dome were then bussed out of the area to another stadium, the AstroDome in Houston.

Call them "People of the Dome."


The Grassroots Organizes Itself

Gulf Coast resident Latosha Brown reports that the first group to send emergency supplies was TOPS, The Ordinary Peoples Society, a prison ministry in Dothan Alabama founded and staffed by ex-offenders. They organized food, pooled their money for additional goods and brought the supplies to a second organization of former prisoners in Mobile who distributed them, while they went back to Dothan for more. "That's why we tell everybody now that it was felons who were the first to feed, the first to respond to need, the first to get up and do something. They didn't wait for permission or for a contract. That's real leadership." ("Rescue Came from the Grassroots: The People, Not FEMA, Saved Themselves," by Bruce Dixon, in The Black Commentator.)

Volunteer medics have now established free clinics with the Common Ground Collective: www.commongroundrelief.org in defiance of government edicts and machine guns. Others, working in solidarity with tribal leaders, have created a dedicated relief effort for Native American communities: www.intuitivepath.org/relief.html. Food Not Bombs volunteers have been feeding people all over the region, with no help from the government or Red Cross: www.foodnotbombs.net/dollar_for_peace.html.

From Day One, huge war profiteering corporations such as Halliburton, Bechtel and other private contractors began descending on the region, their pockets stuffed with billions of dollars in government handouts. Currently, thousands of poor homeowners and rental tenants -- including those unable to return to New Orleans just yet, having been evacuated to the far away domes -- are being evicted, says Mike Howell, who is organizing tenants to resist eviction. The phony "reconstruction" of New Orleans begins with the landgrab and with Mayor Nagin proposing gambling casinos, which he says would "rescue" the city (while destroying the remaining wetlands).

Many people are resisting this blatant confiscation of their lands and homes. If the resistance grows, New Orleans may soon become known as the first battle of the new American revolution.

[LibertyThink Note: This site and its owner look to the likes of Congressman Ron Paul (and Thomas Jefferson before him) for wisdom. There is much about the Green Party that we could not support. ...That said, this piece came into our box as an original submission, and it's a well-written and thoughtful piece.]
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Jimbo 11-08-2005 08:55 PM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
The Military In New Orleans During Katrina ??? :-o :-o :-o

Hurricane Katrina - Who Benefits
http://www.rense.com/general67/over80.htm

Brave New World Of Tesla Technology & Weather Control
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=9470

Weather As A Force Multiplier
http://www.uhuh.com/sky/forcex.htm
http://www.airapparent.ca/library/abstract/weatherasforce_owning2025.htm
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/af2025.html
http://www.freepressinternational.com/owning_weather_2025_8726344492827.html
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/v3c15/v3c15-1.htm

AirForce 2025
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/index.html
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Jimbo 11-09-2005 08:08 AM

Re: The Militarization Of America & The Posse Comitatus Act
 
Where Does "The Posse Comitatus Act" & "Torture" Meet ??? – :-o :-o :-o

Negroponte Won't Back Cheney On Torture
“"It's above my pay grade," he told a secret briefing for Senators last month”
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051107-015539-8991r

Allowing Torture & Ignoring Geneva’s Human Rights On Terrorists vs POWs
“"Gonzales has consistently pushed the limits of executive privilege in order to shield the Bush administration from oversight by Congress or scrutiny by the American people," added Aron.”
http://www.libertythink.com/2004/11/bush-picks-gonzales-to-succeed.html
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