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Shannow 10-26-2005 02:58 PM

whale beachings, sonar, and earthquakes.
Last year (Dec 1 2004),whales were beached in Tasmania, and on 23rd, there was an 8.3 Richter Earquake.

Currently, there are dozens of beached whales.

I've read in a few science mags that high energy sonar can be the culprit in beachings, as it effectively deafens the poor creatures.

Shannow 10-26-2005 03:01 PM

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truebeliever 10-26-2005 08:54 PM

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With the latest beachings they "sware" they wer'nt "around" at the time. Well, what is "around"?

They are lying pricks and it is blatently obvious that the cause of these beachings is over active use of sonar.

For a whale it's like us sticking our heads next to a gigantic 3000W subwoofer.

They must not only be deaf but dazed and confused.

Thumper 10-26-2005 09:02 PM

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heavensent 10-28-2005 03:23 AM

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I have been thinking about it recently and believe that over the last 5 years there have been so many beachings in Australia, that something must be going on. Not only that there have been an increase in shark attacks and dolphins found disorientated.
Currently there is a pole shift occurring and i've been thinking that this may be part of the reason for the increase in beachings.
Also the recent sun flares that have been quite extreame may have caused a electromagnetic disturbance that could have disorientated the whales.

truebeliever 10-28-2005 04:20 AM

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Nah, SONAR...


The US navy's new sonar, called Surtass LFA, carries 18 loudspeakers that generate 235 decibels each. In crude terms, that is equivalent to standing next to an Apollo moonrocket. At a range of 160 kilometres, the signal can still reach 160 decibels. That is 50 times louder than the US navy's official safety limit for human divers.

igwt 10-28-2005 04:37 AM

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truebeliever 10-28-2005 04:47 AM

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Nah, those SONAR are freakin RIDICULOUSLY loud and the low frequency search waves can literally 'shake' the inner ear apart. Whales close by would be killed.

Others may well be terrified and run for shallow water in confusion.

Whatever, i guess a 5 million dollar South Sea Island hopping study by a government department may be able to solve the mystery.

Khopesh 10-30-2005 06:57 AM

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Heard of the VLF "communications" arrays at North West Cape and in the La Trobe valley?

Not so top secret US instalations in Australia supposedly for very low frequency communications with their nuclear submarines in our or nearby waters.

The thing is they both have huge tesla coils underneath that poor millions of watts worth of low freq noise into the water and surrounding atmosphere and bear more of a semblance to early crude HAARP antenna.

When they switch these things on watch what happens to marine mammals even thousands of kilometers away.

Khopesh 10-30-2005 07:21 AM

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North West Cape is definatly atmospheric.
Gotta love uni astronomers that dont yet realise they shouldnt mention certain things, ill also post the "Bright Skys" link if I can find it again.

GCN notice #1394
G.J. Fishman, P.M.. Woods, C. Hossfield and L. Anderson report that the X-ray rich event of April 27, 2002 was detected as a Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance (SID) by Len Anderson in South Perth Australia, indicating that XRF 020427 (GCN 1383), produced a prodigious amount of ionizing x-ray flux. The disturbance is clearly seen, lasting about one minute, in a low-resolution all-day strip chart recording from a Very Low Frequency (VLF) radio receiver near Perth. Although a quantitative measure of the flux of this event could not be determined by this method, the SID magnitude (and thus the ionizing flux) is comparable to that observed from the Aug. 27, 1998 super-flare from SGR 1900+14 (Inan, et al., Geophys. Res. Lett., v.26, p.3357, 1999). A large flux of x-rays below ~15 keV was deduced from that flare (op. cit.). One intense gamma-ray burst, GRB830801, was also observed to produce a SID but at a much weaker level (Fishman and Inan, Nature v.331, p.418, 1988). The strong ionizing present in this burst confirms that this is a long, x-ray rich event of unknown origin, as suggested by in't Zand et al. (GCN 1383).
Note: SIDs have been used to study solar flares since the 1950s. In this case, the SID was observed as a major change in the propagation of a continuous VLF radio transmission at 19.8 kHz from Northwest Cape, Australia. The VLF radio receiver trace can be seen at:
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I cant find the original I remember reading but this elaborates a little on North West Capes "real" purpose, although I cant find anything on the LaTrobe valley installation.

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