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David 11-03-2005 05:45 PM

What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
I was at Daryl Smiths site and came across this section called

Is it OK to criticize "Truth Seekers"?
the address to that part is

It's by Eric Hufschmid who I have a lot of respect for.

It has to do with this page located at

It lists sites that are CIA. Looking over the lists I see some that are obviosuly not real truth seeker sites, just distractions but there are also many legit sites - even!

Is this place slinging the bull to confuse people even more or do they have valid claims?

I smell bull myself, what do you think?

truebeliever 11-03-2005 06:17 PM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
Thanx for these links.

This got my attention...

If you want crop circles and other mindless drivel, go to Coast 2 Coast. If you want hard hitting interviews and honest analysis, the French Connection is the right choice.

I hav'nt had a chance to have a good look yet.

Kaminski gives a plug. I have differences with Kaminski but he is undoubtably one of the best writers on the web on a difficult subject.

Then Makow.

Then Dave McGowan of The Center For An Informed America.

Alex Jones.


Wading through the bullshit is like riding a bicycle. You get better at it as you go along.

I used to think Ruppert was the bees knee's and sat at the left hand of the Father...just below Christ. Then you learn better.

igwt 11-04-2005 12:23 AM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
Interesting link. It lists the whos who of the alternative news world :-o

Draken 11-04-2005 12:32 AM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
I just had a quick look through.

Is there a site dealing with conspiracies that's NOT listed? :-D

I mean, it could well be the CIA saying to themselves: "Damn, these internet sites! We tried to hoodwink them and control them through our agent Victor Thorn (a.k.a. Scott Magufka) and his partner Lisa Guiliani of WING TV (articles <a href=";read=71407">HERE</a>, <a href="">HERE</a> and Kaminski on the case <a href="">H ERE</a>) but they didn't fall for it. I know! Let's list ALL conspiracy sites and say they are run by our own operatives; that will make everyone lose confidence in them. If we can't control them, we can discredit them. Let's see if it works."

Like always, everyone have to use their discriminating mind and their judgement and compare it to their own lived experiences. If they fit and complement eachother then there you go.

igwt 11-04-2005 01:23 AM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
Has anyone noticed that Cloakanddagger is down?

David 11-04-2005 04:33 AM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
I just did a whois lookup on the site and it's run by tucows.

Long ago I read that TUCOWS INC. is some kind of front group for Israel, can't remember from what source that was.

At any rate I'm going to stick to places like this one, the Alex Jones sites, Eric Hufschmid, and alike.

It's always good though to take a time-out and really think about the sources of information we use. I used to go to a lot but now I feel that it's mostly disinformation.

Draken 11-04-2005 07:15 AM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
Nice work, David!

This is the kind of vigilance everyone needs to develop and perfect and NEVER let oneself to become lazy or get hubris.

Ultimately, the only thing we all can trust is our own judgement. All the sites we get our assumed genuine information from are bound to be diluted with more or less 98% disinformation. We have to keep our spiritual sights firmly and unrelentingly on the universal concept of Ultimate Truth and trust that, if we honestly seek the Truth, we will be rewarded with the Truth.

this 11-05-2005 05:21 PM

Re: What do you make of "The CIA's Internet Fakes"
igwt, cloak seems to be up, here's a quote from it:


Cloak News Toronto - UPDATED
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald under National Security guidelines sealed two Grand Jury Indictments. Tom Heneghan (special Cloak guest) who has been on the forefront releasing first news on the work of the Grand Juries, has learned that RICHARD PERLE and PAUL WOLFOWITZ have been indicted (under seal) for violations of the Espionage Act and for misuse of classified information.
V.P. CHENEY named as unindicted co-conspirator.

White House National Security Advisor STEVE HADLEY has flipped.

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