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Barbara 11-06-2005 01:20 PM

20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The USA
20 Amazing Facts About
Voting in the USA
by Angry Girl

Did you know....
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as consultants and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.,2645,61640,00.html

13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of Global Election Systems when it was bought by Diebold. Even though he had been convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a consultant by Diebold and was largely responsible for programming the optical scanning software now used in most of the United States.

14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here:,2645,63298,00.html

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.,2645,65757,00.html 950

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.

20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.,10801,97614,00.html

NOTE: Please copy the above list and distribute freely!

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That's over 41 Million Americans.
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this 11-06-2005 04:00 PM

Re: 20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The USA
I couldn't get far in that Swiss site. However Barbara why not consider something closer to home - Canada?

Although things could change, our voting system is transparent, cheap, and quick. You could compare the 20 things wrong with the US system, which are of course wrong on purpose, or the 3 things that are right with the Canadian system.

First of all there is a technology called paper, and we write on it, this is a called a ballot. Seems to be a proven technology, so why change?

Second of all, there are people called volunteers, from all the parties (there are more than 2). These volunteers scrutinize every ballot as it comes out of the cardboard box (not a computer unfortunately).

Third of all, these volunteers want to go home - the same day! So, like, the votes are counted that day! Can you believe it?

We know who won the election, the night of election day. Of course this is amazing beyond belief. But what really is amazing is why America would want their system. Just another aspect of mind control - try asking a politician to justify black box voting....

Is it transparent, cheap, quick, and reliably so?

It can never be cheap compared to old ways, so obviously there is an ulterior motive.

Insider 11-06-2005 06:59 PM

Re: 20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The USA
How else could you get G. W. Bush elected President!!!

Jimbo 11-06-2005 07:08 PM

Re: 20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The USA
Election Fraud... :-o :-o :-o

Re: True Democracy's Checks & Balances – Post #44
Which Is What Happens When There Is No Checks & Balances…

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