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igwt 11-30-2005 10:39 PM

In the Beginning...
 
For an interesting article on the beginning of man and fallen angels and the coming NWO see link below.

Link

Saturnino 12-01-2005 03:30 AM

Re: In the Beginning...
 
Typical New Age stuff.
Lemuria, Atlantis, civilizations made by the aliens. We are supposed to be alien crap. Everything they can say to deny that God created man.

And then one day they come back to say they have come to help us and that we should worship the antiChrist. Hmmm...their plan is SO obvious.

Satan and the angels were created before man, but they were on their own.

It is possible that ancient people had the help of demons to build batteries and silly stuff like that, but God wouldn't allow anything that could compromise His plan for us. Just remember the Bable Tower story: a good example that nobody messes with His plan.

igwt 12-01-2005 07:36 AM

Re: In the Beginning...
 
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Saturnino wrote:
Typical New Age stuff.
Lemuria, Atlantis, civilizations made by the aliens. We are supposed to be alien crap. Everything they can say to deny that God created man.

And then one day they come back to say they have come to help us and that we should worship the antiChrist. Hmmm...their plan is SO obvious.

Satan and the angels were created before man, but they were on their own.

It is possible that ancient people had the help of demons to build batteries and silly stuff like that, but God wouldn't allow anything that could compromise His plan for us. Just remember the Bable Tower story: a good example that nobody messes with His plan.
Seemed the story to me...just pray the bit about, the aliens incognito aren't fallen angels, or we are in for some interesting times....

Bouncer 12-01-2005 09:07 AM

Re: In the Beginning...
 
Looks like a plausible gambit: demonic forces are waiting to manifest and influence people, but only if we buy the ET crap. Hiding in plain sight. Just like you said, Satan is the great counterfeiter: he'll give you life without spirit, sensuality without love, etc.

As for the Babel story, archeologists and antropologists are now beginning to admit that all of the different ancient languages have their roots in the Indus valley area, or just a stone's throw away from the ancient site of the tower. The people were dispersed from that area and went their separate ways, per God's judgement. Oye!

igwt 12-01-2005 10:43 AM

'1999 Yonaguni Expedition'
 
An interesting site detailing an expedition off the Japanese island of Yonaguni-jima. From the photographs it appears like an ancient monument resembling the Egyption pyramids.

Morien Institute

Saturnino 12-01-2005 10:45 AM

Re: In the Beginning...
 
More and more it is becoming evident that life could NOT have evolved by itself in a primordial soup. So they come with this theory that life came from another planet.

Here in Brazil we call this "pushing the issue with your belly"...meaning you just transfer the hot potato. You would end up exactly with the same problem, albeit in another planet's primordial soup ! It is so obvious, but nobody talks about it.

igwt 12-01-2005 10:54 AM

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Saturnino wrote:
More and more it is becoming evident that life could NOT have evolved by itself in a primordial soup. So they come with this theory that life came from another planet.

Here in Brazil we call this "pushing the issue with your belly"...meaning you just transfer the hot potato. You would end up exactly with the same problem, albeit in another planet's primordial soup ! It is so obvious, but nobody talks about it.
True. Have you read online, researchers discovered what they think is Atlantis, and it matches the description of Babel, in the bible?

truebeliever 12-01-2005 06:27 PM

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More and more it is becoming evident that life could NOT have evolved by itself in a primordial soup. So they come with this theory that life came from another planet.
Thomas Gold's book is instructive. "The Deep Hot Biosphere". It would seem to "fit" that oil is produced by a combination of bacteria and other elements already in the earth.

Life most likely "evolved" from this combination.

When certain "pea soup" inner earth contents (mainly hydrocarbons) are exposed to U.V rays, they produce primitive proteins...the first DNA.

This does'nt preclude God in any way. I have the doco on the "Intelligent Design" movement and will post soon. I am really aghast at why their is SUCH hoo haa? The "Intelligent Design" people are simply saying that to preach that it's all just a big "accident" is ridiculous. Their is a "direction" happening.

It's like your DNA structure which is BASICALLY a combination of simple sugars. Now, HOW in the hell do "simple sugars" in different combinations account for ALL that we see before us? My sugar in my coffee just sits their BUT it is essentially the same.

That their is an "intelligence" behind all that we see seems self evident.

Truly, the rationalist/materialists are gonna be dragged kicking and screaming back to the idea of a Supreme Being whether they like it or not. Most of them have nervous breakdowns anway. Such is what is needed to break the arrogance of the ego filled with Lucifers Pride.

Saturnino 12-02-2005 05:19 AM

Re: In the Beginning...
 
It is mathematically impossible, TB. The combinations needed for DNA to be formed can't be formed by casuality, not even in a trillion of a trillion years. Not to mention the problem of the spacial orientation of the proteins.

This is a fallacy that is very common today: they say that a bunch of monkeys in a billion years would type Shakespeare in a typing machine.

Certain structures can't be created by chance, because their development needs forces that are opposite to the ones working in billions of years. For example: your computer would never be created by chance on the surface of a planet, not even in a trillion years, because chance doesn't provide the actions and forces needed for the construction of a computer.

Maybe the sand blowing in a billion years would one day create a sand castle that looked like a computer, but NEVER a real one.

Same with DNA and life.

truebeliever 12-02-2005 05:50 AM

Re: In the Beginning...
 
Are we disagreeing?

The fact remains, when hydrocarbon goo is bathed in u.v light...primitive proteins form. How does that preclude God?

Read my post again SAT.

Quite clearly, their is an intelligence at work. That "intelligence" still has to work with something.


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