These Canadian guys were framed.
This could happen here.
Web forum linked cells
Two Toronto suspects took part in discussions
Thursday, June 15, 2006
TORONTO - Terror suspects arrested in several countries including Canada were members of a password-protected Internet forum where they chatted and shared jihadist propaganda, the National Post has learned.
Among those who participated in the English-language on-line forum were terror suspects who have since been arrested in Canada, the United Kingdom, the United States, Australia, Sweden and elsewhere.
They include Fahim Ahmad, one of the 17 arrested by the RCMP in Toronto on June 2 in connection with what police say was a series of terrorist plots in southern Ontario. He participated in discussions using several pseudonyms.
The forum and its apparent role as a link between accused terrorists in Canada and other Western countries were exposed by the SITE Institute, a U.S. non-profit group that monitors jihadist Internet activity.
Among the participants in the jihadist forum were a member who used the pseudonym c4explosive and another who called himself irhabi007 (irhabi is Arabic for "terrorist") and who is believed to be Younis Tsouli, 22, a London man arrested for terrorism last October.
"If protecting the honour of our sisters is terrorism, if saving our lands from the ravaging of the non-Muslims is terrorism ... if purifying our holy lands is terrorism then let the world bare [sic] witness that indeed we are terrorists," one posting says.
There are also postings from a member who uses the name Abdul Shakur. Abdul Shakur is the alias of Steven Vikash Chand, an Islamic convert who was among those arrested in Toronto.
On the forum, Shakur exchanges messages with Abu Omar, an alias used by Aabid Hussain Khan, a British man charged in the U.K. yesterday with murder conspiracy and terrorism.
Abu Omar has several postings concerning an outlawed Pakistani terrorist group called Lashkar-e-Tayiba, whom he calls "the best group in Kashmir" and who "recruited volunteers to fight for the Taliban. It would be really sad if they had left the path of jihad."
Other participants are Tariq Al-Daour, who was arrested in Britain last fall on terrorism charges; a man known as Abu-Usama El Swede, who was arrested in Sweden for his alleged ties to a Bosnian bomb plot but later released; and at least one person tied to a terror plot in Australia.
The postings on the site include al-Qaeda videos and English translations of statements by the late al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's lieutenant. There are also religious and ideological tracts that justify the killing of non-Muslims and other "infidels."
"It's just ideological jihad," said Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute. "It's really more like a propaganda site."
Canadian authorities have indicated their investigation into the Toronto group was launched due to suspicious Internet activity. It was unclear whether they were referring to this particular forum.
The fact that so many members of the same forum have been arrested on terror-related charges suggests the site has been closely monitored by authorities internationally.
Terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman said "virtual networks" now play an important role in the global jihadist movement, helping participants nurture their radical views.
"They know that they're no longer alone and isolated in the sense that there are others who think like them and there are others who enable them and egg them on," said Mr. Hoffman of the RAND Institute, who wrote the foreword to the book Terror on the Internet.
Forums have even more impact when the participants are logging on from different parts of the world to share their grievances, he said. That feeds the impression that there is a global war against Islam.
"If it's geographically diffuse I think that's more important because, don't forget, what they're responding to or what they're fighting against is what they perceive as a war being waged against Islam and against Muslims everywhere.
"If you're getting geographically disparate people who think exactly as you do, then you're going to believe there is a war everywhere. It's not just your own interpretation of your own parochial situation."
Other users of the forum are said to include two Atlanta men who were arrested on terrorism-related charges earlier this year. Both visited Toronto last March, and allegedly met with two of those arrested by the RCMP.
A dozen men and five juveniles are facing terror-related charges following Canadian police and intelligence investigations described as the largest since the Air India bombings.
The RCMP says the group trained at a rural property north of Toronto, tried to acquire guns and an explosive device and plotted attacks, notably truck bombings at the Canadian Security Intelligence Service regional headquarters near the CN Tower and the Toronto Stock Exchange.
The Post revealed last week the array of international connections between the Toronto investigations and related counter-terrorism cases in at least a half-dozen countries.
The RCMP probe called Project OSage and the CSIS investigation, Operation Claymore, are just two of several overlapping investigations that have resulted in more than 30 arrests worldwide, including an FBI case called Operation Northern Exposure.
The arrests began last Aug. 13, when Canadian customs officers caught two Toronto men, Yasin Mohamed and Ali Dirie, trying to smuggle semi-automatic handguns into Ontario. They have since been charged with smuggling weapons for terrorist purposes.
On Oct. 19, Bosnian authorities arrested a Swedish man in Sarajevo codenamed Maximus, an alleged recruiter for the Iraq insurgency, on charges he was planning a bomb attack.
Two days later, British police arrested three alleged members of the Mughal Network, Mr. Tsouli, Mr. Al-Daour and its senior member Waseem Mughal. Mr. Tsouli and Mr. Mughal have pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy to commit murder.
During a search of Mr. Tsouli's home, police seized video images that showed landmarks in Washington, D.C. Authorities said they were from a video filmed by Georgia residents Ehsanul Islam Sadequee and Syed Haris Ahmed, who were later arrested in the U.S.
The British arrests were followed by arrests in Sweden and Denmark. On Nov. 8, Australian police arrested 18 men they say trained in the Outback, were planning terror attacks and had scouted such targets as a nuclear reactor.
Police said the arrests had prevented a "catastrophic act of terrorism. Prime Minister John Howard said the terror suspects were driven by "perverted fanatical Islam."
The forum members have had extended discussions about Kashmir and the various Pakistani militant groups fighting there, supporting theories of a Pakistani connection to various Western terrorist plots.
"To their credit [Lashkar-e-Tayiba] have helped at times the Taliban and al-Qaeda," says one posting. But another member named Brother Mujahid argues that another group named Jaish-e-Mohammed "have been most supportive of the Taliban and al-Qaeda mujahedin."
Re: Internet Chill
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Someone should tell these terrorists that they need to be more anonamous. :lol:
They arrested some twits here. They were apparently planning to blow up some military targets here in Oz.
I would like to congratulate these men for their honour in targeting LEGITIMATE military targets instead of poor saps on trains...this just goes to show that most Muslims are less heartless than the Mossad arseholes who let off the C4 on the tube in London.
If Australia wants to run off and help invade other countries to secure Israels border expansion day dreams and other less than honourable geo-political aims than dont be surprised when local hot heads start planning revenge.
To the local Muslims...get smart and distribute video camera's. A far more potent weapon than blowing up dumb westerners who just want to watch the soccor (aka:bread and circus's) and forget about their elected governments plans to kill brown and black people in an attempt to get them shopping more and less of that time wasting praying. :-P
Re: Internet Chill
An ideological war is won with ideas and information, not with guns and bombs.
If they target what can be construed as the "Guilty", or "The Enemy", well then that is retribution, etc.
But TERRORISM targets the innocent; it is the nature of terrorism to inflict terror on everyone still alive: "Am I next? Will I or my loved ones also be blown to bits???"
And this is the spiteful, wrathful spirit that is truly from Hell - this spirit must be exposed for what it is and BROKEN for all the world to see.
Re: Internet Chill
Again, THESE GUYS WERE FRAMED by
the Canadian Government to
justify police/security and military budgets.
It's all a big lie by the Canadian Government.
Watch out everyone they could try and frame
you too. The Intelligence Agents
with the Canadian Government should be
tried in court for this, and for the waste
of taxpayers money. Henry Makow could write an article
Rather than "Canada’s 9/11," as it has been billed by the hysterical press, it all sounds like a bunch of amateurish, would-be Muslim Rambos who got carried away in on-line chat rooms with fantasy jive-talk, and were likely egged on by a police agent provocateur to order ammonium nitrate to make a bomb.
by Eric Margolis
The three Muslims prisoners who killed themselves this weekend in George Bush’s tropical gulag at Guantanamo renewed world attention on this despicable violation of human rights and American values. It would be rewarding seeing some of the neo-fascists who cooked up the Iraq War sent to cool their heels there, including the idiot San Diego Congressman who claimed prisoners were very lucky to be there since "they never had such good food in their lives…they even get chicken." But the prize for idiocy and stupidity goes to Rear Ad. Harry Harris who dismissed the suicides – a frightful sin in Islam – as being "an act of war against us." Right you are, Harry, never trust any of those sneaky Muslims!" Ever wonder how Germans could cheerfully justify their WWII concentration camps? Just as Admiral Harry and the Pentagon.
Just when we thought things could not get worse abroad, along comes ret. Captain and Senator John McCain who is urging the US to send more troops to Iraq. Obviously, he learned nothing from Vietnam – this from the man who would be president.
This week, court proceedings in Canada will begin for 17 young Muslims arrested last week and charged with a dazzling series of plots and crimes, including, it seems, blowing up Parliament in Ottawa, kidnapping and beheading the prime minister, and bombing major public buildings in downtown Toronto. These nefarious plots were all hatched in the wide open on the internet, where police and spooks were watching. Rather than "Canada’s 9/11," as it has been billed by the hysterical press, it all sounds like a bunch of amateurish, would-be Muslim Rambos who got carried away in on-line chat rooms with fantasy jive-talk, and were likely egged on by a police agent provocateur to order ammonium nitrate to make a bomb. The whole thing reeks to high heaven and was likely a piece of political theater designed to show know-nothing US Congressional Republicans, who have been screaming that Canada is a nest of al-Qaida terrorists, that concrete action is being taken. More to follow, stay tuned. In the remote 1950’s, the big scare was "Reds Under Our Beds!" Today, it’s "Muslims Under Our Matresses!"
June 16, 2006
Re: Internet Chill
RUSHDOONEY...i agree. It's a complete joke. The Feds of various countries have VAST new budgets to keep. They have virtually NO terrorists to chase. Just hot heads who speak openly over the phone.
Therefore, do not be surprised when co-ordinated raids on no bodies co-incide with budget review panels just like they did with Waco.
Yes, any of us could be next but I assure you the average Fed is an idiot who is fed various sanitised shit by his "Mossad/CIA/MI6" agents posing as informants. Framing Islam is the key so avoid wearing long robes and a long beard.
BOUNCER...agreed. If the idiots at Hamas had a brain they would raid Arafat's 50 million dollar Swiss bank account and distribute 10,000 video camera's to families in the occupied territories. Instead, they complain that the IDF targets civilians and then go off and do exactly the same thing to innocent Israeli's which goes to show the IDF and HAMAS deserve each other and are probably one in the same.
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