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Ozziecynic 12-29-2004 03:28 AM

NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
:-? :-? This forum calls itself the NWO yet many posters seem confused and differ in their understanding of just what the NWO is exactly and the method being used at the present time in history to bring us the allegedly conspired One World State!.

So I would like to simply ask all of you to reply to this post by explaining what you think the NWO is to you and what ideological and hence economic method you believe is being used at the present time to bring us the One World State.Do you think it is domination of Socialism or Ultra Free Trade capitalism.
So far I am not getting any consistency of opinion on the conspiracy just, inconsistency, confusion, contradiction paranioa and hypocrisy about all kinds of wacky percieved threats some crediable some not crediable at all.

Some here seem to be happy with the status quo but others here feel threatened by some imaginary socialist plot, while others here describe being anti financial institutions and Corporations which comes across as socialist if not quasi socialist.

With these different and contradictory positions anyone like myself coming to this site comes away very confused indeed.Especially since I came here thinking I knew what NWO was all about but after several weeks of posting here it is not so clear I do.
I thought NWO was simply another label for Globalistion which i understand to be an ultra capitalist U.S cultural domination not some kind of Socialist state as some deluded posters here seem to be claiming.
However now it seems many posters are simply telling me I am wrong for calling it an ultra capitalist domination.Further some posters here seem more than happy with the status quo of Ultra Capitalism and would like to see further liberalisation of international trade and further Privatisation ala Ayn Rands or Adams Smiths school of Economics.

I would like definative straight answer if possible because i am begining to feel iam wasting my time posting on this forum so many people are simply not onboard in agreement over anything. I am also coping abuse for posing straight forward questions which i feel i dont deserve.
Henry Makow has claimed to be a Larouche Movement Supporter (I have been an associate Australian member) but i fail to see how this could be the case because the Larouche movement is atleast quasi Socialist and most long term posters here seem to be far more right wing economically so something about this forum simply doesnt add up.
Could you all explain the purpose of this forum. I would appreciate your well thought out responses to clear up this confusion once and for all:-?

john 12-29-2004 04:01 AM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
Ozziecynic, could it be that your problem is too much focusing on labels like "conspiracy", "socialist" or "ultra capitalist"? May be you should just open your eyes and try to understand reality without the filters of the labels. Of course, this is very difficult if you trust the mainstream media since they are pretty good at showing you oasis mirages where there is only desert.

Just go ahead my friend, use your eyes and your brain, understanding is not given in a pack ready to consume. Reading the articles of Henry Makow and many others can help you understand the reality of what is called the "New World Order". The more you observe and think by yourself, the more you will be able to select among the real information and the garbage. And the more you will be able to stay free in your mind, which is the real treasure on the island called "life".

Ozziecynic 12-29-2004 07:28 AM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
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Ozziecynic, could it be that your problem is too much focusing on labels like "conspiracy", "socialist" or "ultra capitalist"? May be you should just open your eyes and try to understand reality without the filters of the labels. Of course, this is very difficult if you trust the mainstream media since they are pretty good at showing you oasis mirages where there is only desert.
:-? No this is not my problem at all!
My knowledge never comes from the mainstream.
If it did i doubt i would be posting on a forum like this or reading conspiracy literature not many people in their 20 and 30s read this stuff in Australia. Not that Makows writing site is anything like this forum.The calibre of some posters here is an insult to his work!.

I think you make too many assumptions about me sir!And what is more you didnt really answer my post you simply skipped it!.I hope few more people can answer it better! :-?

rangergord 12-29-2004 11:06 AM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
I figured out where you were coming from the other day. You're an IndyMedia.com style anti-globalist.

For those who don't know, IndyMedia is collectivists with a few anarchists opposed to globalization and privatization.

Where part of the confusion comes is that IndyMedia was created by and continues to receive it's funding from the Robber Baron Foundations.

So you need to ask a question.

Why would monopoly capitalist-globalists fund their opposition?

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What is the NWO? It's best you find that answer yourself. Type "Ruskin Rhodes Webb Wells" into google and have fun.

thokhanCep 12-29-2004 11:27 AM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
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This forum calls itself the NWO yet many posters seem confused and differ in their understanding of just what the NWO is exactly and the method being used at the present time in history to bring us the allegedly conspired One World State!.
Ozzie you live in a franchise of the United Kingdom as do I here in Canada.
The entire money game has been corrupted.
I would like you to read a post sent here from one of the fine members who visits this website:
Phone call to the feds
NWO = TOTAL CONTROL of everyones every move
Cashless society awaits all of us in the "system".
Credit, debit, finger prints, iris scans, and facial recognition - to buy some bread? maybe
who really knows .. unless you are the NWO
disinformation agents? YES truth seekers? YES
Its a forever changing model to keep the crowd guessing.
There is no way to pin point the next step unless you are creating the steps.
Why would you use one system of controlling the masses when you could have 10 ways and create mass confusion?

chowdah 12-29-2004 12:21 PM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!?
 
I think that we all have different ideas about who and what the NWO really is. I feel the NWO encompasses all evil and suffering on this planet we call home. All wars have been financed by the NWO which would lead you to believe that the NWO is in favor of death and distruction, disease and starvation...anything that cuts the population down. The NWO wants the worlds population decreased by 80% so they can survive. They want control of all natural resources and food supplies so they can survive. They want the U.S. to fail so we become a 3rd world nation begging for help from the all controling world government that they are trying to install right now. It is not just the U.S., but Russia, Europe, Ausralia, Canada, South America, etc. etc. It is all encompassing. the NWO has chosen to take aver the American government because we have the most money, the strongest military and the most dumbed down, nonthinking population in the world. Our country is full of sheeple who do not pay attenton to what is going on, only that they can have there big meals and fancy cars and big houses. As long as there is a lap of luxury here in the states, no one is going to say anything. Our only hope is that all of us who are aware can join together under one common goal to save humanity from enslavement and domination.

PEACE

sablefish 12-29-2004 01:06 PM

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The Permanent Revolution

"The Permanent Revolution is the most over looked process of modern, Western, industrial society's history. This revolution is an ongoing evolution of Capitalism into Socialism, which will eventually lead to the implementation of a self-regulating, classless society. In essence Capitalism, Socialism and Communism are integeral parts of the same perpetual procedure."

~~~snip~~~
1. The Permanent Revolution is a continuous process to remove the world's various national sovereignties.

2. If Capitalism is left on its own unimpeded it will naturally evolve into Socialism that will create Communism.

3. When Capitalism quits expanding it falls into crisis. And when Capitalism falls into crisis it resorts to some form of Facism.

4. The Republican Party [is a member of] the International Democratic Union.

5. Through the IDU, member parties can exchange policy ideas, assist each other to win the political argument and to win elections.

The NWO is the global aristocracy of bankers, and multinational corporate ownership and control of everything. The governments they install will run all businesses, and social interactions.. With a Noahide legal system

The NWO is Global Communism under a new name.

This article explains how we moved from Capitalism, to Socialism on our way to the final goal of Communism.

Born_To_Die 12-29-2004 02:56 PM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
Quote:

rangergord wrote:
I figured out where you were coming from the other day. You're an IndyMedia.com style anti-globalist.

For those who don't know, IndyMedia is collectivists with a few anarchists opposed to globalization and privatization.

Where part of the confusion comes is that IndyMedia was created by and continues to receive it's funding from the Robber Baron Foundations.

So you need to ask a question.

Why would monopoly capitalist-globalists fund their opposition?

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Just the same reason they funded that fat

lying son of bitch Michael Moore ... they

know the mood of the world very well and want

to steer this ferocious appetite for the

truth towards their poisoned food.

nohope187 12-29-2004 03:06 PM

Re: NWO The Method Used At The Present time! Marxism or Ultra Capitalist Corp Monopoly Domination!??
 
Yeah, I read about "Perpetual Revolution" in either in ConspiracyPlanet or Breaking All the Rules. good point, Sable. :-P

freeman 12-29-2004 03:37 PM

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This article explains how we moved from Capitalism, to Socialism on our way to the final goal of Communism.
I love the Idaho Observer.
It's even more nourishing than their potatos.
:-D


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