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BlueAngel 09-18-2007 09:11 AM

University Student Tasered During Kerry Speech

Jimbo 09-18-2007 10:32 AM

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UnFucking believable !!!

Jimbo 09-18-2007 10:59 AM

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It gets worse. Check these out, specially the 2nd one, from the Alex Jones site...

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

George_Bush 09-18-2007 11:30 AM

Re: University Student Tasered During Kerry Speech
Repercussions are in order.

Jimbo 09-18-2007 12:50 PM

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Quite a few years ago I had just gotten up, & back then I used to take a jog in the mornings before showering & going off to work. It was better than coffee. Anyhow, I crossed the bushes bordering the parking area of the apartment complex where I used to live. As I crossed the bushes, some guy dressed in dark blue, almost black pants, tee-shirt, belt, guns, the whole thing, grabbed me by my elbow w/ his hand & a hand grip around the elbow. I wasn’t expecting that, but after a quick look at the guy, he did look like a cop so I didn’t do anything, or resist in any way, shape or form. I felt that, had I even pulled slightly my arm away from his grip, that would have been it. He would have used his “power” granted by the state to throw me, beat me, & abuse me any way he chose, & I would have not been able to do anything w/o an unfair legal confrontation. Since he did not hit me or hurt me, at this point, I just followed him, as he was leading me by his grip. He brought me over to his police car, which was parked across the street. Told me to place both hands on top of the roof of the car. He pushed my legs apart by giving them a light kick w/ his foot. Yes offensive, but yet, I had not been hurt in any way. He padded me down, searching for weapons. While I was left in this position for about 10 minutes (or so in my mind), he asked me for my name & address (I didn’t have an ID on me), which they checked on their radio. After the 10 minutes had elapsed, he said that I was free to go. I asked why I had been detained, & he said that there had been reports of someone smashing car’s windshields in the mornings & they were just checking out the scene. According to them, I did not meet the description (thank God). So they let me go. I started jogging & as I turned left & towards where I normally used to go jogging, down the street, there were, I think, at least 5 police cars all lined up down the street, down the same path I was taking. As I jogged by, I saw each & everyone, there outside of their cars. I didn’t say anything, just kept going. I had been “temporarily detained”, which is technically an “arrest”. After that, in different occasions, years latter, & for other reasons I am not going to describe here, it happened again.

Now my point is that, although I do believe in our rights, as granted by our precious Constitution, I know those same rights had been violated when I had been illegally detained. The officer committed “multiple felonies”, by falsifying evidence to have me arrested for something other than the fake crimes he mocked & used, to pull me over & (illegally) justify the stop (if that makes any sense). However, since the stop was illegal, & thus fabricated, my case should have been thrown out of court, & then again, should have never happened. But no, the judge doesn’t care either. They actually encourage the cops to violate our rights, hoping that the majority of us does not have the time, money, & resources to waste in their system. Just “pay up” & “shut up”. So they get away w/ it. Each & every day. It’s called “organized crime”.

We don’t live in a free or even fair society any longer. I am not sure if we ever did. Our rights are being violated each & every day. Those that are sworn in to abide by the Constitution, don’t.

If you are going to challenge the establishment by asking questions reporters don’t even dare to ask, be ready for what’s coming to you. The second they grab you, you are under “arrest”, even if it temporary. If you don’t comply in any way, they call that “resisting arrest”, & now you are under a new & completely different set of rules. If you do decide to “resist arrest” you’d better be ready for all of the consequences, both physically & legally coming your way.

If I would have been in that audience, I would have stood up walked out. If most students, those offended by what happened, would have left & emptied out the auditorium, that would have sent a strong message.

Re: Collapse Of US As A Super-Power - Post #7
Standing Up For Freedom - This Is Serious...

Had he not resisted, & followed them, perhaps he would have been released, which is a much better outcome, at least on the surface, than to be thrown around, tasered, & thrown in jail, as it happened to him.

This is not about physical power, it is about the “legal power” of the establishment. The 2 forces are not equal. A good example, look at “Alex Jones” recent arrest. “He did not resist”. Otherwise he would be right now in so much legal & thus financial trouble he would not be of any help to anyone, not even himself. (Alex, if you are reading this, correct me if I am wrong).

One time, in a previous job, some guy that had worked for the government before, he did actually serve for some branch of the armed forces, told me, “Dude, if you are going to fight them, you have to fight them by “their own rules”. Otherwise, you are always going to loose – period”.

First we have to change the rules by which they control us. If the Constitution was obeyed, things like this would never happen. Like Ron Paul says, “just a healthy respect for the 2nd Amendment” would do wonders.

The reason they don’t obey the Constitution & get away w/ it is what we need to immediately & w/o delay look into.

Why is our country no longer a Republic, & why is our Constitution, no longer the law our government abides by? Why aren’t them, the real criminals, prosecuted to the full extent of the law? Why is it that no one enforces the Constitution? Have you noticed that? Perhaps, those in positions of power, & w/ the power trusted in them to enforce this power, are all “secretly” following the commands of a “secret order”, where agendas are established “in secret”, orders are issued “in secret”, & their laws are “sealed in secret”. That would explain why “secret societies’ are so, so important to them.

Whenever they have a public discussion, you can be assured, it is nothing but a “dog & pony show” for us to consume. The best politicians have been those who have been able to amuse us, for the longest periods, & have managed to keep us believing they were actually doing something for us. Which in fact they haven’t. They were just working on their “secret” agendas, we didn’t know anything about. Look at all of the world trade agreements that have been & are continued to be done & sealed in complete “secrecy”.

They don’t even talk to us. They talk to themselves. Pay attention next time anyone of them gives a speech, & notice this.

One thing is clear to me. The attorneys write laws to protect the government from the population. Law enforcement is only there to protect them, their schemes, & their “secret agendas”. When government officials, if ever, use the phrase “we the people” (except JFK, Martin Luther King, etc., which were assassinated), what they really mean is, “We The Elite” – they are not talking about us. Everything is about them, their control, their power, their wealth, & their destiny. We are not part of their equation, at least not yet.

Jimbo 09-19-2007 01:30 PM

Re: University Student Tasered During Kerry Speech
I have seen an internet video in the past where both Bush & Kerry were questioned about the "Skull & Bones" society, & they both "just laughed about it" & pretty much (both of them) gave the same answer, "it is so secret I can't talk about it". Also I have seen / heard (from these videos) that they are "cousins" & related to the "Queen of England".

Yahoo Search: Bush Kerry Cousins Queen st=0&vf=all&vm=p&fl=0&p=bush+kerry+cousins+queen

The following link shows "cousins" relationships by "family tree" & shows Bush & Kerry being "cousins" & related to the Queen.

Cousin Relationships Calculated by the Family Forest

Obviously both recent presidential elections were "fraudulently manipulated" right on our face, by many means, in many states, & for the purpose of forcefully "electing" the already "secretly selected" president. Kerry belongs to the same group, so he is just going to go along w/ it & play it along. That's one of the things they are "paid" to do. Being secret members of one of the most influential fraternities known, they are obviously going to participate along w/ their secret orders, making no waves.

In this MSNBC video, there is some university official talking to the press & he goes on & says, "The black guy said civil discourse didn't occur. I have admitted that. I am embarrassed by it. And I don't want it to happen again." Obviously they are "shifting the blame away" from "why" they attacked the student, & now "turning the focus" into just the "resisting arrest" issue. So, "trivializing" the whole "freedom of speech" issue, & the very relevant questions made by the student to Kerry about very important issues, as they relate to our country's "freedom", specifically asking about "election fraud", & membership in a "secret society", which is not how a supposedly "open" government should operate, thus validating our doubts.

University of Florida Journalism Student Incident - MSNBC Video

The one thing we can conclude by witnessing the "unspoken" word here, by seeing what happened & hearing what was not said, & that is that, in our country, right now,
- Freedom of speech is dead (the US Constitution is "irrelevant" to our current form of government)
- Talking about real issues & specially about truth - is not "tolerated" (as in a "totalitarian state")
- Police abuse & brutality is the norm (they want you to know who is in charge of who - not for the "people" but for the "state")
- There is no "real" freedom in America
- We could say that the U.S. is right now under a "benevolent dictatorship" - because it could be a hell of a lot worse.

George_Bush 09-19-2007 02:08 PM

Re: University Student Tasered During Kerry Speech


September 19, 2007, 9:25 am
Taking Sides in a Tasing
By Mike Nizza

Tags: florida, law enforcement, politics, protests, youtube

About 200 people are estimated to have attended a protest on Tuesday against the way Andrew Meyer was handled by police.(Photo: Doug Finger/The Gainesville Sun, via Associated Press)Take it from Andrew Meyer, the University of Florida student hit with the Taser shot heard around the world via YouTube: Did the cops do anything wrong?
“I am not mad at you guys,” the police report [pdf] quoted him as saying in the ride to jail. “You didn’t do anything wrong, you were just trying to do your job.”

Does that mean that Mr. Meyer felt that he was simply doing his job as well? Friends of his told The Gainesville Sun that despite his reputation as a prankster and his apparent flair for self-promotion, exhibited on his personal Web site,, the dramatic exit from Senator John Kerry’s appearance on campus “was not any sort of publicity stunt.”

But one of the officers said that “his demeanor completely changed once the cameras were not in sight,” shifting in a matter of minutes from the kicking-and-screaming coiner of the new catchphrase “Don’t Tase me, bro” to “laughing and being lighthearted.” Then, they say, he asked them whether the news media would be on hand when he arrived at the police station.

Moreover, one of the widely circulated videos of the incident was filmed with his own camera. As he pushed his way toward the microphone to put his questions to Senator Kerry, he handed his camera to Clarissa Jessup, a student he didn’t know, and asked her to record him.

Then, just as his diatribe was heating up, he turned to Ms. Jessup and said, “Are you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?,” according to the police report.

Mr. Meyer has been released from police custody and has yet to be formally charged with either resisting arrest or disturbing the peace. Two officers involved in the incident have been placed on leave pending an investigation of their conduct in the incident.

While the state attorney’s office tries to make up its mind what to do, Florida students and other Facebookers are continuing to debate whether Mr. Meyer’s rights were violated.
For an interesting discussion on whether he should’ve been ejected (it may have been his mention of a sexual act, not a secret society, that prompted the heave-ho) and whether what he did amounted to resisting arrest, check out this forum, which requires registration.

If nothing else, the episode left Senator Kerry looking aloof, a criticism lobbed at him regularly during the 2004 campaign. As the incident unfolded, he tried to use his microphone to lighten the mood, seemingly unaware of the seriousness of the situation. Later, he said that he had not been aware until afterward that the student had been shocked with a Taser.

And while even Mr. Meyer’s friends concede that he unraveled a bit during his on-mike, on-camera rant, the senator on the receiving end of the rant said he regretted “enormously” that “a good healthy discussion” was cut short.

George_Bush 09-19-2007 03:14 PM

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George_Bush 09-19-2007 03:47 PM

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YSNC: From evidence that reporters have gathered a very disturbing picture is beginning to emerge.

Multiple witnesses of the event have now come forward claiming that police almost seem 'prompted' to move forward at the very words 'Skull & Bones'.


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George_Bush 09-19-2007 04:17 PM

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The reports we have received are that police were triggered to arrest the student by the words Skull & Bones.


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