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Peter 12-05-2007 08:13 PM

Disinformation agents: Alex Jones and Jeff Rense
This is a good website which explains part of the background of two of the main disinfo agents in the not so alternative media: Alex Jones and Jeff Rense.

Another patriotic high point in Agent Jones Career:

Alex Jones betrays the Texas Gray family.

redrat11 12-05-2007 08:41 PM

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I think the Flouride has damaged your braincells, WINGNUTTV has been debunked for at least two years now, they are ZIO-SHILLS like yourself and BA, and yes Alex and Rense too, At least several hundred others bud, you need alot of RESEARCH to catch up on things STEIN. Read this I'm sure it will make your eyes pop..LOL

Peter 12-06-2007 05:01 PM

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redrat11 wrote:
I think the Flouride has damaged your braincells, WINGNUTTV has been debunked for at least two years now, they are ZIO-SHILLS like yourself and BA, and yes Alex and Rense too, At least several hundred others bud, you need alot of RESEARCH to catch up on things STEIN. Read this I'm sure it will make your eyes pop..LOL
There is lots of good info on this site. Jews are indeed at the core of the NWO conspiracy, but its not just jews. The Rothschilds are the leaders of pack and they are jewish. This does not mean that they care about jewish people. See what they did in ww2. They killed an untold number of their own. Hitler also was part jewish. Conclusion: the illuminist jews really do not care about being jewish or not. Jewishness is irrelvant to them and to the New World Order conspiracy. So stop blaming only the jews and go to the next level. Blaming only the jews is very beneficial for them by the way. Thanks for furthering their agenda.

Peter 12-06-2007 05:13 PM

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The Alex Jones show is on the Genesis Communication networks (GCN). GCN is affiliate with ABC. ABC is owned by Disney. The Disney's are one of the leading illuminati families. So here we have fake patriot Alex Jones blaming the Illuminati for everything, while he has strong ties to one of the companies of one of the leading illuminati families.

Alex Jones likes to make documentaries like the one about the Bohemian Grove. This whole documentary was staged to discredit or contain the stories about what is really going on at this place. Its impossible for any person to enter this place unauthorized. No journalist has been able to get in there. Only agent Alex. The Bohemian Grove is an important place for the illuminati. With the technology they possess its unlikely that somebody can just walk into that place. Alex Jones Bohemian Groove documentary tells us nothing. One hour of the documentary is driving to the Groove. Pretty useless footage. Than he says he's in the Groove and can just happily walk around there. On his tour he basically tries to tell us that its just an old boys club. He does not mention anything controversial about what is going on there. Than at the end there is the ceremony with the owl. Nothing new either. These pictures were published earlier already. Than we see the fake human sacrifice. Alex tries to convince us they only do fake human sacrifices. Conclusion from this documentary. Nothing really wrong what is happening there. Just some powerfull people joining in some odd but innocent rituals.

The real story which Alex does not tell ofcourse is the homosexual behaviour the rich and the powerfull are involved in over there. He does not tell about the hookers flown there, male and female to serve the lust of these psychopaths. He does not talk about the sex slaves serving their. With other words, he does not tell anything.

Peter 12-06-2007 05:58 PM

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What Alex Jones does not tell about the bohemian groove.

The Bohemian Club has an Annual Summer Encampment, a two-week retreat for the rich and powerful that President Herbert Hoover once called “the greatest party on Earth.” The club’s famed annual gathering has been held for more than 100 years at the 2,700-acre Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, about 70 miles north of San Francisco in Sonoma County. It draws in notables such as President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Dow Chemical Chairman Frank Popoff, as well as actors and other luminaries.
The annual gathering near the Russian River, which was first held in 1879, starts with the “Cremation of Care” ritual, in which the club’s mascot is burned in effigy to an owl god (Moloch), symbolizing a freedom from care. Members also perform several plays, and gourmet food and expensive wine are plentiful. While the club was formed in 1872 by a group of San Francisco journalists, the male-only club now bars journalists from membership to protect the group’s privacy. Membership is coveted, and people routinely wait 10 or 15 years before gaining admittance. There are currently about 2,700 members.

The world’s most prestigious summer camp, The Bohemian Grove, is fiercely guarded. The 2,700-acre retreat is the country extension of San Francisco’s all-male ultra-exclusive Bohemian Club to which every Republican President since Herbert Hoover has belonged. Some 20% of members engage in homosexual activity. They watch (and participate in) plays and comedy shows in which women are portrayed by male actors. Although women are not allowed in the Grove, members often leave at night to enjoy the company of many prostitutes and mind controlled sex slaves who come from around the world for this event. Employees of the Grove have said that no verbal description can accurately portray the bizarre behavior of the Grove's inhabitants.

Besides this type of merriment, the annual gathering serves as an informational clearing house for the elite. The most powerful men in the country do their "networking" here. At these gatherings, men representing the government, military-industrial and financial sectors meet and make policy decisions. The Manhattan Project, which produced the first atomic bomb, was conceived in the Grove in 1942. Other decisions made at the Grove include who our presidential candidates will be. There are speeches, known as "Lakeside Talks," wherein high-ranking officials disseminate information which is not available to the public at large. When powerful people work together, they become even more powerful. The Grove membership is wealthy, and becoming more so, while the middle class is steadily becoming poorer. This close-knit group determines whether prices rise or fall (by their control of the banking system, money supply, and markets) and they make money whichever way the markets fluctuate. They determine what our rights are and which laws have effect, and then selling candidates to us via the media which they own. Important issues and facts are omitted from discussion in the press, or slanted to suit their goals, but they are discussed frankly at the Grove. With its high-powered clientele, coveted privacy and cabalistic rituals, the Bohemian Grove has prompted considerable suspicion.

It was formed one night in 1872 by five bored news hawks on the San Francisco Examiner to promote good fellowship (i.e.,wild drunken parties) and ‘to help elevate journalism to that place in the popular estimation to which it is entitled.’ Today, a prospective member faces an interrogation that, according to one club man, ‘would satisfy the KGB.’ There is a waiting list of 1,500 notables, all eager to pay the $2,500 initiation fee and $600-a-year dues.” Some past members include, George P. Shultz, Stephen Bechtel, Jr., Gerald R. Ford, Henry Kissinger, William F. Buckley, Jr., Fred L. Hartley, Merv Griffin, Thomas Haywood, Joseph Coors, Edward Teller, Ronald Reagan, A. W. Clausen, George Bush, William French Smith, John E. Swearingten, Casper W. Weinberger, Justin Dart, William E. Simon, and hundreds of other prominent politicos and businessmen.” Up until recently, our knowledge of Bohemian Grove was that it is the exclusive elitist hideaway of supposedly adult wheeler dealers, a.k.a. Washington statesman and prominent personalities.
Some may dismiss their behavior as immature, even pitiful, acted out by emotionally disturbed individuals, and not worth attention. However, this is actually where Bush, Cheney, and their friends (2700 members)"the governing elite", gather to take part in bizzare, satanic rituals. Recent information will radically change the perception of Bohemian Grove. Not merely drunkenness, unbounded use of alcohol and drugs with vague homosexual tones, but reported activities much more serious – kidnapping, rape, paedophilia, illegal detention of children, sodomy and ritual murder. Investigation is blocked under the 1947 National Security Act.(!) For decades, there have been vague rumors of weird goings on in Bohemian Grove in more remote parts of its 2700 acres. Reliable reports claim Druidic like rituals - druids in red hooded robes marching in procession and chanting to the Great Owl (Moloch) - a funeral pyre with “corpses”. (Scores of men work in the Bohemian Grove as servants, so this party is fairly well established.)

An article in a local community newspaper, The Santa Rosa Sun, reported on the Cult of Canaan and the legend of Moloch in place at Bohemian Grove. The Moloch Pagan Cult of Sacrifice is human sacrifice. About the mid 1980s there were rumors of murders in remote parts of the property. A local police investigation went nowhere. State investigators on related criminal acts went nowhere. An observer and near victim has described the Bohemian Grove inner hideaways, the closed sanctum, even the decor at secret locations, places where no outsider goes (or servants according to our sources). Apparently there is an UNDERGROUND lounge (sign spelled U.N.derground) a Dark Room, a Leather Room and a Necrophilia Room.

Also he reported: “Slaves of advancing age or with failed programming were sacrificially murdered at random in the wooded grounds of Bohemian Grove and I felt it was only a matter of time until it would be me.” This potential victim survived. Others reportedly did not. These cults were based on human sacrifice. Why would such a resort reproduce cult ceremonies? At the minimum, it demonstrates an attraction to the ceremonial practices of the occult, i.e. adoration of destruction, blood, barbarity and sacrifice of children. In brief, the charges are consistent with the tenants of Bohemian Grove as played out in ceremony. This is not a resort devoted to, for example, tennis or swimming. It is apparently devoted to blood sacrifices.
There is a videotape put out by radio talk show host Alex Jones,, who shows on his Web site the bizarre, Luciferian ceremonies that occur there. It was taken surreptitiously by Jones from as far as 200 yards from the owl idol during the grove's annual and highly secret "Cremation of Care" ceremony. But Jones says he could make out the form of a wrapped infant, which he believed was real and alive, being sacrificed. At their corporate-feudal Shangri-La, the New World Order people are bringing to birth a new age in which ritual sacrificing of live humans shall be considered normal and healthy.

These ruling class elitists are certain that by convincing the Left and the Right that each other is the main enemy, they can orchestrate a crescendo of conflict between both camps, knock both out, and eliminate substantial sectors of resistance to the New World Order in the process. The denizens of the Grove are well aware of the critical juncture of time we now live in. After inducing the various elements of the opposition to fall upon each other, perhaps they will be able to continue their bizarre behavior, and human sacrifices, in a more open and accepting environment. Perhaps the behavior we see at the Bohemian Grove is just a taste of the type of society they envision for all of us in the near future.

Peter 12-06-2007 06:02 PM

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This person reveals more in one page than agent Alex does in his whole 1.5 hour movie. The author mentions that the camp is heavily garded. How could Alex get in there? How does he know were the cremation of care takes place? The bohemian groove is 2700 acres big. Did he have a map of the area? The Bohemian Groove is a very secretive club. How did Alex get a map? How does Alex now were to go? It smells like an inside job from a fake patriot.

Peter 12-06-2007 07:38 PM

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Hitler's father or grandfather was a son of one of the rothschilds. This would make him somewhat Jewish but not much. What you said here about the jews and zionists is also what I think is going on. This rat guy is on the wrong track however by blaming everything only on the jews. That only benefits the illuminati as you already mentioned. The argument of anti-semitism is one of the strongest weapons the zionist (just another front of the illuminati) have. The argument of anti-semitism allowed them to establish their fake homeland.

Peter 12-07-2007 04:08 PM

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Lets talk about Jeff Rense. Many people seem to like him and so did I. Know I know better. Jeff Rense is a typical disinformation agent and sales men. His show is also on GCN like his comrade Alex Jones, so he's also affiliated to Disney's ABC network. Jeff Rense worked before for ABC, so now he's back with his old employer.

Jeff Rense and UFOs.

Jeff Rense is big in promoting the alien origins of UFOs hysteria. It is well known that the illuminati are planning to organize a staged alien invasion to unite all humans under one world goverment. Ronald Reagan talked about this. He thought this would be the best way to unite people under world goverment. Jeff Rense is clearly serving the illuminati agenda by paying so much attention to the alien origin of UFOs theory. There is no evidence at all that aliens are on this planet. You can convince me that this is real by showing me one. I wish you good luck with that. If you want to show me an alien, I can give you my address.

Jeff Rense creates irrational panic about infectious diseases.

Jeff Rense's site show cases many articles about bird flue and other harmless diseases. There are also many other reports on his site about health threats, many of which are grossly exaggerated. Why would Jeff want to scare us? The reason The goal of this continious stream of panic reports about our health is to change us into hypochonders. Once you read these panic stories about threats to our health enough times, it changes your perception. You start being scared and pondering about your health. What can you do about it? Is there a solution to cancer and bird flue and every other health threat? Yes there is and it is advertised at the same website at How convenient. As a service to his readers there are many advertisments about alternative health products, most of which have not been proven to work. Thats how Jeff Rense makes his money, first turn us into hypochonders and than provide the solution for a lot of money.
Question: How much money does Jeff make from the advertisment of these New Age health products?


Jeff Rense is one of the biggest liars in the not so alternative media, together with his comrade Alex Jones.

Peter 12-07-2007 10:31 PM

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You make a some good points here blue angel. I recently realized that they are doing the a similar thing with the world population as what they do with the children who are programmed to perform certain tasks. They try to traumatize the people. Thats why they always kill people life on TV. They could easily have killed Kennedy is secret. But no, they had to kill him life on TV with his brain splashing all over the place. This is clearly done to create a trauma in people like you say. After events like this people are much more susceptible to reprogramming. This is exactly what we see in the media nowadays. Constant focus on war and violence. Same thing as what Jeff Rense and Alex Jones are doing. In addition Alex Jones, Jeff Rense and GCN are trying to make money out of traumtizing people by selling them gold and new age fake natural products. Apperantly the owner of GCN is big in trading gold. How convenient that Alex Jones wars continiously about financial collapse and that we have to buy gold. Its just business as usual for them and all the dumb patriots go with it. Its time to wake up and see Alex and Jeff for what they really are: sharlatans who want your money.

me9G7X5t1r2M 12-08-2007 09:56 AM

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if they show something in a movie that induces someone to do something subconsciously then they are teaching that thing, without having to spell it out don’t you think?

things don’t need to be spelled out to be implied and be taught by mind control of the subconscious

you know what I’m saying,

its like the word imply has a meaning here, don’t you think?

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