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Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-19-2009, 09:17 AM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Stompk, you are going to have to come up with a better response than that if you want this two-bit ATS knockoff site to grow.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 02:15 PM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Oh. B.S.

I'm calling you out on this. B.S. pure and simple.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 02:14 PM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Do you understand what the word "supersaturation" means?

it means that the relative humidity is GREATER THAN 100%.

Do you understand that there is a significant difference between relative...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Even in the summer ice supersaturated reions form.

http://www.pa.op.dlr.de/issr/Cha3.html

granted, they are thicker in the winter, but they still exist in the summer.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 01:57 PM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

even in the summer, it gets down to -40 degrees at the altitude that most comercial jets fly. What evidence do you have regarding the altitudes of observed contrails?
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 01:44 PM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

So, are you saying that ice supersaturated regions do not exist?
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 12:28 PM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

They won't Albie. They have no use for science and logic. They have FAITH.

FAITH allows them to ignore science and logic and concentrate on their warped worldview. Oh, deep down, they know that...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 12:02 PM
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Posted By Alferd
Contrails are real, chemtrails are not

Contrails are produced from the exhaust emissions of aircraft. They have been recorded from the early days of aviation when the first aircraft reached significant altitudes. They can be formed from...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 10:44 AM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: A question for stopmk

Feel free to answer these questions also, TrutherD, since Stompk seems unable to do so.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 07:19 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Cloud formation

Wrong. Cirrus clouds form in the upper troposphere.



And what is the basis of your claim that the upper troposphere is a low-humidity environment? (hint: it's that pesky ice supersaturation isue...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-18-2009, 06:44 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
A question for stopmk

are you familiar with the concept of ice supersaturation?

Do you understand the difference between relative humidity with respect to water as opposed to relative humidity with respect to ice?
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 10:42 AM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

LOL

Ok, clearly you are either a very funny troll or you are completely unglued.

Bye now.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 10:04 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Well based on that photo from WWII, it would be a long time indeed. :p
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 10:02 AM
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Posted By Alferd
The Effects of Aircraft Wake Dynamics on Contrail Development

Abstract:



The whole paper:
AMS Online Journals - The Effects of Aircraft Wake Dynamics on Contrail Development...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:51 AM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

We are not talking about cloud seeding, we are talking about contrails.

Contrails form due to combustion exhaust.

Liquid CO2 can not form in combustion exhaust, nor can it form from human...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:49 AM
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

take a look at this picture of B-17s in WWII.


http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/atmosphere/contrails/b17-contrails.jpg

Notice how there are no contrails at all from the lower planes, short...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:44 AM
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Posted By Alferd
another paper

Apparently, many times when you think the sky is clear, there really are cirrus clouds, so thin that you can’t see them from the ground. These are called “subvisual” clouds.

Here is an abstract to...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:31 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Contrail research

Here is an interesting abstract of a research paper on contrail formation



ETA left the link out:

Growth of ice crystals in a precipitating contrail : SUCCESS, 2...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:27 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Ice supersaturation

One of the “hot” areas of atmospheric research these days is in the study of the phenomena of ice supersaturation. Ice supersaturation is when the relative humidity with respect to ice in the...
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:04 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Why?

At 30,000 feet, contrails consist of ice crystals. Clouds consist of ice crystals. the same processes that allow clouds to persist allow contrails to persist.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:02 AM
Replies: 208
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Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Don't be silly. It is not possible for liquid CO2 to form in the atmosphere.
Forum: General Conspiracy Discussion 11-17-2009, 09:00 AM
Replies: 208
Views: 12,728
Posted By Alferd
Re: Contrails cannot form into clouds (proof!)

Temperature has everything to do with it. have you ever heard of the term "dew point?"




Don't be absurd. Jet engine exhast cannot possibly form liquid CO2.
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