I just want to say that after reading over my previous exchanges in this thread, I am not proud of some of the tone and attitude conveyed, and for that I sincerely apologize, Nexseuss.
Obviously, we have a vast chasm of disagreement in regard to the true nature of the ruling elites. In that we may just have to agree to disagree.
I can only reiterate that there are some of us on ths forum who have danced with the devil, and we have firsthand experience to validate our claims.
Once again, I don't blame you for regarding this scenario as outrageous, paranoid and downright frightening. Those were my initial reactions, and nothing would make me happier than if I could convince myself that it is all some sort of mistake or charade. Unfortunately, I have followed this trail from the local racketeers and grafters in my own community all the way up to the highest echelons of national and international society. It is an internecine, interrelated and undeniable conspiracy with a common and recurring element of Satanism.
Indeed, you are correct to say that there is no future but what we make of it. Yet this evil conspiracy is part and parcel of our past, present and future. As the Bible teaches, we must learn to be in this world but not of this world. It is not possible to completely ignore the evil, just to resist submitting to it.
Regardless, this is no way to welcome a newcomer to Club Conspiracy. For that I am abundantly regretful, and I don't want you to think that you have to leave or censure yourself for any reason.
We're all big boys and girls. I like to think we can take it as well as we dish it up. :-)
A sentiment I would like to extend to you as well Freeman. I too found myself stirring in a less than productive motion for a bit, and offer my apologies for doing so to you, and even True Believer.
We do have differing opinions, but that's what we're here for... the challenge of each other's viewpoints and how they relate to ours.
I'm not much for the Bible, nor have I been Christian since a decade of latin based Catholic tradition and education which I quietly left. Still though, whether I believe the Bible is correct, incorrect, or partially correct... I do see the intentions of the Bible's interpretations, and by Christians as a motive of decency and understanding our existances on earth, so I could never fault that or anyone who believes in it.
I too have danced with Devils, spied them up close, from afar, and oddly on occasion drank and made merry with them as compatriots and lovers.
To me (solely on an opinion level), I'm of the idea that we all are devils, and all Gods, simultaneously but never equally in measure at any one time. The duality of existance so to speak, much like the ying and yang.
This ability to even recognize our bi polar natures, to me, has been catagorized in many cultures and spiritual as the fall of mankind and the beginning as we know it.
The tree of knowledge, the serpents of tribal Africa, the fruit, etc..
I guess I celebrate the idea that without goodness we can not see the bad and vice versa, and that no entity is complete on this earth, whether for good or bad.
So theories which attempt to portray a unified evil or goodness marching into the battles of our limited history on this earth.. It just doesn't sit right with my gut instincts.
There are offspring to raise, fortunes to chase, relationships to make, and parents to disagree with. heh..
And no, I don't have any hard backed thesis nor personal scriptures to substantiate my gut instincts. lol