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Old 09-17-2005, 08:05 PM
Saturnino Saturnino is offline
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Default Re: Who will be the first to confront the menace of America?


There is no free will regarding morality. Man is born depraved, according to the Bible, my own mirror and my life experience. No choice here.

Christianity teaches that people are unable to be good by their own efforts. I see selfshiness and egocentrism in my 2 year old niece !

What happens is that socialization puts a restrainer on people's behavior. Fear to go to jail, to be ostracized. This is not the same as godliness that comes from the heart.

Of course, even after receiving Christ the Christian still sins (sometimes a lot). But he has a chance to sin less, as long as he asks for God to help him live the life God wants us to live. Freedom from sin only after you die.

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