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Old 01-07-2005, 10:08 AM
Ahmad Ahmad is offline
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Default Re: Liberals vs Conservatives on this forum.

Your points are very misleading, like the "liberals" you equate the right with the wrong, when nothing is wrong in itself, it's how the people use it that counts.

For example, Satan uses fear to control his followers, his "fear strategy" is unjustified and based on lies and illusions. God warns us repeatedly in all the scriptures of his retribution for the guilty, would you consider that too " a fear strategy" or requirements of the deal we made with God?

Only the meanings behind the words can detect deception, manipulation or other satanic methods. But since you have missed the meaning, there is no way you can percieve the truthfulness of the intention.

You said: "The number of righteous martyrs througout history makes me dubious of the notion that God puts a magic shield around all of us who submit to him completely;"

And who said that the righteous die in the first place? God revealed to us in Quran, that the righteous go straight to Heaven, which means that their death is a great blessing if you only know. Jesus's life in Heaven is definetly better than the persecution of the Jews.

You said: "Idolatry is a major form of sin, no question, but the worst form of idolatry is unreasoning commitment to dogma,"

Again you equate the right with wrong, your judgment is impaired, not all religion is evil, not all dogmas are evil. There is the truth and there are the lies.

You said: "Actually I don't; I consider Christ and the Holy Spirit of the Trinity as conduits to God Himself"

Do you think you need mediators to contact God? well, that is exactly what Satan wants to convince us, that we need someone more pure than us to contact God (why are you afraid of contacting God directly?) isn't this how the Church and Mosque dictatorship is based on?
Don't be like those whose lame excuse was:

[39:3] Absolutely, the religion shall be devoted to GOD alone. Those who set up idols beside Him say, "We idolize them only to bring us closer to GOD; for they are in a better position!" GOD will judge them regarding their disputes. GOD does not guide such liars, disbelievers.

You said: "Yet your religion encompasses numerology, long considered a form of idolatry (and occultism) within conventional Judeao-Christian theology."

I thought you were smarter, you bought the Satanic deception of labeling things to shortcircuit you!
So religion is evil, numerology is satanic, ..etc

The proof of Quran was long known to the Jewish sincere rabbis, but this knowledge got distorted:

From appenidx 1 to the "Authorized english translation of Quran" by Rashad Khalifa:

A Witness From the Children of Israel

[46:10] Proclaim: "What if it is from God, and you disbelieved in it? A witness from the Children of Israel has borne witness to a similar phenomenon, and he has believed, while you have turned too arrogant to believe. God does not guide the wicked."

The following quotation is taken from STUDIES IN JEWISH MYSTICIM, (Association for Jewish Studies, Cambridge, Mass., Joseph Dan & Frank Talmage, eds., Page 88, 1982). The quotation refers to the work of Rabbi Judah the Pious (12th Century AD):

The people [Jews] in France made it a custom to add [in the morning prayer] the words: "`Ashrei temimei derekh [blessed are those who walk the righteous way]," and our Rabbi, the Pious, of blessed memory, wrote that they were completely and utterly wrong. It is all gross falsehood, because there are only nineteen times that the Holy Name is mentioned [in that portion of the morning prayer]... and similarly you find the word `Elohim nineteen times in the pericope of Ve-'elleh shemot.... Similarly, you find that Israel were called "sons" nineteen times, and there are many other examples. All these sets of nineteen are intricately intertwined, and they contain many secrets and esoteric meanings, which are contained in more than eight large volumes... Furthermore, in this section there are 152 (19x8) words.

The numerology of the cabbalists is but a distortion of God's original knowledge that was long known by the Jewish scholars, however by time in parallel to the distortions of the scriptures, this divine knowledge got corrupted by Satan. Do you think Satan will leave the signs of God without distortion?. These Kabbala people idolized numbers, and saw powers eminating from them indepent of God, they are totally stuck in their devination and seeking power through numbers, also the occult do so, and attach nonsensical meanings to the numbers.
However the numbers on my website are SIGNS from God, how to know they are from God? if they are CLEAR, and have a righteous MEANING that conforms with the scripture, why would you reject them? how could you disregard a sign from God without having knowledge about it? have you verified the signs first?

[34:43] When our proofs were recited to them, perfectly clear, they said, "This is simply a man who wants to divert you from the way your parents are worshiping." They also said, "These are fabricated lies." Those who disbelieved also said about the truth that came to them, "This is obviously magic."

Yes i am a converter, Jesus was also a converter. I am a messenger of God, and you are required to follow me, i bring you a message and clear proofs from your Lord, if you turn away, then bear witness that i am a submitter to God alone.

Ahmad Nishitoba
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[3:19] The only religion approved by GOD is \"Submission.\"...
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