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Old 11-29-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Italian Fascism instigated by Socialist Marxists

And This, thank you for your question.

I am leaving this site and a couple of others today since cast is coming off. I have been frequenting quite a few. Some more shocking than others. This one is rather a moderate one, internet-wise, but not overly scholarly. By that I probably mean it in another way than do you.

My greatest problem with Christian Fundamentalism is the way it has decieved and befuddled man over the centuries. Just like any other mass-beliefs, great evils have been commited in its name. But somehow it has persisted. Why? Because of the duality inside the teaching, the benevolent preaching of the priests together with the threat of eternal and harsh punishment of the soul. The condemning nature of Jesus and God is laid bare in the bible at many many places and yet clergy tells us they are all good and holy, these words.

Even Truebeliever asks of me to put a single event aside since the whole picture is of a benign man.

Not so! I say.

Truebeliever asks me to view the larger picture of the bible instead of focusing on a few mean and harsh utterances by that man of the most holy. Does Truebeliever really mean that these texts was left in the bible by mistake? Or does Truebeliever mean that we must interpret the bible to ignore the "bad" parts? Just like we do with our Christian leaders? Just like we do with our priests? Or am I just sensitive and should accept that the world is tough and harsh an we better arm ourself and be prepared 'cause Jesus said so?

I say, the story of Jesus being fickle and judgemental and suddenly turning holy and good depending on his mood, tells us a very definitive story about what kind of person we should accept and model ourself into. And it is not a good person.

Therefore; while we read that Jesus was sometimes a choleric and egoistic man, tastelessly uncaring and selfish on occasions, and our priests tell us that he was of the utmost goodness, then we are being programmed in the most exquisite way, allowing our leaders to trample upon us with their professed belief in God and at the same time commiting the most heinous crimes.

Witness the White Man's Burden, where the western world colonized the rest of the world in search of new market ventures but under the thin veil of Benevolent Christianity, knitted by the goodly priests and the men of soulless commerce.

Witness the US campaign for Oil in the middle-east, led by a president confessing as a Born-Again Christian.

Why did so few leaders of the western world react to his attack? Because he claimed that he had the "right" to do it. God was with him. And many leaders of european parties are likewise "led by the right of god". This we have been taught by the bible; "If you are not with me, you are against me". And since GW Bush is a forefigure for Christians of the world, such is the power of that religion, taught by the bible.

How can the Catholic church continue for so long to let so many altarboys be cruelly molested by pedophilic clergymen? How come the christian belivers continue to believe when their highest representatives commit the most detructive crime against a human being?

Many Christians today do not really believe in a male God and a real Jesus with holy powers, yet they are lured into the church because the message is of goodness and togetherness. The teachings are benign, people are led to believe, and the opening of the heart to the soul of mankind is good. Many believe that there is a unifying spirit that is God. Therefore one must open ones mind, according to the preachings and teachings, to this unnameable spirit that can only be felt, never explained.

What you don't realize, when you open up like that is that one actually is closing off from other human beings. You are opening up towards your inside, not outside. And inside is just more of yourself.

You effectively let yourself become slightly more malleable the deeper you sink into religous belief. And the more you sink into it, the more you are shut off from other human beings.

The connection to cold capitalism is this;
it is the most effective marketing-tool in the whole history of mankind. It is this that the capitalist market is using as model for their business-strategy.

(Let me make one thing clear; Capitalism within an old-fashioned liberal and strictly regulated market is the best we can do. It is not ideal but far better than gung-ho wild-west early IMF- led gutting of a country like happened with Argentina. Utopian capitalism must start from equal positions between the combatting opponents. This cannot happen in the real world were one comapny is always before, larger or better equipped, therefore legislation).

Christianity is the poor man's religion, created to control the powerful from it's most humble beginnings. The only way for poor people to get back at ther cruel masters.

By touching first the poor, then the servants, then the wives of the rich and mighty and through them their children, until all were christian. Christianity seeped in and took power by forcing the mighty to develop a conscience towards the poor. This was their way of attaining a very expandable foothold on power.

And this is the way all big business works. It speaks about freedom, allowing you to fulfil your dream, allowing you to be seen, making your unimportant life actually mean something, but in reality it grips you by the balls and never lets go.

Just like when you buy a new car and feel that you have achieved something in life, certainly now when you have that new Porsche Cayenne you have reached a meaningful place in life... but then... suddenly it's too old, someone gets a better one than you... you need a faster, safer, cleaner, bigger car. This insecurity what is actually meant by these wise and intelligent businessmen who create all theses fantastic new clothes, watches, cars and hotels, TV-channels, Films... They are so wise and brilliant, why don't they decide once and for all what is best and let me be free to make my own mind up? No, you can't! Because the capitalist powers need you to be busy working for them so that you don't think too much on your own. And what BLISS when finally there is a company that just tells you exactly what you want, gives you everything you need, when there is no more need to search or think for yourself!!

Enter Wal-Mart, GM, IKEA, Cable-TV, Microsoft, Coca-Cola or Christianity, same tactics, same system of mind. Like the Borg (I watch with my kids, love Star Trek) they assimilate all in their way. Not because it is best but because it is the biggest and the angriest. As in business, quality looses over speed and price.

...the same attitude is portrayed by christianity, and stronger than any other religion it tells you of goodness, peace and love. Surely! And all the priests that preach the love of god. But then what does all this mean...


Some wisdoms from the bible:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesnít receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who donít believe in him. Jude 5
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