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Old 01-18-2005, 03:49 PM
Draken Draken is offline
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Default Marriage licenses

Going through threads and topics I haven't had time for before and just generally browsing what's out there, I read this far too late!

Pete wrote:
A license is a permission to do that which you otherwise could not legally do. Don't people (as in a man and a woman) have a right to marry? The state enters in as a fraudulent third party for the purpose of gaining a jurisdiction over the children from a licensed marriage ... the whole point of licensure seems to have been forgotten by the Christian church. / The corporation churches refuse to marry people without a state license. Why is it needed? It is NOT needed. People marry in a church in front of witnesses, guest books are signed, the whole thing is videotaped and photographed, etc. Isn't that enough evidence to validate that a marriage took place? In fact, if you ask your local Dept. of Motor Vehicles regarding name change on a driver's license, they WILL accept a church issued certificate of marriage signed by witnesses and the preacher. Once a new driver's license is issued, the socialist slavestate number administration will be happy to use that as evidence of name change to issue a new socialist slavestate ID card. With the new ssn card issued, the IRS has no problem with "married filing jointly" status. So, even the whole bogus system doesn't require the marriage license.

... simply boycotting the licensure of marriage would bring the govt. to heel far quicker than any amount of bickering over should they or shouldn't they issue a license to gays.

Pete, this is the kind of constructive social disobedience I like!
We NEED to do this kind of thing to bring the current status quo down. It may not look like much but I think if you spread the word more people than you think would agree.

I'm sitting here in overtly Socialist, covertly Communist Sweden and I wonder what the laws here say about marriage...

I'll have to look into it - for "future reference"... ;-)

Great points, Pete!
Three things are sacred to me: first Truth, and then, in its tracks, primordial prayer; Then virtue–nobility of soul which, in God walks on the path of beauty. Frithjof Schuon
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