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Old 03-30-2006, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Bible Study - Let us ponder together

I shall quote myself:

So the "NIV" replaced "Lucifer" with "morning star"... and it is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR who this "morning star" truly is... Christ!
In saying this, (I could have been more clear) I was merely trying to point out the deception in the NIV... but with the hope that this was not done as a "deliberate" act, I went on to say:

An odd transliteration... I believe this was simply intended to convey the true motivation of "Satan" himself - to be Christ. Sarcasm in biblical proportions if you will. One should perhaps use caution when associating the name "Lucifer" with "Satan".
I say this because of an ongoing scholars debate on this as a reference to the King of Babylon.

The distinction is rather clear. There should be little confusion. Having said that, I am not recommending that anyone refers to "Jesus" with the name "Lucifer".
So, yes... I could have been a little less vague though responsibility comes with discussing these topics doesen't it? I would hate to mistakingly mislead someone. Way I see it, anyone who doesen't check these things out for themselves is doomed in so many aspects in life. This is true of your churches and priests as well... and if they themselves don't invite and welcome you to validate their teachings then in my opinion, they are acting irresponsibly.

Lucifer is a Latin word made up of two words, lux (light; genitive lucis) and ferre (to bear, to bring), meaning light-bearer. Lucifer appears in Greek mythology as heosphoros, the "Dawn-bringer"; it is used by poets to represent the Morning Star at moments when "Venus" would introduce distracting imagery of the goddess. "Lucifer" does not appear in most modern translations of the Christian Bible. "Lucifer" is Jerome's direct translation in his Vulgate (4th century) of the Septuagint's Greek translation, as heosphoros, "morning star" or "Day Star," literally "bringer of the Dawn", of a phrase in Isaiah 14:12, where it is used to refer to the Babylonian king by one of his popular honorific titles. From the viewpoint of the 5th century Christian tradition, Lucifer is seen as having been second in command to God himself; he was the highest archangel in heaven, but he was motivated by pride and greed to rebel against God and was cast out of heaven, followed by a third of the host of heaven. In later Christian tradition and folklore, Lucifer was identified explicitly with Satan. Such beliefs are thought by some to be contrary to Jesus' teachings, and to exalt Satan and Lucifer to positions and powers not supported in the Bible (see below). Modern concepts of Lucifer and Satan come from embelishments in fictional works like Dante's The Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, rather than Biblical sources.

-taken from wikipedia

I agree sticking with the KJV is indeed the best way to avoid this alltogether! Confusing indeed... but actually not if you read all versions in proper context. The truth speaks for itself.

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