[Rockyroad]

I'd prefer references more credable than another message board. Give me a little time and I've some material on them. Very creepy groups and in the last century some detractors disappeared never to be seen again. I've got the information including the links to the Jesuits (which suprised the heck out of me) but rather than scan it I'll develope the links to get you to the source. There's too much rumour going around nowdays to just take someones' word for it.