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Old 09-12-2006, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: Dissapearing Post - "Whatever Happened To The Orbital Engine"

truebeliever wrote:

This 1.8 litre motor put out around 80kw of power and could take you over 1000km's on a 70 litre tank of fuel...travelling at 110-130km/h.

Fuel savings were around %30-%50 depending on driving conditions.

People must understand...this was NO pie in the sky. It was a happening product underwritten by Ford.

In the end Sarich gave up trying to make the engine locally and sold his engine and patents to Ford outright for 190 million dollars. Sarich now SPECULATES on property and suggests no one bother to get an invention going. Just design and patent it and then sell it to the big boys. He was absoloutly sold out by everbody and was bitter as hell for a long time.

After all is said and done we heard that the motor would be in outboard motors, motorbikes and fuel efficient cars...we heard about this constantly for five years back in the early 90's and then...NOTHING.

Ford have the engine and the patents locked up in their U.K subsidery.
What will be interesting is what happens to this motor today. In the late 80s and early 90s with gas prices low (even in the late 90s, I was buying gas for $0.75 per gallon in the Washington, D.C. area), there was simply no market for a 60 horsepower moter that could go 59 mph. The market wanted big motors and big cars, not fuel efficient ones.

The motor may have been seen as a threat to Ford, but I doubt it. At that time, there was not a market for it.

Where the rubber will meet the road is if Ford or someone doesn't bring out something like that now. If your numbers are true, it is much better than a hybrid and likely to be much less expensive. Ford or anyone would have an incentive now to bring it out. It could be the company's salvation.

Several years ago, I worked for a company that had been a large conglomerate involved in oil and gas, mining, etc. The company had reconstituted itself as a pure play in E&P but had a legacy in R&D in all sectors. My job was literally to troll the warehouse and look for commercial applications for anything in the shelves.

There was literally a ton of good ideas. The reasons they were on the shelf were myriad, but none that I could find were particularly diabolical. Sure some of them were there because they could have cannibalized an existing business, but that was more management or bureaucratic politics than anything sinister. Most were not economical at the time, including one that we were able to spin into a JV with a battery player who had a complimentary technology and now the JV is the leader in large battery systems, including for hybrids.

I am not saying that there are not inventions that have been shelved because they could kill a powerful business interest. I believe there are. I just think the jury is out on the one you mention. For now.
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