(Peace be unto you)
landownunder: "If you want to preach a certain idea please start another topic and heading so people are not mislead."
Marcos was the one who started the Jesus' talk, and it is my duty to respond accordingly,
Santurino said: "I know you don`t accept the forgiveness thru the sacrifice of Jesus for our sins. Therefore, I have a question : how do you ever know how much work or obedience or prayers, or knowledge (this goes to the gnostics too) is ENOUGH to get you to heaven ?"
landownunder: "Also about the tsunami and the lesson,if this was a sign for christianity why were the majority who suffered in that event muslims?"
The majority were muslims indeed, Indonesia the worst hit country is the largest muslim country in the world. I say in my article (Another Noah's flood, why in Christams?
) that it was a punishment for the muslims because of their following the unauthorized Hadith books instead of Quran.
landownunder: "Natural disasters have been happening for centuries in many places.Natural disasters are not prejudice, they dont ask people for relgion or racial identity."
Well, they have been happening for centuries, but only a few took them seriously and heeded the message. There are no coincidences whatsoever in this world, there is only blind people.
landownunder: "the 19 issue is deffinately a topic which doesnt interest me."
The 19 issue can cost you eternity! God describes the guilty that they will run away from his reminder (19) like zebras fleeing from a lion. How could you dismiss a subject without acquiring knowledge about it first!
A Warning to the Human race
God clarified to us its function in chapter 74 of Quran titled (The Hidden Secret) translated by Rashad Khalifa:
[74:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[74:1] O you hidden secret.
[74:2] Come out and warn.
[74:3] Extol your Lord.
[74:4] Purify your garment.
[74:5] Forsake what is wrong.
[74:6] Be content with your lot.
[74:7] Steadfastly commemorate your Lord.
*74:1 God's infinite wisdom willed to reveal the Quran through Muhammad, while the Quran's awesome 19-based mathematical miracle was revealed through God's Messenger of the Covenant 1406 lunar years after revelation of the Quran (1406=19x74 & 1974 AD was the Solar Year of discovery). In retrospect, we realize that the whole sura refers to the Quran's 19-based miracle (Appendix 1 & 2 ).
*74:4 Quran is the garment containing the secret code. This refers to removing 9:128-129. Rashad khalifa
[74:8] Then, when the horn is blown.
[74:9] That will be a difficult day.
[74:10] For the disbelievers, not easy.
[74:11] Let Me deal with one I created as an individual.
[74:12] I provided him with lots of money.
[74:13] And children to behold.
[74:14] I made everything easy for him.
[74:15] Yet, he is greedy for more.
[74:16] He stubbornly refused to accept these proofs.
[74:17] I will increasingly punish him.
[74:18] For he reflected, then decided.
[74:19] Miserable is what he decided.
[74:20] Miserable indeed is what he decided.
[74:21] He looked.
[74:22] He frowned and whined.
[74:23] Then he turned away arrogantly.
[74:24] He said, "This is but clever magic!
[74:25] "This is human made."
[74:26] I will commit him to retribution.
[74:27] What retribution!
[74:28] Thorough and comprehensive.
[74:29] Obvious to all the people.
The Quran's Common Denominator
[74:30] Over it is nineteen.
[74:31] We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.
[74:32] Absolutely, (I swear) by the moon.
[74:33] And the night as it passes.
[74:34] And the morning as it shines.
One of the Great Miracles
[74:35] This is one of the great miracles.
[74:36] A warning to the human race.
[74:37] For those among you who wish to advance, or regress.
[74:38] Every soul is trapped by its sins.
[74:39] Except for those on the right.
[74:40] While in Paradise, they will ask.
[74:41] About the guilty.
[74:42] "What brought you to this retribution?"
[74:43] They will say, "We did not observe the contact prayers (Salat).
[74:44] "We did not feed the poor.
[74:45] "We blundered with the blunderers.
[74:46] "We disbelieved in the Day of Judgment.
[74:47] "Until certainty came to us now." *74:30-35 This ``One of the great miracles'' provides the first physical evidence that the Quran is God's message to the world. This 19-based miracle is detailed in Appendix 1.
[74:48] The intercession of the intercessors will never help them.
[74:49] Why are they so averse to this reminder?
[74:50] Running like zebras.
[74:51] Who are fleeing from the lion!
[74:52] Does each one of them want to receive the scripture personally?
[74:53] Indeed, they do not fear the Hereafter.
[74:54] Indeed, this is a reminder.
[74:55] For those who wish to take heed.
[74:56] They cannot take heed against GOD's will. He is the source of righteousness; He is the source of forgiveness.