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Old 03-27-2005, 12:30 AM
Ahmad Ahmad is offline
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Default Re: Churchgoers are idolators!

Peace Marcos,

It happens for most of us that we grow and inherit our parents' beliefs, i for one followed my father's religion blindly, i remember that he took me oneday to visit a shrine of a dead saint, it was a mosque with a small room inside where the saint is buried, then he took my hand and started circling the tomb and said that by praying here all my wishes will be granted!

That seemed strange to me at the time, why would praying at the tomb of a dead man be any different from praying at home! praise be to God, now i understand the magnitude of deception.

I ask you to start questioning your beliefs before it's too late. Just listen to yourself my friend,

Santurino: "Jesus never rejected adoration as God. God the Father Himself told people to obey Jesus and qualified Him as His Son (in His baptism and in the transfiguration)."


So in the same breath, you say that Jesus IS God (the father) and then you say that the father (Jesus) told people to obey the son (also Jesus) ?

Does this idea conform with a simple man's logic? do you think God will create us with such a brain to confuse it?

So according to your inherited belief there are two probabilities:

1- Jesus is God, the father.
2- Jesus is the son of God, the father.


In the first case, Jesus cannot be a son, he would be a god who descended to demonstrate something to his creation. In the second case, he would be a son of that god, thus lower in rank.

Now your inherited belief again contradict these two positions, if Jesus was God, how on earth would that Omnipotent God submit to His own self imposed rules and sacrifice Himself! and to whom?

And if we assume that Jesus was the son, then he can not be God (the father) in the same time.

So it's either that Jesus is God or a part of God, which position do you take?

And don't tell me they are three in one, but still one, because 3 = not 1.

[5:116] GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.
[5:117] "I told them only what You commanded me to say, that: `You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.' I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with them. When You terminated my life on earth, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things.
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