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Old 11-02-2009, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Real Atlantis Story Suppressed?

Originally Posted by EireEngineer View Post
You my friend are a nitwit. Yes I know what the word contrary means, lol. And no, there is no arbitrary function of capitalism that prevents the construction of unbreakable computers or buildings, if that is what the people actually demanded.
If that's what you really believe, you're a fool. Capitalism inevitably leads to a decline of quality in favor of higher profit margins. I see it happening all around me in all economic sectors (from the concrete industry to the IT sector). Making unbreakable computers or buildings would be the exact oposite of the capitalist way.

Originally Posted by EireEngineer View Post
You have a pretty low view of people. I guess you think that all people are just mindless little lemmings willing to do whatever the Mad Men say.
Most people, regardless of race of social status, are easily manipulated by the capitalist oligarchy. They will believe ANYTHING as long as it comes from a source they consider credible. To some that source is their local priest or iman, to others that source is "Popular Science", Karl Marx, Noam Chomsky, Alex Jones, ... How else do you think childish religions like Christianity or Islam could have survived the digital age? Why else do you think most American citizens still vote Republican or Democrat?

The rise of the Internet has decreased the hold of the oligarchy on the masses (as underground dissident opinions can not reach a larger public), though, but not to a degree that it makes a difference.

Originally Posted by EireEngineer View Post
If we were to adapt a Soviet style economy, there would be no choice, no competition, and definately no innovation.
I'm not supporting a Soviet style economy either. Why must you think so black-and-white? Do you really believe there's only the choice between capitalism and communism?

So what types of economic system do I support? My preference goes to Syndicalism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Natinoal-Anarchism, National-Socialism, Solidarism and similar systems.

Originally Posted by EireEngineer View Post
Good luck, and when you get a chance try reading some Adam Smith and Milton Friedman to balance out your reading list.
I'm aware of Milton Friedman's theories and consider them utterly naive. The end result of the kind of laissez-faire capitalism he proposes will mean the speedy return of Dickensian society : a tiny well-educated upper class exploiting a huge under-educated underclass and the eradication of the middle-class. Although I'm pretty sure we're currently heading that same direction, laissez-faire capitalism will only get us there faster. After all, what's to stop the industrialist from exploiting his fellow man or developing a monopoly without laws making this illegal? Are we supposed to rely on his morality when today we already see industrial moguls behaving as immoral as legally possible to get profit margins as high as possible?!?
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