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Old 05-11-2005, 10:36 PM
nakedsnake nakedsnake is offline
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Default Re: Snake to Draken, come in Draken...

Draken,
You state Ahmad has valid points but Ahmad is claiming the exclusivity of the Quran that you claim no one has.
You are being double minded.
The nature and knowabilty of truth is crucial to the Christian faith. Christianity claims to posses the objective truth about God and about the way to God through Jesus Christ the Son of God. If truth is not objective, real and knowable, then the Christian faith is not only false but fraudulent.
Christians hold that God made himself known and knowable through the historical figure of Jesus of Nazareth.
This same Jesus claimed to be "The Truth". To see and know him is to see and know the truth, for he perfectly corresponds with truth. So the unequivocal claims of Christianity imply a certain theory of truth, namely a correspondence view of truth.

Truth can be understood both negatively and positively, that is, from what is and from what it is not.

So what did Jesus believe about himself? how did others perceive him? who was this solitary figure? Who is Jesus of Nazareth? Jesus thought it was fundamentally important what others believed about him. It was not a subject that allowed for neutrality or a less than honest appraisal of the evidence. C.S Lewis wrote (and it addressees your view perfectly);

"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about him: "I'm ready to accept him as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept his claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say.
A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg-or else he would be the Devil of Hell.
you must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, The Son of god; or else he a mad man or something worse.
You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher.
He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."
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