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Old 07-25-2007, 07:02 AM
konig19 konig19 is offline
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BlueAngel,I posted here only to try and help you understand things better.
You can keep on saying you dont need my advice as much as you want, I dont care,and I dont care if you believe me or not.
But I just wanted you to know some of the things Im saying ,than you can make up your own mind about it all,there are others who read this thread as well.
Dont believe me.
Thats all good.
It dont bother me.

You dont believe that devils exist,right,OK.
I have no problem with that,In fact I can understand..
But what I cant understand is you using the word devil,satan,satanic cult,satan worshipers,,on and on.
You even go on to say this quote;
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist."
Why?Whats the point in saying that?
When you clearly dont believe that they do exist.

The words:devil,satan,satanic,all refer to the invisible evil creatures we call by those names and nothing else.
So by using those words in your speech all the time you acknowledge that they do exist.
If I was you I wouldnt use those word than.

I am not into any sect or cult,I reject the devils.
I only Worship God, my Lord,my Creator, Lord of the Universe.
The deal with me and the devils is that I believe,I know that they exist,just like God says that they exist,and warns us about them.
I have nothing to do with Springsteen,gah...
You can be sure Angel Im got nothing to do with people like that,God Forbid.
I dont expect you to take my advice,yes Im anonymous just like you are,and being anonymous has nothing to do what somebody says.It is not the way to judge what somebody is saying.
I dont know if you believe in God or not BlueAngel,I got the impression that you do,yet in some of your responses to me you clearly dont sound like it.
Im not falling into satans hands,if you think I am please let me know why that is, so can take the right actions.
That Ron Patton's article describes how demons are attached to corresponding alters,right.You said you read it but you dont accept it as true.
I do notice that the downplays the demons,as being nothing but a scare tactic,but thats not true.
He is just tricking himself into believing demons dont exist like most people do,even though he described demons as being used in the process.

There wont be justice in this world until people believe,and worship God alone.
Even the Protocols state this fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet those who wrote and follow the Protocols are clearly no believers.
But it is important for them to do everything possible to mislead people away from God.
People need to wake up.

You are right those in satanic cults do believe in devils,but they think they are some kind of advanced creatures who can benefit them,if they serve them.
They think that are the special few who know the unseen,they think they are better than most,and see no problem in doing all the evils things they practice.

When I said what use its knowledge when its all just lies.
You can take that more as a quote than something being said to you directly.
Im not anybody who is trying to protect Springsteen,by calling you a lier.
I dont know if it really is true what you are saying or not,I dont have any evidence to make any conclusions.
But I do trust you that most of the song lyrics are really bad,like you have shown.
And I wouldnt be to surprised if most of what you are saying that has happened to you was true.

I believe in God,I trust God,and I follow God's Guidance,and I thank God for guiding me.
God has explained all the things to us that are important for us to attain salvation.
God is the Truth,God Words are the Truth,and God's Guidance is the best guidance.
When we reject God,turn our backs to God,we reject the truth.
Therefore we can not understand many things in our life,but end up following lies,and opinions.
God says:There is only one Truth,everything else is conjecture and guesswork.Conjecture is no substitute for the truth.
God warns us about the devils,saying:The devils are your most ardent enemy so treat them as such.
Devils are part of Christianity,Judaism,and Islam.
In fact all those religions are one,is just that all have been corrupt.
The Bible,the Torah,and the Quran are all God Scriptures.
We can find truth in all God's Scriptures but need to be aware that people have made up lies(in some scriptures) and attributed them to God.
The Quran being the last,and only Scripture God has promised to protect from any corruption.
It is Guidance for all Mankind,but sadly most people dont follow it,most Muslims dont follow it.
Satan has tricked most Muslims into following man made books,like the so called Sunna instead of the Quran,thus people end up as disbelievers ,confused.
Its satan system to mislead mankind astray,and away from God.
The devil is a Master Hypnotist.

Here I will post some verses from the Quran:
In the Name of God,Most Gracious,Most Merciful
He (Satan) said, "My Lord, since You have willed that I go astray, I will surely entice them on earth; I will send them all astray. Except those among Your worshipers who are devoted absolutely to You alone."
He (God) said, "This is a law that is inviolable: you have no power over my servants; you only have power over the strayers who follow you." [15:39-42]

He (God) guides some people while others are committed to straying. They have chosen the devils as their masters, instead of God, YET THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GUIDED. [7:30]

...He (Satan) and his tribe can see you, while YOU DO NOT SEE THEM. We appoint the devils as companions of those who do not believe. [7:27]
(Satan said,) "I will come to them from before them, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left, and You will find most of them un-appreciative." [7:17]
"You may entice them with your voice, and mobilize all your forces and all your men against them, and share in their money and children, and promise them. Anything the devil promises is no more than an illusion. As for My servants, you have no power over them." Your Lord suffices as an advocate. [17:64-65]
And the devil will say, after the judgment had been issued, "God has promised you the truthful promise, and I promised you, but I broke my promise. I had no power over you; I simply invited you, and you accepted my invitation. Therefore, do not blame me, and blame only yourselves. My complaining cannot help you, nor can your complaining help me. I have disbelieved in your idolizing me. The transgressors have incurred a painful retribution." [14:22]

How Satan hypnotizes humanity?
By Dr. Douglas Brown
Hypnosis is a trance-like condition characterized by an altered state of consciousness, diminished will power, and an increased responsiveness to suggestion. People differ in their suggestibility to hypnosis. A person cannot be hypnotized against his will; he must obey the suggestions of a hypnotist. Hypnosis has been employed to help people with physical and psychological diseases, as well as for harmful purposes. An effective hypnotist is skilled in gaining the confidence of his clients. He knows that 'it takes two', the client and himself, to produce the desired effects. Our concern here is with the Master Hypnotist who misleads humanity en masse. The Master Hypnotist also gains the trust of his subjects. But, unlike human hypnotists, he is invisible.
Satan meets and even exceeds the qualifications of a hypnotist because he knows when and how to make his suggestions, according to a person's mind, character, desires and habits. He has considerable knowledge of human nature, and he has thoroughly succeeded in rendering millions of humans unable to use their minds.
People who are unappreciative of God are hypnotized by Satan without their knowledge. Countless millions of people say, "I believe in God," when in fact their hearts do not mean it. Their utterance is no more than lip service to go along with parents, friends, or the society at large. Whenever they have opportunities to break away from deception and doubt, they cling to fabricated falsehoods. This leaves them susceptible to Satan's hypnosis. For the Master Hypnotist is given access to the person's true intentions and innermost beliefs, not outward appearances and lip-service utterances. By going against their God-given instinct to worship God alone and uphold His word alone, people enable the Master Hypnotist to set them up for self-destruction behind an invisible barrier.
Satan gradually instills his suggestions into the minds of his subjects; ideas counter to the worship God alone. Satan hypnotizes his subjects into doing anything that reflects disbelief, idol-worship, or hypocrisy.
They are like the devil: he says to the human being, "Disbelieve," then as soon as he disbelieves, he says, "I disown you. I fear God, Lord of the universe." [59:16]
A trained hypnotist slowly infuses his directives into the subject's mind because this "drop by drop" approach helps the subject understand the instructions. But, in Satan's case, it is a matter of making a person feel at home with negative prompts. God protects His sincere servants from the Master Hypnotist's obvious and subtle attempts to hypnotize them.
Im sorry for making this long,and for copying part of an article from a website,you can find the short article here, also the verses I posted above are from this site.
The devils play a big part the way we sometime think,the way we behave and act,they can even take control of people,and we call that possession.
When we know and understand these things we can understand the world better.

If there is a question I didnt answer you ,let me know.
I didnt quote any of your responses but hopefully you can find an answer to your questions above.
Not expecting you to to believe me and Im not forcing my beliefs upon you or anyone.
All Im doing is pointing out to you that those invisible creatures we call devils do exist and are a big part of mind control,even Ron Patton states this fact only to downplay it right after.
But oh well,nothing surprising there.

I wont post here no more unless I have to,this post is just to clarify things,like what I believe and so on.As well to answer some of your accusations

Peace BlueAngel.

Say, "My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the whispers of the devils. And I seek refuge in You, my Lord, lest they come near me." [23:97-98]
Praise be To God,Lord of the Universe!
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