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Old 12-01-2004, 07:20 AM
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No country, no nation, (no family, no God)

Socialized pension, socialized child-rearing (if you may call it that), socialized health (disease, really) care, socialist programs of every kind, ovegrown busy-body bureaucracy regulating every aspects and moments of everyone's life, 50% taxation, no freedom, no independence, no self-sufficiency.

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Health-care, which only cares about your disease, spend $400,000 (of someone else's money) on a dying man; but cares nothing about clean drinking water, in fact, promotes putting rat-poison in it, never says anything about artificial colours, artificial flavours, hormones, and all other un-natural additives in our food. [Last Sunday in Toronto there was a demonstration in front of the hospitals (there are a bunch of them together) and the parliament building (which is next to them) demanding more money. Not one sign demanded less additives or lower population density in this city. Obviously the aim is the maintenance of a (and many) problem, not its solution.]

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Old 12-01-2004, 08:22 PM
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Right on .. 789.. That's the problem.. spending 400K of public money to keep some dead dog alive.. Why don't we want to accept death as a natural part of the human life cycle.. Instead.. The state forces taxpayers to pay "doctors" to keep fossiles alive.. and I am 60 years old... Let us die of old age and in dignity without forcing our children or the taxpayers to keep us as vegetables in a acoma ward, and keep us alive with artificial hearts and lungs.. Hell.. Just let us die in peace with our loved ones around us.
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Old 12-02-2004, 02:28 AM
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I'm thinking that Trilateralism (as per Orwell's 1984, and more recently, David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission), is (perhaps) the "End Goal" of the NWO:

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Old 12-08-2004, 05:25 PM
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Socialized pension, socialized child-rearing (if you may call it that), socialized health (disease, really) care, socialist programs of every kind, ovegrown busy-body bureaucracy regulating every aspects and moments of everyone's life, 50% taxation, no freedom, no independence, no self-sufficiency.
And just what is wrong with these socialist programs as you call them?.
Their weaker members of society that need those kind of services to survive because they are either to old to work incapitated or redundant due to skills or eduation shortage.
Your Response seems callous and selfish.
In my view these kind of individualistic views only play into the hands of the illuminati not the the other way round.

If you wish to make this some kind of left right ideological debate then i would point out that Hitler was nothing but Illuminati stooge as much as Stalin or anyone else in on the Left in world history!.GWB is nothing but an economic libertarian to a degree and look how much he plays into the NWO agenda!.

Further why is that you feel you are self sufficient!.
No one is self sufficent so dont delude yourself, self employed business people are interacting with the NWO more than others.
After all what is the NWO but an Economic system it is cetainly not a common society for anyone (except for media and corporate monopoly) as such because we all live pluralist individualist lives to some extent!.
Its cultural values may seem liberal to left wing I agree however, the Economic libertarians and Free traders of this world have no problem with those values either, do they?

Your Self interest reminds me of some kind of Economic libertarian but your views will only lead you right to the heart of the NWO!.

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Old 12-08-2004, 08:00 PM
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>>And just what is wrong with these socialist programs as you call them?.

They are theft. The cancer is not some special kind of cell. It is just one that adopted the life-style of the parasite. It received the wrong information. In stead of learning to be productive, to provide for itself, etc., it learned that all it has to do is eat and grow, eat and grow, (even invented the philosophy of entitlement to the products of other people's work) untill it kills the normal cells around it, and the body dies.
The parasite always kills the host !

If you are a socialist, what is your objection to the marxist world republic ? Not enough welfare ? You dreamed of different kind of marxism, and now you are disappointed ?

The same people who brought to you all these socialist programs are bringing you the new world order, which is a political entity.

Socialism = a system in which society (by state force) takes care of responsiblities which are the duties of the individual. Such as feeding yourself, your wife, your children;
clothing yourself and your children, wife;
housing yourself, your wife and your children;
raising your children, paying for their education;
taking care of your health and paying for it;
taking care of your elderly parents;
etc.

Responsibilities of society
widows, orphans, fatherless

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Old 12-09-2004, 04:44 AM
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They are theft. The cancer is not some special kind of cell. It is just one that adopted the life-style of the parasite. It received the wrong information. In stead of learning to be productive, to provide for itself, etc., it learned that all it has to do is eat and grow, eat and grow, (even invented the philosophy of entitlement to the products of other people's work) untill it kills the normal cells around it, and the body dies.
Frankly your Attitude disgusts me!
You label those weaker than yourself e.g like the elderly and those that cant find a job as parasites and equal with animals.
You and your mate sablefish also advocate genocide or compulsary euthanasia to solve the welfare problem.The kind ideas Mengel Himmler and Hitler would have been proud of. I suppose next post you will be you advocating eugenics for the master race!:-x

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If you are a socialist, what is your objection to the marxist world republic ? Not enough welfare ? You dreamed of different kind of marxism, and now you are disappointed ?
Your over simplification of anyone that opposes you astounds me!.You obviously have no idea about ideology otherwise you would realise there are several forms of socialism of which Marxism is just one.

To label anyone that disagrees with your Redneck peabrain views a Marxist is absurd!
That means you may possibly be at odds with Henry Makow himself because he has claimed to agree with Lyndon Larouche a type of socialist because he advocates a Mixed capitalist economy!.

I know because i have had much to do with the La rouche movement here in Australia and happen to know exactly what their policies are!.
Further your completely deluded and reactionary in claiming there is some kind of Marxist world state in planning.
There maybe a world state in the future but there is no way by following facts and evidence of recent decades that the type of Economic system will be anything close to socialism.
What is emerging in the world today will be anything but Leftwing. On the contrary it is more likely to be Economic libertarian type technocracy and therefore Rightwing by definition.

So far as I am concerned the u.s administration already does the one world state administration function perfectly especially with their imperialist wars all over the Globe for the sake of their already bloated economy!.
Even without the U.N they behave in this manner. U.N or no U.N the U.S has always been pushing for world government!Wakeup and get your deluded facts straight!

Perhaps it is you that is in the wrong forum.
I think Stormfront whitepride worldwide would be more to your liking and limited intellect!
Here i will do you a favour and link it for you!
http://www.stormfront.org/

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Socialism = a system in which society (by state force) takes care of responsiblities which are the duties of the individual. Such as feeding yourself, your wife, your children;
As for this i agree but everyone has to have the oppertunity to participate in it not a minority.
At the present time not one western nation (third world things are even worse) has close to full employment.
Neither does business big or samll seem to be encouraging the conditions for full employment after they are interested in mortgages and Interest Rates and Inflation so why would they have more people employed than absolutely necessary.
The truth is they dont want full employment or secure employment.Although stats agencies both private and public are good at fudging unemployment figures to pretend they are creating more jobs Australia is good example!.Once again you are deluded wake and get your facts straight then debate me!

One thing is for sure you are not on my side over anything! It just goes to show one how wrong they can be about a forum and thinking that views about the NWO are anyhting close to their own!.
I think you are part of the diease and not part of the solution to my mind you are trolling here for troublemaking!.

btw: You have yet to answer the question in my initial post as to why you believe you are self sufficient of which you are plain deluded:-x
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>>And just what is wrong with these socialist programs as you call them?.

They are theft. The cancer is not some special kind of cell. It is just one that adopted the life-style of the parasite. It received the wrong information. In stead of learning to be productive, to provide for itself, etc., it learned that all it has to do is eat and grow, eat and grow, (even invented the philosophy of entitlement to the products of other people's work) untill it kills the normal cells around it, and the body dies.
The parasite always kills the host !

If you are a socialist, what is your objection to the marxist world republic ? Not enough welfare ? You dreamed of different kind of marxism, and now you are disappointed ?

The same people who brought to you all these socialist programs are bringing you the new world order, which is a political entity.

Socialism = a system in which society (by state force) takes care of responsiblities which are the duties of the individual. Such as feeding yourself, your wife, your children;
clothing yourself and your children, wife;
housing yourself, your wife and your children;
raising your children, paying for their education;
taking care of your health and paying for it;
taking care of your elderly parents;
etc.

Responsibilities of society
widows, orphans, fatherless

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Since you brought up the "Illuminati", could you point me to some original source regarding that outfit ?
Well Said!

Socialism,liberalism,Communism, has been a CANCER on humanity for too long. The NWO thrives on humanity being dependent on government, Yes, I agree that there are good social programs that are neccessary, but how much can a individual be taxed? 40% 50% 60% of income?

This is why I see myself as being a Independent Conservative, As the world turns! :-)
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:04 AM
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ozziecynic,

You are a socialist (thief ).
ALL TAXATION IS THEFT.
If so many people agree with you then voluntarily organise a charity to help them, there should be no problem. You are a government paycheck collector, I bet.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:30 AM
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To: Ozziecynic or Ozziethief

Quit your government job, I'm tired of carrying you. Also, refuse to attend a government run university as a "student", they're just brainwashing you with socialist ( theftist ) lies. Start your own business instead.

The biggest contribution a person can make towards halting the NWO juggernaut is to quit their government job. Morally speaking ALL TAXATION IS THEFT and therefore any one who collects a government check or contract ( a PARASITE ) is stealing. See: http://www.libertocracy.com/Webessays/taxation.htm . Their entire check is stolen money and they pay no taxes because the "taxes" they pay are just a return of stolen money to the MAFIA GOVERNMENT. People must learn that government has no money and that any money it does spend means that some other hardworking father/family somewhere in the laissez-faire, voluntary sector of the economy must cut back on nutritious food, clothing, shelter, self-defense, charity, self-healthcare, self-education AND NUMBER OF CHILDREN ( preventing a life that would have existed is the moral equivalent of murder ). These cutbacks cause that family to break down and when it happens to many families it is called a social breakdown.
People need to understand that there is a spiritual law that says Laudable Designs When Achieved Through Coercion Become Demonic. This means that if a person has even a good project to achieve, it will fail and costs will far exceed benefits, if the means used to achieve that goal ( like taxation ) involve forcibly interfering in anothers life.
And people who say they believe in the God of the Bible should know that after they die of old age ( hopefully ) there will be a spiritual judgment day. That each person will be judged by their thoughts, words and deeds and the intentions and motivations behind their thoughts, words and deeds. Rewards and punishments will be handed out. So people must realise that their crimes of prospering from the stolen loot called taxes will not go unpunished and that justice will be established by God ( your Creator because you did not create yourself by an act of your free-will ).
Again, to hinder and hamper the NWO agenda people should stop assisting with that agenda and quit their government job because they ARE hurting other people. Actually it is not a real job but is literally JOB WELFARE. Any goal or project can be achieved better by people organizing voluntarily like in a real capitalistic business rather that people organizing coercively like the SATANIC STATE does.
And, just briefly here, another major blow to the NWO agenda would be for everyone to stop using any of their so-called money. The system in place now should be called legalized counterfeiting and is probably the main component in advancing the NWO agenda. But now there is an alternative to this debased currency that people could start gradually using and promoting. You can read about it at www.libertydollar.org .
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:30 AM
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Those of you, who like future maps, check out this one from 1942

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/maps/list-world.html

1942 world map. "Outline of post-war new world map" by Maurice Gomberg
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