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Old 09-08-2005, 02:07 AM
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Tracking devices to be introduced. See link below:

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Old 09-08-2005, 03:29 AM
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Just how ridiculous is this?

This is a perfect example of why the ENTIRE war on terror is a FRAUD.

There are currently perfectly good laws that deal with the issues raised.

For instance, if I threaten to kill the Primeminister or anyone else, I can be charged with "threatening to kill". A serious charge.

There are 3000 ASIO field agents in this country and hundreds of Federal Police. If an individual is suspected of engaging in "terrorist activities"...they can be legally surveilled and evidence brought against them in a court of law.

It's quite simple really.

Instead, we get the useless and totally incompetent fools in the F.P and ASIO pulling off stunts like ringing the media to film them "breaking up a terrorist cell"...which resulted in...nothing. Because there was no terrorist cell. Just little Empire builders in the beauracracy desperate for publicity to maintain their budgets and mortgage repayments.

What a joke on the Australian people. But like the fools they are...they fall for it.

Australians LOVE to bag the Yanks as dumb and stupid. They might want to look in the mirror.
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:13 AM
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Australians aren't prone to challenging their government. A combination of not caring, and a history of blind allegiance. At least that's what I've found with them. It's the culture. If it's important enough to require righting, Ray Martin will jump on his television high horse and something usually gets retracted. The public is generally not consulted, and they don't really want the hassles. It's a young nation and without a strong history of self determination. Kind of like a big island of nice enough children.
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:27 AM
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Australians aren't prone to challenging their government. A combination of not caring, and a history of blind allegiance. At least that's what I've found with them. It's the culture. If it's important enough to require righting, Ray Martin will jump on his television high horse and something usually gets retracted. The public is generally not consulted, and they don't really want the hassles. It's a young nation and without a strong history of self determination. Kind of like a big island of nice enough children.
Know exactly what you mean :-o
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:42 AM
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We're both probably not Aussies then. lol

I remember the Kiwi whom installed my Telstra line about 10 years ago. He'd been living in Oz for almost 8 years, and myself about 2 weeks.

He asked what I thought of the region and such. Didn't really have a lot to say. But he did. heh

Like a burst dam he was. Though in a nutshell, he was particularly concerned about warning me of all the pitfalls of the culture (which I thought was rather harsh, him robbing me of the experiences )

Let's just say the man was nearly dead on. And probably went back years ago. He liked the people, but not the system and apathy. Which by default means that the people don't have a whole lot of input.

Personally, I like the legislative kneejerks for simple things like guard rails, and sea shells, and for residents whom want to permanently leave the nation, but not without their mandatory superannuation funds that only Canberra can draw out in their 30's anymore. And protests...love them too. Protests for biscuits, beer strikes, teacher strikes, nurse strikes, all on the most opportune day of their years.

And when being approached by police officers for no reason at all, I like knowing that I am powerless to question their motive and recieve a reason. Being herded into Booze and Drug Bus corrals like guilty sheep is always a soul enriching experience also. And the taxes... when the hidden tariffs, fines, and fees are added to income tax, half your money mysteriously disappears. And that's before you hit the 50,000 threshold when 47 or what odd rate legitimately becomes half your income.

All in all, I love the place.. lol (well, friends-family-hobbies, etc, I do)

And we have beaches! And Neighbours, and pre mix liquor in a can. 8-)
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Old 09-10-2005, 03:17 AM
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Being an Aussie, but having open eyes is a PITA.

Workmates discuss Australia Card, and Anti-Terrorism laws, and the need for "something to be done". When I ask how these measures are likely to achieve anything, the response is "well come up with something better"... or "If you've got nothing to hide, then there's no problem".

I complain that I am required by law to allow a Police officer into my house to inspect my firearms, and storage systems WITHOUT a warrant, and anything else that they see they can act on, I get a similar response "Port Arthur", "Got to do something", "nothing to hide, then nothing to worry about".
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