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Old 02-04-2005, 01:56 AM
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The concept of "political theology" was introduced by Carl Schmitt in 1922 in his justly famous and equally notorious Politische Theologie. A central claim of his theory is that all political concepts are secularised theological concepts. The author was discarded by the official political science because of his collaboration with the Nazis.

Until the modern times, i.e. tha last two centuries, people had lived in a theological society: religion was the very center of their lives. The modern concept of state brought with it the separation between it and church. Religion had to retire in the private area. “What’s wrong with it?” say a lot of people; I used to say it too, until my private study of politics and conspiracy revealed me one thing: what Illuminati hate most is Jesus Christ; their whole effort is directed against Christianity.

Many think that churches are part of the conspiracy too, and they may be right. The evil sect that rules the world is perverse enough to corrupt churches and transform the main Christian principles in “traps for fools”. That is why so many think that religion too is nothing but a tool of the elite.

If one doesn’t think religiously, one cannot comprehend what is going on. We are fighting first with ideas. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Eph 6:12)

What makes people tick is ideas. They have the same imaterial nature as the spirits. One of the Desert Fathers even said that thoughts are nothing but spirits.

Of course, that doesn’t mean that we should give up reasoning. But if we confine ourselves to use only our reason, we lose the most important part of the design.

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Old 02-04-2005, 03:18 AM
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what Illuminati hate most is Jesus Christ; their whole effort is directed against Christianity.
And the Buddha and Buddhism, and Islam, and in fact all peoples following a Traditional Way. I would say their whole effort is directed against any of the revealed religions that lead in their own way to God.
What the Illuminati hate the most is if Man broke the illusion thinking that Man is a "machine" or "animal" and came to the insight that Man is the image of God and hence, has the Divine in Her.

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Many think that churches are part of the conspiracy too, and they may be right. The evil sect that rules the world is perverse enough to corrupt churches and transform the main Christian principles in “traps for fools”. That is why so many think that religion too is nothing but a tool of the elite.
Yeah, I used to think that too, but then I looked at my grandmother and thought, "she's not fooled by the elite; she goes to church and prays honestly, not because she believes in God but becuase the KNOWS God IS." She wasn't praying "for show", guilt, safety, fear; she couldn't care less about such things.

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Of course, that doesn’t mean that we should give up reasoning. But if we confine ourselves to use only our reason, we lose the most important part of the design.
Man is not ONLY intelligence.
The human intelligence according to Boethius is made up of:

Intellectus (Spirit)

Ratio

Imaginatio

Sensus

Of these four only the Intellectus is in the domain of metaphysics.
Ratio is, or should be "the handmaid" to the Intellectus.

Now, when I talk about the Intellect I don't mean it in the modern, erroneous way. People today use the word Intellect when they actually mean Reason.

The problem today is that Modern Science has put Reason above the Intellect; letting the Intellect be ruled by Reason when it should be the other way around!

The Intellect is enthroned in the heart; not the centre of the body, but the CENTRE OF THE SOUL. This is what the Sufis talk about when they refer to "the eye of the heart".

According to universal doctrine, Man lost sight of the Heart at Man's fall. Man lost the direct sense of the transcendent. Hence the NEED for metaphysics; the doctrine of the transcendent.
The main purpose of all esoterism (TRUE esoterism!) is to open that inward eye which is blind, in the Soul.
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:08 AM
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I don't think that the Reason has been put above the Intellect; what they've been trying to do is to wipe out the Intellect completely! And I'm afraid they have succeded for the most of us ... Thus they have obtained a "new species": a man that is a mere animal with reason. A perfect slave.

About the properties of Imaginatio, do you know about the distinction made by the famous alchemist Paracelsus between "imaginatio phantastica" and "imaginatio vera"?
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:35 AM
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I don't think it is possible to destroy the Intellect. I do agree with you though that they sure try! But I think as long as a person is alive there is hope his/her Intellect will awaken. (We are made in God's image after all, despite all our failings and imperfections.) For some it takes a personal tragedy or serious trauma for it to awaken. Others seek to awaken it on purpose.

"There is only One Light, and "you" and "me" are holes in the lamp shade."
(MAHMUD SHABISTARI)

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"About the properties of Imaginatio, do you know about the distinction made by the famous alchemist Paracelsus between "imaginatio phantastica" and "imaginatio vera"?"
No. I'm all ears. I mean eyes. ;-)
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:48 AM
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He defied the scientists of the time to make "tabula rasa" in their heads: to get away from any knowledge of the outward world and to concentrate inward instead. But he warned them there are two types of objects in the imagination: scraps based on reality (phantasy) and those that a true seeker should find.
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:55 AM
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Quite good, that.

On another note:

do you think that what today would be mistakenly called New Age, i.e. anything other than Christianity is Evil?

The Buddhists for instance, have a totally different view on existence, metaphysics, "God", time and space. They often talk about "paranormal" events/skills.

Therefore; are they evil?
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Old 02-04-2005, 10:08 PM
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Observation: :-o :-o :-o

Conspiracy == Neo[Con's Piracy]

The Great Pirates - World Order Derived From Deception & Maintained Through Deception
"The great pirates, the traders and sea dwellers who needed men organized on land to expedite their trading created monarchies. Pirates were inherently outlaws. Pirates lived outside the system. The only laws that could, and did, rule them were natural laws. Pirates battled with one another to see who was going to control the vast sea routes and, eventually, the world." - by Ben Mack
http://solutions.synearth.net/2004/05/14
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Old 02-04-2005, 10:15 PM
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Brittania ruled the waves ergo the empire.

Imperialization or globalization?
Colonization of land or the mind?

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Old 02-05-2005, 01:13 AM
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Well said shatrani!

It's okay, madkhao. I'm on your side even if you don't see it now. Just a final observation: a religion needs to have the two components of exoterism and esoterism.
If the exoterism is represented by the tree and it's roots, branches, flowers then the esoterism is represented by the core of the tree, the sap.

Ok, I will be without a computer for a few days, but I'll be back!

Truth, Beauty, Love to all God's creatures.
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Old 02-05-2005, 05:09 PM
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Draken, it's not about being on my side, that would be exoterically thinking, it's about being on Christ' side, and that is the esoteric level, even if you don't see it now.

Many have spoken of Love but only One died for us, only One can take our sins away. That's why I agree to disagree.
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