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Old 02-07-2005, 06:38 AM
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Default WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR...and did I mention...WAR!


The internet continue's to buzz...

War with Iran.

War with China.

War with Syria.

War with North Korea.

War with New Zealand...

...yes, if they keep embarrassing Israel. You see, it takes a nation of sheep lovers to cast out the wolf. Australia following? Well, Johnny is good for something after all.

I am no military expert but I've read a Commando Comic and Tom Clancy novel or two in my time so, I'm going to share some basic military knowledge with you.

I wish, how I wish it shuts up the Net talk of war.

Firstly, the U.S military does not have the logistical resources to attack and occupy Iran.

That is a simple and REALLY REALLY obvious F-A-C-T.

The fact that this F-A-C-T continues to be basically ignored by the entire world media (barring very few exceptions) tells me something about all this war talk...it's all...talk.

War with China? China invading Taiwan? Firstly, the invasion of Taiwan by China would turn very quickly into what Thomas Barnett describes as the "Million Man Swim".

I urge you if you can, to get a hold of "The Pentagons New Map" by Thomas Barnett. It's a DVD over 2 hous long and you will be amazed at what you hear.

It's a lecture aimed at Pentagon middle managers so you will actually hear the truth much like the Wall Street Journal who obviously have to tell the truth to it's readers...they run the planet.

Thats what I love about the NWO and all it's hangers on. It's an elephant roaming around apparently invisible to the majority...right there in plain site.

Think tanks, discussion papers, Journal articles, all detailing how the NWO is going to lock you down and it's all there for you to read...if you can be bothered.

I digress...

There are many scenario's to what may unfold in the M.E. With the net now abuzz with every NWO turn you would be a brave man (or woman) to confidently predict an exact unfolding.

My scenario is a simple arial bombing campaign of Iran, between both Israel and the U.S. Perhaps they will be bothered setting up an excuse but I doubt it. They will probably just do it. The Muzzies will be even more stirred up...all the better.

Perhaps a more sinsiter plot will involve a itchy trigger fingered Israel dropping a few cherries on Iran and then a staged chemical/biological/nuclear retaliation by Iran run by western covert ops.

Lots of U.S casualties on the ground in Iraq. Or, maybe (even better) lots of Israeli casualties in Israel and then with a cry... "no more holocausts for the Jews", the Jews will visit one on the Iranians.

A U.S retaliation with new tactical nukes on various targets of oppurtunity may be it. Besides nuke sites they will probably do over the Iranians water supply, power grid and and primary schools which may be harbouring WMD...just to keep everyone in line.

Irans economy has it's difficulties but it is quite independent. Hence another lesson to be taught...no independent development.

I seriously doubt a U.S based terror attack of great size.

Too many people in the Intelligence and security services would revolt. They and their families have to live there. Better to have great casualties overseas.


The main perpose of these wars is as it always has been...centralise power/distract the peasants.

Talk is even enough. It works for the U.S Elites and it works for the Chinese Elites. The U.S rampage also works for Europe as European peasants wag their fingers at those trigger happy Americans.

I dont doubt the many mouths at the carcass all with a particular hunger to fill...keeping the restless peasants busy while a nice population reduction is organised is the end game.

I urge the reader to watch "Wag The Dog". Never was this story more true.

I also urge you to read or re-read Goerge Orwell (Eric Blair) "1984". Truly a classic. An absoloute classic.

Forget oil, forget money...keeping you occupied is the main game...then hopefully dead.

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Old 02-07-2005, 07:53 AM
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Great post!

The NWO is on a hard sale. No soft sale here folks. You must buy!

Rome comes to my mind.

Well before I started reading this NWO stuff, back in November, I have had visions of North America being a platform for civil war through increasing racial tensions. I have learned in life that multiculturalism is a facade for racism here in Canada and is set up to isolate, demonize and exterminate - a Nazi philosophy.

I think they are currently having a hard time feeding and supplying the troops they presently have deployed in Iraq. I do not believe that America will tolerate a draft. That's when I think real civil war will become very plausible. In most countries that have undergone civil war, the destructive nature and violence of teens is often a very good marker for upcoming major civil unrest. Doesn't look good for North America.

I believe Swissair 111 was downed as a precursor and pre-advertising to 911. I also believe that they will stage another show to sell us folks into the NWO... I have a funny feeling it will be in Canada where we are supposedly the peace keepers of the world with the UN bullshit and all. If the peace-loving Canadians were attacked, would the world not respond? See where I believe they are going with this - for the long run.

Do they have the skills? Not enough.
Do they have the brain power? They tell too many lies.
Do they have the technology? YES. Scary.

I had a most interesting Sunday chat with a drug dealer, by chance. Both his dad and himself and me concur on this one premise.

The world is being run by a bunch of senile old fucks who are just about ready to die and then the whole world is gonna change. They are a dying breed of evil.

Too bad - so sad.

They want us to war when we just want to live.

Will this civil war come to pass? I believe it will be scary times in about four more years - when they remove the social net from society... you know that they are going to fell her.

Things do not bode well for the U.S. with Bush privatising - giving his friends a blank cheque from the S.S. funds - social security. I have good evidence to believe that Canada will be quick to follow suit.

For a while to come - the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The chasm will deepen.

I believe Martial law may be an upcoming temporary problem if they can spark up society towards civil war. If they can sell the public this WAR WAR WAR advertising. They are placing war on the mind just as they did sex through advertising and socialengineering. What will this create in the mind of society - a society that wars with itself.

Another bad sign will be the further lowering of the age of consent for sexual relations. I can see that one coming pretty quickly too. Rome is collapsing.

What gives me hope? Too many good people know too much and are no longer willing to stand by and do nothing. They are telling more and more people the truth. I believe I have given many here a very sound understanding of Nova Scotian corrupt politics and her evil ways. Canada is collapsing as we speak and the tide is turning on a community level. Halifax is a shining example of corruption. Also, their are many here who would seek to change that corruption into honesty.

Back in the 1600's, a man named Joseph Howe went into Province House, where I have been banned from twice for speaking the truth... he went into the library and read the corrupt politicians their fortune for 6 hours. After his most enlightening speech - the guard changed for a while... and now we are back to more and more of the self-same dirty sewage called political corruption.

What gives me hope? This system must collapse so a new one may rise - the New World Order? The devil is gonna rule the world? I just cannot see it happening. The earth is God's creation for his creation - humanity. This was not meant to be the devil's playground. It just doesn't make rational sense to me.

The world is living a lie and sooner or later, every man must face the lies within his own life, in order to deal with the lie that is the devil.

Think of it as a conversion challenge. There is a warring demon they's like to place into the minds of all - his name is Lucifer/a.k.a.Satan/a.d.a. the Devil. He believes himself the god of destruction and he can very well be a very destructive influence in the lives of humanity.

This is spiritual warfare folks. What demons do you carry and how do they influence your perceptions thereby altering your reality and your future? To forgive is divine to oneself. Compassion should be the ultimate human goal. Sensing your fellow man; his joy, his happiness, his sorrow - his heart.

Isn't that what parents are supposed to be for their children? Compassionate - sensing their needs.

They are betting on you believing that the devil will win - hence the WAR WAR WAR advertising into your minds. The message they are selling into the mind of society is telling you to think war.

God has sent and continues to send a message of hope and peace. You can find it in love and compassion anywhere on the planet. There is always a hope for peace as sure as the truth always comes to light, the sun always rises, and the Grace of God exists - I believe.

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Old 02-07-2005, 09:26 AM
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Thats the point Mary. We cant lose. Simple time. Simple changing of the gaurd. It's the Age Of Aquarius baby!

These sick so and so's are at the last gasp. Thats what scares me. It's all or nothing.

The "New Jeruselum". Kingdom Of God is inevitable.

We must only ask..."how many have/will die before it manifests".

Through all the doom and gloom I'm optimistic.

They will back down. Absoloutly.

Once the point of optimal frustration is reached the sleeping giant that is the suspicious middle class that cant quite put there finger on it will wake up.

Of course I can afford to be optimistic. I live in the safest place on Earth. My biggest worry is whether my fish is well cooked at my favourite restaurant down in Scarborough.

I pity the M.E.

I pity North America, who will maybe have to physically fight in a civil type war or at least an internal blood bath.

Europe has sold out. They are enjoying there benevolent socialist ankle chains.

Australians are still surfing.

Time will tell.

Get some sleep woman. :-o
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:08 PM
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What if you're all wrong? :-?

Just asking.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR...and did I mention...WAR!

What if we are right?

Is the glass half empty or is it half full?

Pessimism vs. optimism

Hope vs. despair

I know my choices! Do you?

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Old 02-07-2005, 11:42 PM
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You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened for those things must take place but the end is not yet. Matthew 24:6

There will be no peace for 2005 - a prediction I stumbled upon not of my own
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:11 AM
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It's normal to vacillate betwwen optimism and pessimism.

I have no sole claims to the truth.

I know alot about the military, it's capabilities and it's foibles.

I know alot about power.

I am also careful not to tilt at windmills...Goerge Bush is human. So is Lord Rothschild.

God works in mysterious ways.

The human spirit can never be crushed...NEVER.

They know this. They had a go. They lost.

Thank God for the internet. Without it they could have easily pulled it off.

If we must ask things like..."why does'nt God do something"? God did. He gave the human race the internet.

Though not out of the woods yet I have a sneaking suspicion they will be winding down the NWO program.

Here in Oz there are obvious signs of a backlash to the U.N, banking and social interference by Elites. I hope it's true in other countries.

It may take 100 years to totally usher in a stable and prosperous planet for all.

It wont happen overnight but it will happen.

All around ne I see people waking up.

One way they like to control is to make you feel alone. Believe me you ar'nt.

It's normal to feel discouraged. You're probably watching the mainstream press which is only going to give you what they want to hear and even some progressive web sites seem to be getting their rocks off talking about Bush and his endless war machine.

In the end do you believe in God? Do you believe that deep inside their is something that at times seems to push you in the right direction?

Whatever transpires these next few years, those that truly have faith will be protected. Those that are willing to wait for, and listen for signs will heed them.

Thanks Mad...i forgot about that simple line from the bible. Never truer than right now.

Whatever happens...life goes on. We will only see the end of a way of life, not the end of it.

I have utter and total faith the human race is waking up...thats why they started this in the first place.

Dont feel guilty about enjoying yourself. Even in troubled times. The answers will come. The helper will come.

Genuine best to all.
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:36 PM
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In "1984", Winston Smith mentioned something about,"The power is with the proles. If only they'd wake up and shake big brother off of them like a horses tail brushes off flies." Assuming you read the story True, you know the proles never did wake up and Winston learned to love Big Brother. It's interesting how people who stand up to the State these days disappear. Kinda odd, eh? :-P
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: WAR Yes Srikes the Most secret Weapon to Date TrueBullshit!

TrueBullshit: :roll::lol:
The U.S may not have the resources to attempt the invasion of Iran, or any other pariah nations, but they will attempt it anyway becasue it is part of their grand strategic Neo con plan for the mideast.
Its all outlined in the neocon guidebook " A Project For A New American Century" about toppling all mideast regimes.Iraq is just the first among many when they are finished with it they will turn on political dissidents in their own country Howard and Blair will attempt the same in their respective countries!

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I wish, how I wish it shuts up the Net talk of war.

Why TB?. Are you such pro zion lover that you would like nothing better than the Goy to stay asleep!


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Firstly, the U.S military does not have the logistical resources to attack and occupy Iran.
Facts TB Where are they where to do you source them from?.

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That is a simple and REALLY REALLY obvious F-A-C-T.
No Tb just your opinion Not Fact!.

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The fact that this F-A-C-T continues to be basically ignored by the entire world media (barring very few exceptions) tells me something about all this war talk...it's all...talk.
Really i havent heard of the mainstream Media in Australia talking up any such thing.Only certain documentaries on ABC SBS not the commerical stations!.What could they gain from giving away U.S secrets!.

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War with China? China invading Taiwan? Firstly, the invasion of Taiwan by China would turn very quickly into what Thomas Barnett describes as the "Million Man Swim".
Doesnt mean that it wont occur!

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I urge you if you can, to get a hold of "The Pentagons New Map" by Thomas Barnett. It's a DVD over 2 hous long and you will be amazed at what you hear.
Another neo con stooge i have checked that info it is bogus necon trash!.

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It's a lecture aimed at Pentagon middle managers so you will actually hear the truth much like the Wall Street Journal who obviously have to tell the truth to it's readers...they run the planet.
NWO consipracies sites are fine until it they hijacked by disifno ziogandist like TB.


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There are many scenario's to what may unfold in the M.E. With the net now abuzz with every NWO turn you would be a brave man (or woman) to confidently predict an exact unfolding.
Well the only reason you dont who is correct is because you are confused yourself TB. Not because others here are wrong!.

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My scenario is a simple arial bombing campaign of Iran, between both Israel and the U.S. Perhaps they will be bothered setting up an excuse but I doubt it. They will probably just do it. The Muzzies will be even more stirred up...all the better.
Doesnt matter how they do it the point is they will do whatever it takes to dominate the Pariah states!


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Perhaps a more sinsiter plot will involve a itchy trigger fingered Israel dropping a few cherries on Iran and then a staged chemical/biological/nuclear retaliation by Iran run by western covert ops.
Possible but then so is land invasion just as plauseable!

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Lots of U.S casualties on the ground in Iraq. Or, maybe (even better) lots of Israeli casualties in Israel and then with a cry... "no more holocausts for the Jews", the Jews will visit one on the Iranians.
Show your jew credentials again TB.Why do you wish for the YIDS to avoid their punishment!.
The only reason could be your heart crying out for mother zion!. :-( :lol:

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The main perpose of these wars is as it always has been...centralise power/distract the peasants.
No the main purpose of the war on Terror is to wipe out all independent ideologies and religions that oppose U.S hegemony in the Globe. They cannot have their one world state until all pariah states are brought to heal that seriously oppose the U.S.
In the process they are also given the oppertunity to save and give Isreal dominance in the Middle east!.


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I dont doubt the many mouths at the carcass all with a particular hunger to fill...keeping the restless peasants busy while a nice population reduction is organised is the end game.
Only agreement so far.

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Forget oil, forget money...keeping you occupied is the main game...then hopefully dead.
Crap TB youve obviously never heard of the book "Project for an American Century" I have read extracts which prove exactly what the present neocon junta has in mind and it is nothing so simple as just keeping people occupied its blue print for controlling the whole world under U.S dominance! :-?

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I wish, how I wish it shuts up the Net talk of war.
If I am correct in few weeks or months time and you are wrong wont all this spiel look like such a wank! :roll:
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Ozziecynic, what is this total hate campaign towards truebeliever? Give it a rest and try to see things from a different perspective.

I think the point TB is trying to make is that he's tired of all the talk of war no matter where it comes from. We can't do anything about stopping it from happening in the end. It doesn't matter how much we try to forsee what their plans are or how much we think we know of their strategies. It's all useless in the end, UNLESS you realise that focussing on this futile game of guesses doesn't lead to the salvation of your Soul. IF you take a step back and try to see the whole picture from above, you'll realise you've been putting your energy on trying to forsee something you can't influence which is a distraction in itself from the absolutely essential, which is our Souls.

I've had this growing suspicion that the spreading of negative, destructive news worldwide is blunting our senses, desensitizing us to violence, terror, shock, destruction and unfathomable human suffering, which in turn slowly destroys our gift of empathy for our fellow man. I think THAT is the agenda for spreading horrible images of catastrophies - natural and man-made - wars, famines, destruction and suffering worldwide through the mass media.

This morbid fascination with, and compulsion for death and destruction which is forced on us is lethal for our Souls.

To want and yearn to do something positive, something GOOD for the benefit of our fellow man doesn't have to mean that you're not aware of what's going on around the globe. But out of this horrible state of being you have to come out and say, "I know horrible things are happening in the world. Now I want to focus on the GOOD things happening in the world."
And the only thing we CAN do is to take care of OURSELVES and our Divine Souls given to us by God.

We have to break the addiction to news about death; the fascination with destruction; the futile guesswork of where the next Neocon war is going to be staged.

There's not much time - the world might blow up tomorrow.

What have you done to nurture and refine your Divine Soul?
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