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Old 12-06-2004, 01:30 PM
madkhao madkhao is offline
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Just interested in knowing what fellow members think about this theory. WARNING very very long
http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Branton_The_Dulce_Files_Chapter33_Phil_Schneider_V s_The_New_World_Order.html
I must say, long before I ever heard of the NWO and when I was a unbeliever about UFOs myself, I saw one with my very own eyes. So I understand skeptism but I haven't thrown this theory into the trash.

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Old 12-09-2004, 03:17 PM
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Strange as it seems I read the whole thing.. (that's how bored it I am) It reminds me of David Icke.. From my point of view this, as wild as it sounds, this may be closer to the Big picture than anthing else.. I mean it's so tinfoil hat, it's probably very close to the truth.

The last part of it where the guy says that the greys tell him he is the prophet sounds a little far fetched.. other than that.. very interesting.
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:07 PM
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I seiously question an information from any participant of Aleister Crowley "Magic" or the Goldren Dawn. Them boys are into Lucifer and the "Dawn" is all over that site.

Always keep an open mind...
And be aware

Mary XXX
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:08 PM
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I've read about NWO and the UFO's or IFO's.
President Ronald Reagen,(watch out for another actor turned President Arnold the Barbarian in08)
Reagen would have UFO's in his speeches and was into/interested/belonged? to the Occult. I do not have the exact quote but it was along the lines of an extraterrestrial threat and humanity fending off the ET invaders... kinda like that Independence Day movie (illuminati propaganda)
It would be the NWO-Satan-Illuminati wild card to be played when their power structure is close to complete collapse.
So far they have defeated the Dictator mass murderer Hitler (which "they" all helped fund) Next enemy was communism (russia and china) and the cold war that controls the population through constant fear of MAD (mutual agreed destruction). Russia lost its "money" to an insane arms race and internal sabotage. NOW the US trades with China like they've been friends for a century. Next enemy please ... in comes Osama and terrorism .. who knows when this will end?? I don't have a clue ... I guess when the Axis of Evil meets its demise.

Germany was a place of pillaging after WW2. USA got its project paperClip .. the Nazi scientist and blueprints for new technology.
On a personal basis I have seen questionable objects in the sky with and without other witnesses. If you know of Nicola Tesla there is nothing, it seems , that is impossible.

Anyways here are some search tools, names places and times to check out for yourself:
google KeyWord search: nazi 3rd reich ufo
http://www.violations.dabsol.co.uk/secrets/secretspart1.htm
aircraft designer Rudolph Schriever

His claims are backed up by a 1975 Luftfahrt International Report that noted that after Shrieverís death in the late 1950s, papers found amongst his belongings revealed incomplete notes for a large flying saucer, a series of sketches of the machine and several newspaper clippings of himself and his alleged flying saucer. Up to his death, Schriever had repeatedly claimed that the UFO sightings since the end of the war were proof that his original ideas had been taken further with successful results.

That these events occurred is also supported by former CIA agent Virgil Armstrong who commented "We know that in the early parts of the war there were certain factions of the Allied forces that did not believe he had a secret weapon and it wasnít until the Americans made much emphasis of this that they began to look at it seriously and indeed did discover that Hitler not only had a secret weapon, he had what we would call today a UFO or spacecraft.



Reagen:
http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm

The efforts to maintain silence on the subjects of UFOs, ghosts, astrology, and Armageddon by White House staffers, however, were not always successful. Reagan was a big fan of the occult, so from time to time these items would appear in Reagan speeches. In a February 11, 1988 speech called, Remarks at the Annual Conservative Political Action Conference Dinner Reagan was able to get both ghosts and UFOs in the same speech. In the speech written for Reagan by Pulitzer Prize winning speech writer Tony Dolan Reagan said:

...By the way, something odd happened just before I got here tonight that I think you should know about. I got a message from Dave Keane reminding me that this was the eve of Lincoln's birthday-and suggesting I go upstairs and check on the ghost in Lincoln's bedroom. I did. And what do you know, there was Stan Evans dressed as Abe Lincoln. And he kept saying, "Listen to Jesse Helms.". . . Well, we conservatives have been in Washington now for a while and we occasionally need to remind ourselves what brought us here in the first place: our unshakable, root-deep, all-encompassing skepticism about the capital city's answer to the UFO, that bizarre, ever-tottering but ever-flickering saucer in the sky called "The Prevailing Washington Wisdom.


There were a great number of these UFO, ghost, and Armageddon references written into Reagan speeches. Whether the UFO comments were planned or slips of the tongue by Reagan, the first controversial UFO comment would not be made by Reagan but by a senior member of the National Security Agency, writing on Reaganís behalf.

On September 28, 1981, President Reagan received a letter from Major Ret. Colman VonKeviczky. VonKeviczky was the Director of the International UFO Galactic Spacecraft Research and Analytic Network (ICUFON). This group held that UFOs "represented an intergalactic task force that will destroy earth unless world leaders band together to end their hostile actions against UFOs."

The idea of a war against beings of another world also went back many years before Reagan became President. War hero General Douglas MacArthur spoke of "an ultimate conflict between a united human race and the sinister forces of some other planetary galaxy." Mayor Achille Lauro of Naples, Italy, quoted MacArthur as telling him, "the earth would have to make a common front against attack by people from other planets."

During the Nixon administration, there was open discussion inside the government about the potential threat from aliens coming to Earth. An article written by Michael Michaud, a career diplomat in the State Department, pointed out the Nixon administrationís worry about extraterrestrials:

Aliens from other solar systems are a potential threat to us, and we are a potential threat to them. Scientists and others have often postulated that extraterrestrial societies more advanced than ours would be less warlike. Regrettably, the stereotypes of the benevolent, super intelligent alien may be as unrealistic as the stereotype of the bug-eyed monster carrying off shapely human females. Even if a species had achieved true peace within its own ranks, it would still be worried about us, and would take the measures it felt were necessary to protect itself. This includes the possibility (not the inevitability) of military action . . . Our basic interest will be to protect ourselves from any possible threat to Earthís security . . . "
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:41 PM
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I think this war against "terrorism" is self protection for the war against the elites.. I think 9/11 was an inside job and that al Qaeda is is employed by the NWO. I think all these Patriot Acts that are put in place are to protect politicians, governments, and the corporations that control them against their own citizen/subjects.

I wish the powers that be would have chosen to attack the U.F.Os instead of us...
Any enemy would have been fine to cause more public debt.. Why did it have to be us?
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:50 PM
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Phew! I am so glad I finally got some opinions on this topic.

I was thinking...Ohhh great! I had to be the one to bring Sci-Fi BS into this "seriously political conspiracy dicussion"

Sablefish,

I pretty much thought the same thing that you did. I mean...the little greys and the big greys? That WAS too much. But it makes me wonder...this story had the movies Alien, Predator, Alien vs Predator, Dreamcatcher and a few others.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

God tells us that Satan is the father of lies.
At best he tells a half truth.
In the garden of Eden he told Eve, "..you shall not die...your eyes will be opened and ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil"

I know Satan is truly creative when it comes to lies - but could it be a half truth?

I believe that spirits, good and bad, are unseen and able to manifest themselves in us. Then we ourselves start living like angels or demons. Now when one becomes illuminated with the WRONG light, posessing too much knowledge of mostly EVIL, who knows what they are capable of creating or building. A piddly little thing like a ufo when God created the Heavens and the Earth.

ThokhanCep, what did the unquestionable objects that you saw look like? The one I saw looked like this . . . . .
Great picture huh? Five red lights moving across a starry sky when I used to live outside the Toronto area. It was too slow to be a shooting star and it was too fast to be a plane. They were in perfect line with each other and the only words that ever comes to my mind to describe its flight is fast and SMOOTH!
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