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Old 02-15-2005, 06:20 AM
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Peace,

The main theme on the conspiracy websites is "the illuminati" are behind everything!
Yet this "illuminati" was never identified!
Who is behind the confusion? and why?
Some say they are the Rothchilds, some say they are the Jews, some say they are the Freemasons, or the neocons!
If this is true, why are they fighting teach other? why the devision?

What are we following?, nothing but conjecture and guesswork.

Rest assured that there is no such "united" front, and there shall never exist sucha unity among Satan's troops. Why? because Satan's ideology is based upon devide and rule, his main goal is the destruction of the human being. He developes bonds between his followers and false gods (mere mortals, power, status, money, women...etc) then naturally these attachments result in a conflict of interests.

Why Satan want to hide behind this "illuminati" propaganda? to distract us from the main issue, the main issue is that we individually have developed the same attachments like those potential suspects (aka: elite illuminati).

The Christians have a big idol, Jesus, the Sunni muslims also have an idol, Muhammad, the Shi'a muslims have another idol, Ali (Muhammad's cousin). As for the Jews, they have many, Rabbis, Isreal and their egoes.

this is not an attack on anyone, but rather a stating of facts. If all these religions have the same god, what are they fighting about? The messenger of the covenant Rashad Khalifa said it right, they are fighting because of the human factor. If there are no idols (false gods), if there were no false attachments (obsessions, addictions, phobias and hates) there would be no reason to fight.

So as you can see Satan thrives on this devision. Introducing this invincible elite propaganda will further distract us, we human beings from the fundamental issue, that we have disregarded God en masse in favor of human and material idols.

Don't believe me! ask yourself "what occupies your mind most of the time" and believe it or not, whatever it is (e.g:Jesus, illuminati, saints, women) It is your god.

[10:18] They worship beside GOD idols that possess no power to harm them or benefit them, and they say, "These are our intercessors at GOD!" Say, "Are you informing GOD of something He does not know in the heavens or the earth?" Be He glorified. He is the Most High; far above needing partners.

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:48 AM
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Hello Ahmad. Just want to say, that I've read your posts througout the differenct topics, and really I can't help to ask the obvious, but... So, in other words you are sold on the idea that this satan is to blame for everything? Correct? Sorry, but I'm really having a difficult time accepting the existence of this satan creature/man/god or what have you. We have free will. Man has greed, lust, etc. Man is just working it to the max. I'm sorry, but I get tired of the satan thing. You give him/it/whatever too much attention, and credit. It seems to me you give this 'satan' life.
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:44 AM
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Peace,

Saying that Satan is the real enemy, doesn't mean believing that he has power.

The main message of God throughout history was just that: " Satan has no power, only God has power".

You feed Satan when you buy his propaganda, a big industry that given this momentum will take over from mainstream media!, Alex Jones alone is said to have more than 2 millions of audience!

You feed Satan when you believe that he has a power to benefit you (thus buy his false promises of gratification) or harm you (thus become handicapped with fear).

The march to Victory and freedom begins here and now, no need to wait for a human savior to save you!. Look for your addictions, phobias and destroy them and return back to God, none except He can give us what we need.

Someone said that, the greatest trick of Satan is convincing us that he doesn't exist.
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Old 02-15-2005, 10:19 AM
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The main theme on the conspiracy websites is "the illuminati" are behind everything!
Yet this "illuminati" was never identified!
Who is behind the confusion? and why?
Some say they are the Rothchilds, some say they are the Jews, some say they are the Freemasons, or the neocons!
If this is true, why are they fighting teach other? why the devision?

What are we following?, nothing but conjecture and guesswork.
Division is a diversion

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much of what passes as "scholarship" on the net is bunk.
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Old 02-15-2005, 02:03 PM
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hell-o, why do we say hell-o
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Old 02-15-2005, 10:38 PM
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'Hello' is probably a derivation of the German word 'heil' from 'zig heil' or 'hail' as in hailing a cab. The o suffix is probably a Britishism as in Cheeri-o! All speculation on my part.

Back on topic, I've always thought that an obsession with identifying numerology, for example, in all matters masonic, is sort of giving their deeds more life. Certain things are unavoidable to notice like WWI ending on Nov 11 at 11 am etc. but when people start getting into multiplying and dividing that seems counter productive.

I've always felt it was better to not label who was doing the damage, but what they were doing.
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Old 02-24-2005, 09:23 PM
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The mistake made by many researchers is not their recognition of some conspiratorial design intrinsic to the unfolding of history, but their attempts to explain the complexities of that design with simplistic unifying theories. Typically, such unifying theories presuppose the existence of a “master plan.” Although there are common conspiratorial objectives and discernible continuities of thought, such a “master plan” does not exist. It is a fiction, justifiably satirized by characters like Imperious Leader of Rocky and Bulwinkle fame.

Daniel Pouzzner accurately characterizes them as “a network of affiliations and alliances, some strong and some weak, some advertised and some secret.” While there is no “master plan,” there is a master objective. All of these groups share “a common goal of world rule by oligarchy.” However, their projects in establishing an oligarchical world government exhibit “varying degrees of coordination, coherency, and internal contention.”

As a “conspiracy of humans,” the conspiracy is replete with all of the inherent weaknesses of humanity. The Illuminati still exists, but only as a unifying religious doctrine shared among the elites. Even this, however, is not entirely galvanized. Just as the common churches have denominations, so do the Illuminati. There are different varieties of illuminism, but all have the same philosophical ends.

Hope that clears some things up for you.
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Old 02-24-2005, 09:31 PM
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Could'nt agree more w102pdc!

Well said.

Whatever...if it walks like an Elite conspiricy, talks like an Elite conspiricy, and looks like an Elite conspiricy then thats exactly what it is.

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Old 02-25-2005, 06:52 AM
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Peace 55132,

"To bring things in perspective no other religion has a book that clearly states the killing of non belivers by practitioners as way to achieve heaven as the muslim have."


If you are talking about the real religion of "Submission" (Islam in Arabic), the creed of Abraham, then you are totally wrong, because the final testament, Quran has no such thing as killing the non believers.

But if you mean the current corrupt religion of "Islam" then you are right, they have substituted Quran with the satanic "Hadith" man made books which are the equivelant to the Talmoud.

Here is an example of a "Hadith" (literaly means a "Saying" falsely attributed to Muhammad and collected over 200 years after his death) feel free to read this short article,

http://www.usn2161.net/nickberg.html
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