The early leaders of Christianity felt that they needed to hide their true belief with some of the pagan beliefs that were popular in Rome at that time. Why? Christians were being fed to lions. They also felt that Christian leaders in the future would bring the truth to light. If they came back to earth today. They would be shocked that the Christian leadership continues to hold on to those teachings, which were only designed to continue until Christianity was no longer perscuted in the land. They would think with all this modern technology, how could Christians continue to have a baby understanding of religion. Most of the light in the Bible is hidden by symbolism. Yes, you have your basics that is easy to understand, but there is also a hidden message in the Bible as well. All of the stories of the prophets are completely symbolic. Those with intelligence know that Noah's ark is symbolic. Actually, a symbolic understanding of the Bible would join both Science and religion together with no more fighting between the two. Creation points to the fact that there is a great intelligence behind creation and religion calls that great intelligence God. When you begin to discover the great beauty behind the symbolism in the Bible, it would make your faith much more stronger and evolve you closer to the Christ within.
In Discovery magazine there is a small article about the early churches in Rome. It seems that the crucifix was not the original icon for belief in Christ. The early Christians were underground, called themselves the People of the Way, and used the fish symbol (IXTHUS). It wasn't until 313 A.D. that the cross became popular under the rule of Constantine.
I agree that Noah's ark is a powerful icon and is rich in symbolism. For archeological proof of the flood and suvivors, see Jonathan Gray at:
This site is his marketing tool, so you will have to search for articles by keying to his name on the web. The book, however, is well worth the cost for those who are looking for scientific bases of Bible stories.
One danger of what you address, Akbar, is that those who do not have a root undrstanding of what Chiristianity is are vulnerable to theological erosion and outright fraud. For example, Jesus never emphasized "becoming a good person" in the sense of the Zen teaching of achieving earthly perfection and Nirvana, etc. Jesus said, "Follow me"; he said that if we take his advise to heart we will know the freedom and strenght of the Truth. It is about relationship with God and with each other, pure and simple.
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Let me get this right. Jesus is not the Son of God, but instead just a well meaning profit. A forerunner of Muhammad. The Bible is not the factual and understandable Word of God just a symbolic work. A work whose interpretation is open to any who claim to be able, in their wisdom, to interpret it for the rest of us. In other words the Bible is just a prelude to the absolute word in the Koran.
Jesus is the "sun of God" who came to teach the people how to worship God as an individual person. To follow Jesus is to incorporate his teachings in your life. That is what it means by eating the bread. The wine is the spirit you need in your life to make the teachings of Jesus a reality. What I find amazing about Christians is that you do not study the history of your religion. If you did then you would easily be able to identify with the belief of Muslims because their were Christians with the same belief. They lost the war with those who favored the trinity concept. Study the Council of Nicea in Rome in the 1400's. Muhammed is the return of Christ. This time he came back to teach the individual how to live in the community of people with different races, religions, countries. It was also the final attempt to get the Jews to follow God. Most of the holy Quran talks about Moses. His name is mentioned more than any other prophet. Also, Jerusalem was intially the most important city in Islam at that time before the change to Mecca. Now it is the third most important city in Islam. Yes, most of the truth in the Bible is hidden and has been either lost or not shared by the Christian leaders. So God had to bring the pure word back to the common man. what I'm telling you, you can research for yourself. Prior to the coming of Islam, Christian leaders were withholding the word of God for themselves and other select individuals. When they did give it to the comon man they told him to see it literally, which lead to the dark ages. Now the oppostie is true. The West has seperated itself from the control of religious authority. While the Muslim world is in the dark ages. The Muslim world is in the dark ages because it denies science due it's hate of the West. They associate Science with the West and do not see how the holy Quran came to resurrect the Sciences. They do not follow their own logic.
Science and religion finally joined together. All people coming under one religious belief...wow, what a wonderful thing...If you're an engineer for the Illuminati.
Evolve me closer to "the Christ" within? Sounds like getting close to a state of ascended mastery. Another token New Age belief.
Has anyone here actually listened to the "Build Yourself an Ark" tapes?!
And the "light" you mention....is that the Light of Jesus Christ?
Tell me, how do you define the "light" you speak of here?
The whole concept of symbolism in the Bible is actually the latest attack on the divinity of God's Word, largely started in the conspiracy community with the help of the plant David Icke, and popular media's recent "fascination" with the fictional story, "The Da Vinci Code".
Icke, obviously a plant to th seasoned veterans of this game, practically preaches the Bible to people, however, completely denies the divinity of Christ come in the flesh.
Does anyone here know how to test to see whether a spirit is from Lucifer, or From Christ?
Tell me more about the sybolism. I want speciffic stories, themes, and events.
And in regards to earning the hub of intellegence...
Man is not saved by faith, not works. In a physical human shell, we do not have full access of this hub, if any at all. We must first choose to believe in the completed work of Jesus Christ, so that we will be accepted into the eternal consciousness that the limitless human soul was originally created for. Then all is revealed. To imagine that connection with this hub is possible while in a physical form contradicts the nature of Truth, which is an abvsolute stretching into infinity. A place that physical humans cannot grasp, nor can our spirits, while connected with the physical.
Man cannot serve two masters. He will love one, and hate the other...
What I find amazing about Christians is that you do not study the history of your religion. If you did then you would easily be able to identify with the belief of Muslims because their were Christians with the same belief.
That shows little knowledge beyond the mainstream of Christian teaching and belief. I am Christian. Why do I not identify with the Muslims? Maybe you should do a little research into Muslim history.
In the Bible, the holy people are the descendants of Isaac, later renamed Israel. God made a covenant with Isaac. The scriptures state that the descendants of Abraham's other son, Ishmael, "Shall be as a wild ass, fighting constantly with his bretheren."
500 - 1000 years LATER, muhammed has his revalation, in which he states that the covenant was actually made with Ishmael, not Isaac.
Which is true? The Original writing, or the one that came after and modified the story?
As a Christian, I believe that Muhammed was a False Prophet. He probably believed in what he saw, however, the spirits that manipulated him had much more forsight. Deception only involves 0.01% deceit mixed with 99.99% truth. But partial truth is still not whole truth.
Tell me, which do you hold as truth? God's covenant with Isaac, or with Ishmael?
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The covenant with Isaac was the only covenant made. A promise was given to Ishmael and only a promise. That promise was fulfilled. On this forum you will find problems. Is it a serious forum? Even our jokes and humor are serious and effective. Good luck to you. We agree with what you have posted.