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Old 03-05-2005, 11:00 AM
Ahmad Ahmad is offline
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Peace all,

I found a chart on the internet that states that Satan is the ruler of this planet along with the "fallen angels", it also mentions that the three main religions and the nation states are just developed by Satan to control the human beings.

This might be true in one case, if God doesn't exist. The conspiracy of Satan and his descendants (the Jinn beings) is detailed in the scriptures and yes indeed the religions and the nation states maybe his tools to control us, however there is no god except God.

Only God rules, He has no partners in His kingship, not Satan, Muhammad, Jesus nor the saints.

The evil doers may impress you with their wealth, and power, in reality they are powerless, they can't even control themselves and that's why Satan controls them.

What will distinguish the real elite from the fake elite is this simple conviction, do you think Satan or his evil followers are actually ruling the world? do you think their money or power can go against God's will?

God created them, their money, their posts and all what they are or have, how could we be that ignorant to think for a minute that they can harm us without God's permission? they will harm none but the guilty who forget God and righteousness, and follow their sinful lusts.

Will you be a winner or a loser? You have the answer, just ask yourself, "what occupies my mind most of the time?", if it is anything or anyone other than God, then you better repent and shift your center back to God before it's too late.

[13:16] Say, "Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?" Say, "GOD." Say, "Why then do you set up besides Him masters who do not possess any power to benefit or harm even themselves?" Say, "Is the blind the same as the seer? Is darkness the same as the light?" Have they found idols besides GOD who created creations similar to His creations, to the point of not distinguishing the two creations? Say, "GOD is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Supreme."


The apparent control of Satan over this dominion was meant for one reason, to distinguish the blind from the seers, the blind bought the idea that Satan rules, as for the seers, they Know that only God rules and thus they will be the ultimate victors.

The illusion of Satan's rule will end very soon beginning with a big event, God willing, on 11.9.2005, for now it's time for God's kingdom to take over.

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Old 03-05-2005, 02:21 PM
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-a child being constantly beaten and raped might have a difficult time with what you just posted.

-a family who has just lost their son/daughter in the forces might have a difficult time with what you just posted.

-a physically challenged person without arms/legs might have a difficult time with what you just posted.

-a person shot and left for dead only because they were an innocent bystander might have a difficult time with what you just posted.

-a mother who just lost her newborn might have a difficult time with what you just posted.

you and i can think of various scenarios. seems to me somewhere in your life there is either abuse of a partner, a child, or other relative, or fellowman----by YOU. you are not a sincere man. i've read some of your posts. like most people in this forum, you are all talk -- just to irritate. you do not say anything with love, but hate. too bad. too bad you're nothing more than a fraud. the evil doers DO have power. you're a jerk, you know that? do you have anything to say for those that suffer? other than only god can do this and god can do that. ditto: you're a jerk.
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Old 03-05-2005, 02:50 PM
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Dear Superstupid,

You are only destroying your own credibility
with your unsubstantiated and viscious personal
attacks against Ahmad's good moral character.
Ahmad has a lot of good and valuable
information to impart and is at a much
higher spiritual level than yourself; like
an analogy of
comparing a back-alley heroin user who lives
in a cardboard box ( that is you ) with a very successful and clean living
entrepreneur and family man
( that would be Ahmad ).
I don't want Ahmad scared away from this
site by a vulgar intellectual midget
and FRAUD calling itself Superstar
when it should call itself Superstupid.
Here is the final, authoritative ruling:
"Superstar is a j*rk".
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:45 PM
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Peace Superstar,

You said: "do you have anything to say for those that suffer?"


Yes i have something to say,

[4:40] GOD does not inflict an atom's weight of injustice. On the contrary, He multiplies the reward manifold for the righteous work, and grants from Him a great recompense.

The same happening may happen to two persons, one will steadfastly persevere, turn to God and maintain his or her righteousness in an unwavering Submission to God's will. The other will reject, rebel and fill the world with screaming and complaining. Which one you think God would recompense?

Now note the startling truth about suffering, for those who will get depressed, who would curse the whole universe for their suffering, who will turn into unfunctional, self hating individuals, who may even commit suicide at the end, they are bringing themselves God's punishment by their own hands!. God says that everything that happens in the Heavens or the earth comes from Him, BUT we are the cause of bad things happening to us because of following Satan, the bringer of misery.

It is a universal law that those who fail to see the good point behind their destiny (whatever it is) and thus turn unappreciative of God, are bringing themselves a self inflicted suffering.

[4:79] Anything good that happens to you is from GOD, and anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and GOD suffices as witness.


Suffering can transform a person's life from being a marginal human being to a succesful, light for all his bretheren. It is up to us to turn this tool into a blessing by turning to God alone to alleviate/transform it, or to get stuck in it, enslaved by Satan in a vicious downward spiral of self-hating, society-hating, unforgivness, self detruction!

Take for example Helen Keller, a profound example from God to all of us,

Excerpt from http://www.afb.org/section.asp?Documentid=1351:

The story of Helen Keller is the story of a child who, at the age of 19 months, suddenly lost her hearing and vision, and who, against overwhelming odds and with a great deal of persistence, grew into a highly intelligent and sensitive woman who wrote, spoke, and labored incessantly for the betterment of others. So powerful a symbol of triumph over adversity did she become that she has a definite place in the history of our time and of times to come.
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And to be more clera, i will try to answer your examples:

1-"-a child being constantly beaten and raped might have a difficult time with what you just posted."

God doesn't burden any soul beyond its means, if this child is to be a righteous person in the future, God will protect him and will not allow suffering beyond his or her threshold. This experience is not traumatic by itself, almost all of us have suffered in some way or another during childhood, some turned to God and drew closer to Him, some turned away from God and chose reconcilation in the creatures (drug abuse, relationships, adultery, work-addiction..etc). If this child accepts, forgives and turn to God for help, all this misery will vanish in a blink of an eye, few take heed though! thus they fall in the trap of Satan and bring more misery upon themselves.

[2:186] When My servants ask you about Me, I am always near. I answer their prayers when they pray to Me. The people shall respond to Me and believe in Me, in order to be guided.


2-"-a family who has just lost their son/daughter in the forces might have a difficult time with what you just posted."

Eventhough this war is obviously unjust, many soldiers are there out of true conviction, some are forced to be there, and for all of them God gives good news. In Quran the age of responsbility is 40, all the soldiers who die before that age go straight to Heaven, a much better place than this miserable world, don't you agree?. It's also a test for their families, a family may reject God's will, scream and hate everybody for their loss, another family may steadfastly persevere, endure the test, ask God for patience and delivery of grief. They would accept God's will, understand that this is possibly the best thing that could have happened to their son,

[2:154] Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of GOD, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.


3-"-a physically challenged person without arms/legs might have a difficult time with what you just posted."

I personally had friends who are blind and armless, yet they were the most happy, succesful i have seen in my life!. Again the same happening can be good or bad, depending on your response, turning to or away from God.


4-"-a person shot and left for dead only because they were an innocent bystander might have a difficult time with what you just posted."


Death is a great blessing for the righteous, but in our limited perception, we see it as a horrendous punishment!. Indeed it's a horrible event for the wicked, the angels will beat them [47:27], asking them to surrender their souls, but they will resist, next they will stay in a continous nightmare to the day of judgment. As for the righteous the angels tell them,

[16:31] The gardens of Eden are reserved for them, wherein rivers flow. They have anything they wish therein. GOD thus rewards the righteous.

[16:32] The angels terminate their lives in a state of righteousness, saying, "Peace be upon you. Enter Paradise (now) as a reward for your works."


The righteous don't actually die, they are transferred momentarily to Heaven like Jesus.


5- "-a mother who just lost her newborn might have a difficult time with what you just posted."


Inded she would have a difficult time if she forgets God at that moment, a righteous woman would remember God, ask Him for patience, and even thanking Him for this chance to remember Him!. A righteous woman, would ponder at the lesson to be learned from that experience, what is the message? is it that she did something wrong that she must repent from, or is it that God saved her from a baby who would have inflicted severe pain on here, or is it that it was not the right time for her to give birth. Oneday she will understand the good point behind this incident, in all cases she must submit, accept and steadfastly persevere if she wants God's recompense.

[3:186] You will certainly be tested, through your money and your lives, and you will hear from those who received the scripture, and from the idol worshipers, a lot of insult. If you steadfastly persevere and lead a righteous life, this will prove the strength of your faith.
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Old 03-06-2005, 12:43 AM
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Ahmed, I enjoy your messages. Keep it up.

We'll have to see about that 11.9 thing though...
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Old 03-06-2005, 01:16 AM
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Who really rules the planet? Remember the story of the Bible where Satan tries to tempt Jesus in the desert? Satan offered Jesus all the nations and riches of the world. Now tell me why would satan offer something he doesn't have? that story alone tells us who owns it all and it ain't the good side.

another interesting story I read is of demonic entities which give orders to world rulers. While we like to talk about politicians and those we see that seem to shape world events, those are only puppets to powers and forces we don't understand.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear Superstupid,

You are only destroying your own credibility
with your unsubstantiated and viscious personal
attacks against Ahmad's good moral character.
Ahmad has a lot of good and valuable
information to impart and is at a much
higher spiritual level than yourself; like
an analogy of
comparing a back-alley heroin user who lives
in a cardboard box ( that is you ) with a very successful and clean living
entrepreneur and family man
( that would be Ahmad ).
I don't want Ahmad scared away from this
site by a vulgar intellectual midget
and FRAUD calling itself Superstar
when it should call itself Superstupid.
Here is the final, authoritative ruling:
"Superstar is a j*rk".
clean cut person here. you people are militant freaks. you all have your addictions and want to keep them, you are of no use in this society. you are not people of God, but of this Satan you all really worship. you can hide and disguise, but you people need help. no wonder the world will go through a NWO. you people need to straighten up and become part of the human race.
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Old 03-07-2005, 06:40 AM
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I understand what you're trying to say Ahmed.

I agree.

Your response was measured.

It's hard for everyone to think and feel that deeply though.

It's like your comment on Iraq...they also must take responsibility for their fate. That does'nt mean i approve of what's happening. That does'nt mean ar'nt moved to tears when a bunch of kids have just lost both parents at a roadblock. It's out of my hands and in theres.

Accepting responsability for what happens to you is the hardest thing to do.

God does not like innocent people.

God wants 'thinking' human beings. When you're innocent you dont have to think.

The NWO loves people who want to stay innocent.

When I started accepting at least part responsabilitiy for the things that happened to me things changed.

Take this for instance...a friend was bashed in town a while back. Basically he was walking down the street and was literally bashed for no reason. He was obviously upset. We all were. After a time I said to him..."you know, I've never been bashed in town on a Saturday night and do you know why?"..."Because I dont go to town when it's full of drunk, drug affected people".

He got the point.

It's not the best example but he had to take responsability for being in a place where bad things could happen.

God works through peoples feelings. By being able to feel you wont need to be knocked unconscious. If you cant feel then fate will use a bigger rock to knock you on the head with.

Denial is a river in Egypt.
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:11 AM
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Peace all,

My point was that it's a fatal mistake to "demonize" Satan. We blame all our misfortunes on him (aka. NWO), when its we who accept his invitations day and night!, actually we make a huge beast of them (him) when they are just a big balloon about to burst.

Alex Jones for example fills the world with screaming and kicking, i wonder why? this is not the right response in face of evil.

Defeat begins when we attribute powers to our enemies, which allows fear to paralyze us. Here on this forum i can feel the subtle fear, the screams and cries of horror, but why? only because we buy the vicious idea that "they" (he) have power.

Only God has power.

The major part of this "NWO" propaganda (excluding the sincere balanced views) is aimed at instilling fear in us.

Don't worry about the conspiracy, nor about the NWO, the batllefield is in your mind/heart, every minute you are answering the question, God or Satan.

Anything that ditsracts you from God (absolute values) is Satan trying to win you over to his side.

Click on a pornography link and you are with the NWO. Smoke a cigarette, drink a beer, lose your consiousness..."the government is spying on me, i better stop visiting this website!" now you will stop because of a bunch of powerless mere mortals!, what about God who is watching your inside? who knows your inner most thoughts, shouldn't you reverence Him? or the NWO?

Give them your time and money by watching their life styles and movies!, don't question your boss, he is your god!, don't give for charity, the NPO's are NWO!, don't eat, the food is poisoned!, burn your money, for it's worthless!

And then what is left? they are stripping us of the last candle of hope, belief in an Almighty God who controls them, their money, their thoughts, and everything.

Are we that stupid to buy this handicapping propaganda? Isn't it better to look for God's messages behind the global events? or to never cross the veil of "the NWO behind everything" ?

God doesn't burden any soul beyond its means, there are two kingdoms on earth functioning now in parallel, both are controlled by God. The kingdom of Satan, with all its chaos, misery and fear, and the kingdom of God, peace, mercy and perfect happiness.

You can switch from one kingdom to another in a split second, how? only by submitting to your Creator alone and asking Him for forgivness from the bottom of your heart, by abandoning all the human-made idols (Jesus, Muhammad, saints, professional religionsists, celebrities), by living deliberately, by controlling your sinful lusts, by standing for your rights, by having no fear except from God, by being really free.

A simple solution, yet the most difficult for the majority!

[27:19] .....Admit me by Your mercy into the company of Your righteous servants."
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Old 03-08-2005, 06:34 AM
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Hi Ahmad, this is a response to your original post. I certainly share the essence of what you are saying, but I believe that Satan has real power on Earth through his influence on our minds.

Let me explain my view.

Those with knowledge have power over the ignorant: that is real power by deception. The only way to nullify this power is to reveal the truth to the ignorant. However, to change the attitude of the masses is a mighty task. To get someone to change their attitudes, first you have to give them some information that is within their latitude of acceptance. Considering that New-world-order theories (or should we call them facts?), are often refuted as paranoid delusions, it is clear that the topic is way beyond the general latitude of acceptance.

If, by some miracle, a benevolent, God fearing, pro-theorist, gained control of the Western media and began a campaign aimed at revealing the truth, it would have to be done incrementally, and over a long period of time. You could think of it a progressing back to the truth.

The problem is, I doubt whether this will happen anytime soon.

How do they get away with it? Simple, we live in a realm of deception. It is possible to deceive people on this Earth and in this universe. You can lie, cheat, steal, and conceal all kinds of things from other people. This is where Satanís power is found: through his ability to deceive you with his rebellious spirit. Everyone is open to deception because of the very nature of our environment.

However, once you know and believe the true knowledge, that is Godís knowledge, you can see through the deceptions of the things that ultimately matter. Whether Israel is going to bomb Iran, or the USA landed on the Moon, is ultimately irrelevant.

Satan does indeed have a very real power over people. He uses people through deception to carry out his rebellious whims. But if you really believe that God exists, you will tap into a much greater power than Satanís deception. Godís power is mightier than Satanís, but Satan gets much more prime time media coverage on Earth.

What do you think Ahmad? (the invitation is open to everyone though)
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