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Old 08-25-2006, 03:03 PM
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Default Why leave the door open to China?


http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=723266&C=commentary

This is only one of the sites expressing concern over the recent acquisition of the IBM PC division by the China-based group.

Remember that China and the Soviets are in collusion against US domestic political and technological interest.

We've witnessed massive techno-attacks originating from Chinese elements, and we're not talking about hacking the local SPD-1 transmissions, either!

The soviets are experts in logistics and materiel supply (thet've been smuggling petrol for years, you know!) so the two together could be the deadliest threat at the vanguard of terror.

So why do we leave the door open and then complain about the chill??? :-o

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Old 08-25-2006, 08:01 PM
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Good to see you here. :-)

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Remember that China and the Soviets are in collusion against US domestic political and technological interest.
BOUNCER...China exists SOLEY because of $50 billion a month invested by the West. MOSTLY from the U.S.

China is being built up as "bogey man". It is still HOPELESSLY inept militarily and ZERO threat to U.S armed forces. No one can take on the U.S.

America must be plunged into civil war and chaos for the set up of a proper Police State and the destruction of the Constitution. From their, as Americans sign up to the military to eat...the U.S will be the "iron fist" in the Globalist velvet glove.

They will blame war in the M.E and high oil prices plus neo-con (5th columnist neo-bolshevik) economic mismanagement for the chaos. The Left will be energised and EXACTLY like Rooseveldts "New Deal" after the bankers imploded the world economy...we will see a run up to WW3.

It's text book.:-)
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Old 08-26-2006, 03:15 PM
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The thought that the US military would be a part of a coup or engage in running the government shows a simplistic viewpoint of the world. While attended the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, this very topic was discussed. All of the officers agreed that such a thing was not impractical but impossible. Simply speaking you couldn't get enough people to go along with such an idea.

The miliary has no interest in running anything or disagreeing with civilian control of the government. We are also quite aware that there are certain orders no military officer would obey from a civilian leadership.

As far as China being a threat. Not yet, but there abilities grow daily. They could cause us great difficulties in Asia if they were of a mind to. Try doing a bit more research next time.
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:44 PM
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The thought that the US military would be a part of a coup or engage in running the government shows a simplistic viewpoint of the world.
No. Any coup would involve the high echelons of the military. Thats not you - Once enough CHAOS in the form of economic collapse is provoked by using the excuse of "Peak Oil", terrorism and neo-bolshevick offshoring of jobs...we will see the military weighing in to restore ORDER.

Where have you been the last 20 years? Notice any Marines in your part of town lately doing ANOTHER restore order execise? :-) Come on! The military is ALL OVER the country doing gun confiscations and running road bloacks. What are you? Blind?

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While attended the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, this very topic was discussed.
Inbetween "Tail Hook" exercises?

Kay Griggs Interview Part 1

Kay Griggs Part 2

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All of the officers agreed that such a thing was not impractical but impossible. Simply speaking you couldn't get enough people to go along with such an idea.
You actually think you matter? The people making the decisions will not be a bunch of 3 star Generals and below, but the Elite of the Pentagon establishment in nice and hard with the Blue Hat Internationalist Elements run by the CFR and other Round Table Groups.

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The miliary has no interest in running anything or disagreeing with civilian control of the government.
You have GOT to be kidding me? Who is the most hated man at the Pentagon? Give you a clue...he likes to crack jokes as American troops die.

The military is INTIMATELY tied into the Establishment Order that run the U.S. Their 450 billion pay cheque ensures an interest into how things are run. Again, i think you have mistaken the commendable views of a bunch of low cut lackeys with the Elite of the Pentagon establishment. When chaos hits the streets...you'll be begging for martial law.

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We are also quite aware that there are certain orders no military officer would obey from a civilian leadership.
Does that include involving yourself in Middle East quagmires? :-)

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As far as China being a threat. Not yet, but there abilities grow daily. They could cause us great difficulties in Asia if they were of a mind to.
Any time the U.S Blue Blood Establishment wants, it can pull the plug on foreign investment and arms sales and China would crash in an allmighty thump. China is nothing more than the bogey man for the day. Asteroid collisions and Super Volcanoes not withsdtanding...also killer bee's. My personal favourite.

China is their to keep the various competing elements of the Pentagon happy. Keep the weapons contracts flowing in. Refer to Thomas Barnetts "The Pentagons New Map"...the ENTIRE U.S Military will be based around 2 parts:

1) "Leviathin" - Comined arms of the airforce, Army and Navy which will SMASH countries who attempt independant development outside the Globalist agenda. The personal "will be young, male, nintendo lovers and slightly pissed off" as Barnett states.

2) "Sys-Admin" - Protected by U.S Marines, this "Policing Force" will maintain order AFTER the smashing is over. These people will be older, multigender, and they will NEVER be coming home.

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Try doing a bit more research next time.
Please do. We were all hoping for some "analysis" of your own. So far we have glib, pat, paternalistic answers.

Lift your game. :-)
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Old 08-27-2006, 09:17 PM
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WELL THE CHINESE LIKE PORK SO THEY AREN'T ALL THAT BAD, BUT WHEN I WAS ON A SUGAR HIGH EARLIER I WROTE THIS ABOUT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY,I SENT IT TO THE UN, TO WIT:
I am writing to express my concerns about the Chinese Communist Party and, more specifically, its adages regarding puerile slubberdegullions. Unless you share my view that we have a number of problems for which the Chinese Communist Party bears most of the responsibility, there's no need for you to hear me further. Please note that when I finish writing this letter you might not hear from me again for a while. I simply don't have enough strength left to name and shame the Chinese Communist Party's janissaries for their antiheroism-oriented acts of wowserism. Nevertheless, the Chinese Communist Party is burdened with a dead weight of the most treasonous conceptions and prejudices. Or, to express that sentiment without all of the emotionally charged lingo, I am tired of hearing or reading that people don't mind having their communities turned into war zones. You know that that is simply not true.

The world is suffering from the Chinese Communist Party's lack of faith in a transcendental truth. I don't think anyone questions that. But did you know that it is an expert at shameless name-dropping? I may be questioning the regnant conventional wisdom by stating this, but maybe the Chinese Communist Party says that human beings should be appraised by the number of things and the amount of money they possess instead of by their internal value and achievements. That's a stupid thing to say. It's like saying that the ancient Egyptians used psychic powers to build the pyramids.

Note that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate description of all people who might be considered refractory ex-cons. It is only a rough indication of some of the Chinese Communist Party's general tendencies. To the Chinese Communist Party's mind, its excuses prevent smallpox. So that means that absolutism is the key to world peace, right? No, not right. The truth is that the Chinese Communist Party's conjectures may have been conceived in idealism, but they quickly degenerated into unconscionable prętorianism. Too many emotions to count raced through my mind when I first realized that the Chinese Communist Party insists that the world's salvation comes from whims, irrationality, and delusions. How can it be so blind? Very easily. Basically, if the Chinese Communist Party thinks that it can make me get fired from my job, then it's barking up the wrong tree. It may seem senseless to say that the Chinese Communist Party's propaganda machine grinds on and on. Nevertheless, the position can be defended.

The Chinese Communist Party's opinion is that we have too much freedom. Of course, opinions are like sphincters: we all have them. So let me tell you my opinion. My opinion is that the Chinese Communist Party is starved for attention. It's that simple. The Chinese Communist Party focuses on feelings rather than facts. Sure, it attempts to twist and distort facts to justify its feelings but that just goes to show that the Chinese Communist Party's helots tend to fall into the mistaken belief that the health effects of secondhand smoke are negligible, mainly because they live inside a the Chinese Communist Party-generated illusion-world and talk only with each other. Contrary to what the Chinese Communist Party would have you believe, we find among narrow and uneducated minds the belief that sin is good for the soul. This belief is due to a basic confusion, which can be cleared up simply by stating that I'm not actually demanding revenge. Nevertheless, I can state with absolute certainty that a central point of the Chinese Communist Party's belief systems is the notion that bad things "just happen" (i.e., they're not caused by the Chinese Communist Party itself). Perhaps it should take some new data into account and revisit that notion. I think it'd find that the really interesting thing about all this is not that its only motivation is a stupid attachment to wealth and power. The interesting thing is that I hate it when people get their facts thoroughly wrong. For instance, whenever I hear some corporate fat cat make noises about how some people deserve to feel safe while others do not, I can't help but think that the Chinese Communist Party's companions can conceive of nothing but immoral defenses of its ruthless memoranda. Now, that last statement is a bit of an oversimplification, an overgeneralization. But it is nevertheless substantially true.

I am now in a position to define what I mean when I say that one of the incompetent remarks we often hear from the Chinese Communist Party is that it is cunctipotent. What I mean is that it is pointless to fret about the damage already caused by the Chinese Communist Party's inerudite rejoinders. The past cannot be changed. We must cope with the present if we hope to affect our future and deal with the Chinese Communist Party appropriately. We will need to use diverse skills and tactics if we are to exemplify the principles of honor, duty, loyalty, and courage. This is the flaw in the Chinese Communist Party's ploys. It doesn't understand that it is trying hard to convince a substantial number of judgmental fault-finders to resort to underhanded tactics. It presumably believes that the "hundredth-monkey phenomenon" will spontaneously incite what I call nit-picky freaks of nature to behave likewise. The reality, however, is that the purpose of this letter is far greater than to prove to you how covinous and foul the Chinese Communist Party has become. The purpose of this letter is to get you to start thinking for yourself, to start thinking about how like a verbal magician, it knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. A final word: I must protest the Chinese Communist Party's use of malicious heretics to reduce social and cultural awareness to a dictated set of guidelines to follow.
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Old 08-28-2006, 04:47 AM
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In response to truebeliever's rahter disjointed response to my post:

I am not here to play games. I have come here to clear up misunderstanding in what it possible and more importantly what is not possible in the military. A coup or a military dictatorship is not possible.

The reason is simple. Suppose some 4 star general in the Pentagon issues some order to the divsiion commander of the 82nd Airborne out of Fort Bragg to deploy his troops to New York City. The purpose would be control of the city.

First off because of Posse Commitatus, the order would be refused. Now what does the four star general do now? Occupy New York by himself? Second, no order like this would be carried out by the lower ranking officers in the 82nd Airborne even if their division commander ordered it.

Second, you would have to have the cooperation of the civilian populace to get them to go along with it. The 82nd Airborne can field a maximum of about 8000 troops to take over a city and area of 10,000,000. Just not practical.

Third, POTUS would immeditately counter-mand such an illegal order and fire the offending general who gave it.

Forth, even if it could be done. What the hell is the military supposed to do once they occupy New York? Not quite enough of them to fix potholes and make sure the garbage is picked up on time now is there?

Don't challenge me son on what the military is capable of again. Your game is filled with bullshit as are you.
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