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Old 10-16-2006, 05:11 PM
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Where are the Ten Lost Tribes?
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Where are the Ten Lost Tribes?

Go to the link for pcs;
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/losttribes3.html#japan
Illustration of boat Japanese illustration depicting the raft on which the ancient Israelites crossed over to Japan.
Japan

Daber: in Hebrew, to speak.
Daberu: Japanese for chatting.

Goi: a non-Hebrew or foreigner.
Gai'Jeen: prefix for a foreigner, a non-Japanese.

Kor: cold in Hebrew.
Koru: to freeze in Japanese.

Knesset: Parliament in Hebrew.
Kensei: Constitutional government in Japanese.

These are among the thousands of words and names of places with no real etymological meaning in Japanese. And they all correspond with Hebrew words. Even the Kings have similar names. The first known king of Japan, who was named Osee, ruled around 730 BC. This king has been identified with the last king of Israel, Hoshea, who died around the same time, at the time of the Assyrian exile of the ten tribes from Israel. The holy Japanese shinto temple strongly recalls the ancient holy Isrealite temple, which housed a holy of holies section and several gates. Several artifacts in Japan have been traced to Assyrian and Jewish sources, among them, a well in Koryugi with the words "well of Israel" inscribed on its side.

It has also been suggested that the carts of Otsu and Kyoto are of ancient biblical origin, as they are different from any others in Japan. Might the ancient Israelites and their wives and children have been conveyed to Japan in these carts? Among the Samurai sect, there is a tradition that their ancient ancestors came to Japan from western Asia around 660 BC.The name 'Samurai' recalls 'Samaria'. And to which tribe do the Japanese belong? There are those who claim that the Mikado, the Japanese emperor, is a descendant of the Hebrew tribe of Gad. 'Mikado' recalls the Hebrew word for 'his majesty the king,' 'Malchuto'.
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Ethiopian women Ethiopian women with qita, unleavened bread baked for passover.
Beta Israel-Ethiopia

In the latter part of the twelfth century, a legend appeared which persisted for several centuries and reached Egypt, Palestine and Europe. According to this legend, a Christian priest named Prester John ruled as monarch over a vast and wealthy Christian Empire. According to many traditions, Ethiopia was the land of the powerful Prester John's kingdom, as well as the home of the ten lost tribes. Persistent rumor had it that these African Israelite kingdoms were at constant war with Prester John, and that their armies were advancing on Rome.

Who are these African-Jewish tribesmen so central to the Prester John legend? These are the Ethiopian Jews known both as Falashas, the Amharic word for landless, wandering Jews, and as Beta Israel, the house of Israel. In Ethiopia, they engaged primarily in agriculture, but were known also for their exquisite crafts and jewelry. Today, most of the Beta Israel live in the state of Israel. In the 1970's and 80's, the Israeli government airlifted thousands of Ethiopian Jews to Israel, rescuing them from political and economic distress.

According to one tradition, the Ethiopian Jews are the descendants of one of the ten tribes, as their religion is an ancient form of biblical Judaism. Their religious practices are prescribed by the Orit, the Torah translated into their Gez dialect. They possess none of the post-biblical laws. Over the centuries, the Beta Israel have been connected with the tribe of Dan. This association has eased the process of their return to the state of Israel in recent times.
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Torrance The Scottish missionary Rev. Thomas Torrance in China, 1920s.
Torrance claimed the Chiang-Min of West Szechuan were descendants of the ancient Israelites.
Chiang-Min China

"Behold, These are coming from afar. These from the north and the west and these from the land of Sinim." This prophecy, spoken by Isaiah, promised the return of Lost Israelites from all corners of the Earth and from Sinim. Interestingly, Sinim is the Hebrew word for China. In fort-like villages in the high mountain ranges on the Chinese-Tibetan border live the Chiang-Min of West Szechuan. It has been claimed that the Chiang-Min are descendants of the ancient Israelites who arrived in China several hundred years before Christ.

The missionary Torrance, who visited Cheng-du in the early party of this century, insisted that the Chiang-Min strongly resemble the Israelite branch of the Semitic race. He observed that several of their customs were reminiscent of ancient Israelite tradition. Said Torrance: "The plough the Chiang use is similar to the ancient Israelite plough and is drawn by two oxen, never by an ox and an ass. This in accordance with the Biblical stipulation: 'You shall not plough with an ox and ass together.'" The Chaing-Min believe in one God. During "times of calamity or acute distress," writes Torrance, "they issue a moan or cry which sounds like 'Yawei', suggestive of the biblical name of God. The Scottish missionary also claims that the Chinese conception of Sacrifice came from the ancient Israelites.

Finally, Chiang-Min priests, like the ancient Israelite priests, wear girdles to bind their robes, and bear a sacred rod shaped like a serpent, reminiscent of the brass serpent fashioned by Moses in the wilderness.



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Old 12-15-2006, 10:07 PM
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Judah and Israel, were just two of the twelve brothers, who got scattered and mixed around the world, many times over.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT. Wrong answer. Lovely parting gifts.

Israel was the whole of all of them. It wasn't a "tribe".

Maybe Tsarion fans will fall for your "Japanese Jews" but I think most people here will simply :funny: at it. Rightly so.

Assyrians conquered the northern 10 of the tribes, leaving Judah and Benjamin. In those days what a nation would typically do after the conquest of another nation was:

1. Kill all the adult men.
2. Enslave all the women and children.
3. Take possession of all else.

So the most likely fate of the 10 northern tribes was just that: the men got slaughtered, the women became slaves, and the children were raised to be slaves for the rest of their days. After a few generations of rape by the Assyrian masters, not a whole lot of "pure" Israelite DNA would be left of them. And by modern times, completely diluted to a meaningless blip.

The hilarious thing about the "10 lost tribes" muffins as they spout out there is that they have to give you, as a premise, that the Assyrians would just "let them go" after winning the war.

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Again Ciggy, you're just repeating the "Elitists" propaganda, that isn't actually in The Bible. The half baked and incomplete stories, re-told but not read from, The Multi layered histories actually written in it. Line upon line, here a little, there a little. And again you know it, yet you lie.

Yes there are stronger groups and gatherings of different family lines, fullfilling different prophisied rolls, but the individuals in each group, are what count. Half of my genetic material, comes from those early "slaves", the Slavs, and the other half from the branch that grew strong in the Urals.

I was taught our peoples history, from our perspective, as a child. I don't have a purely Anglo view history, I look for the 'ignored bits', and then (no suprise to me "now") find them in The Bible. Including (among them all) the roll of Australian Aboriginals, THE most ignored peoples of history. For which their is a "diabolical" reason.

But we all have a mixing of blood to some degree, as you acknowledge in the keeping of women, when different groups wared against and raided. And the peoples who just plain up and moved in with others.

The lies Ciggy's repeating, are just some of the many used over generations (by "them"), to make people too angry to read The Bible with "respectfull, OPEN eyes".

It's easy to do (only see nonsence) when you compress the keys of the whole history of all mankind, into one short time and place, which The Bible doesn't do, so any attempt to make it, also makes a nonsence of what it's actually saying. "The" intention of "their" plan.

Line upon line, here a little there a little, it goes on through history, and that's how it says to read it, yet the false, evil shepherds lie, and say they've "pegged it all", in the wrong times and places, and tell you to take "their word" as gosple, which again The Bible tells us not to, but study for ourselves.

I just got an offer of a free 'study' Bible from one of those American false Christian churches. Great, hard covered book, with lots of "explanations", but that's just it, it "explains" it all in a Middle Eastern context, yet again spreading the lie and confussion that comes with it.

Ciggy's disresect for Ancient Peoples Oral History, is a refection of his disrespect for truth, that isn't hidden, but deliberately ignored, as God said would happen, by those who choose to serve The father of The Lie.

Yes, when it comes to the modern postion of the Empire on which the Sun Never Set, and it's Powerfull Brother (Ephraim and Manasseh) you can see their roll being played out in our time. Still, belonging to these peoples, is not a free pass (they have duties, putting pride above them, is also part of the prophesied disobedience), but a reminder that God didn't lie.

That "straight as an arrow", "successfull" nature of the Assyrian blood can be seen playing out their Kingly roll over Ephraim as prophesied, in their current dragging us all to war.

Modern Israel, is NOT the promised land of The Bible (which many Jews have always said, but been drowned out by Zionist propaganda), but you can't see that if you don't try to read it as all going on in the Middle East.

So why doesn't Ciggy want folk to understand we all come from rightious stock, and can all claim our Holy Inheritance in God's re-born, resurrected Family?

Oh, missed a bit; Israel is both the one line brother's line and the name for the whole. Line upon line, here a little there a little. As it says to read it.
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Ancient Chinese Language Supports Creation

One of the primary characteristics which separates human behavior from animals is the ability to transfer abstract concepts to another human via written language.
The Bible teaches that this ability came directly from a creator God and states that the vastly different languages of the world are a result of the confusion of one original language during an event known as the tower of Babel.
Our English word babble (meaning gibberish, chatter, nonsense) has it roots in this event. If this event was a factual, historical happening, there would be clues in ancient writing for such important events such as the creation of man, the fall of man, the existence of a creator (God) and a deceiver (Satan), the world wide flood, and the dispersion of man (at the tower of Babel).

Knowledge of all of these events can be found not just in the Bible but through the ancient writing of people throughout the world. One of the more interesting clues can be found within the very characters of the ancient Chinese letter symbols. Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism dominate the religious beliefs of China today but 2000 years before the appearance of any of these religious beliefs the ancient Chinese served a single creator god known as "Shang Ti".

Ancient Chinese writing consisted of a series of word pictures or pictographs, which combined simpler features to express an idea or concept. The symbol for Shang Ti (God) is a combination of the symbol for emperor and the symbol for heaven (or above).

Thus, the original God worshiped by the Chinese was a single heavenly emperor (not a plurality of many gods).

The Bible describes the creation of man as God having formed him from the dust of the ground and breathed into him the breath of life. The Chinese symbol for create is a combination of person (or breath), dust, walking, and alive.

Thus, to create is to bring a person from dust to life and have it walk.

The Bible describes the devil as the great deceiver who first tempted mankind during a private conversation among the trees of the Garden of Eden. The Chinese symbol for Devil is a combination of alive, man, garden, and secret {i.e. something alive tells man a secret in a garden}. Even more revealing is the symbol for tempter. This symbol adds devil to trees and cover.

Thus, the great tempter is a devil telling man a secret under trees.

The Bible describes a world wide flood catastrophe in which all human life with the exception of eight individuals on a floating vessel were destroyed. The Chinese symbol for boat is vessel, eight, and people.

Thus, a boat is eight people onboard of a vessel!

The Bible describes that man was told to spread out over the earth after the worldwide flood yet he rebelled and built a tower to his own glory. God ended this rebellion by confusing man's languages so that they set out and journeyed across the globe in different language groups. Interestingly the Chinese chose to use the identical symbol for confusion and rebellion...a combination of tongue and right leg (or journey).

Thus, to confuse is to set out on a journey with a new tongue (or language).

Many more examples can be found in an excellent book by C.H. Kang and Ethel Nelson called The Discovery of Genesis.
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Update from Yemen: Translations.
http://www.viewzone.com/expo2002.html

In 2002, John McGovern, busy documenting the First Tongue in Australia, located pictures of inscriptions from the what is believed to be The Queen of Sheba's archaeological site in Yemen. The language on the wall, although stylized into a font, appears to be First Tongue. Click HERE to see a recently uncovered panel and our attempt at a meaningful translation. Additional translations of a stone, partially buried in the sand and unexcavated, are attempted HERE.

We suggest that this ancient alphabet was used much as Latin inscriptions and Roman Numerals are used on contemporary dedication plaques. A dead language never changes and is therefore constant through time.


SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Most recently, Viewzone received photographs from a team in Australia who depicted similar petroglyphs of a much older date (i.e. in excess of 1800 B.C.) These were examined and translations of the material proved that it originated with the same root culture and ascribed to the same rules of grammar and symbols.

Translation of these Australian panels, a style known locally as Panaramitee Tradition, has been completed but the complete and the results have been successful. We provide some examples here.

The Australian Petroglyphs (2000) #1
The Australian Petroglyphs (2000) #2
Australian Petroglyphs (2001) #3
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After 5,000 years Australia's Amazing Hieroglyphs still struggle for recognition !

Egyptian hieroglyphs found in New South Wales:

The hieroglyphs tell the tale of early Egyptian explorers, injured and stranded, in ancient Australia. The discovery centres around a most unusual set of rock carvings found in the National Park forest of the Hunter Valley, 100 km north of Sydney.

The enigmatic carvings have been part of the local folklore of the area for nearly a century with reports of people who sighted them as far back as the early 1900's.

The site was secretly visited by families "in the know" in the 1950's and fell back into local mythology for a couple of decades until it was accidentally rediscovered by a man looking for his lost dog.

The carvings are in a rock cleft, a large block of split sandstone on a cliff-face that has created a small chasm or "chamber" of two flat stone walls facing each other that widens out from two to four metres and is covered in by a huge flat rock as a "roof" at the narrow end.

The cleft is most cave-like and only accessible by a small rock chute from above or below, well disguised from the average bush-walker.

When you first come up the rock chute and climb into the stone hallway you are immediately confronted by a number of worn carvings that are obviously ancient Egyptian symbols. These are certainly not your average Aboriginal animal carvings, but something clearly alien in the Australian bush setting.

There are at least 250 hieroglyphs.

At the end of the chamber, protected by the remaining section of stone roof, is a remarkable third-life sized carving of the ancient Egyptian god "Anubis", the Judge of the Dead !

The hieroglyphs were extremely ancient, in the archaic style of the early dynasties.

This archaic style is very little known and untranslatable by most Egyptologists who are all trained to read Middle Egyptian upward.

The classic Egyptian dictionaries only handle Middle Egyptian, and there are few people in the world who can read and translate the early formative style.

Because the old style contains early forms of glyphs that correlate with archaic Phoenician and Sumerian sources one can see how the university researchers who saw them could so easily have thought them to be bizarre and ill-conceived forgeries.

The ageing Egyptologist Ray Johnson, who had translated extremely ancient texts for the Museum of Antiquities in Cairo eventually was successful in documenting and translating the two facing walls of Egyptian characters - which stemmed from the Third Dynasty.

The rock walls chronicle a tragic saga of ancient explorers shipwrecked in a strange and hostile land, and the untimely death of their royal leader, "Lord Djes-eb".

A group of three cartouches (framed clusters of glyphs) record the name of "RA-JEDEF" as reigning King of the Upper and Lower Nile, and son of "KHUFU" who, in turn, is son of the King "SNEFERU".

This dates the expedition just after the reign of King Khufu (known in the Greek as "Cheops" reputed builder of the Great Pyramid) somewhere between 1779 and 2748 BC.

Lord Djes-eb may have actually been one of the sons of the Pharaoh Ra Djedef, who reigned after Khufu.

The hieroglyphic text was apparently written under the instruction of a ship's captain or similar, with the corner glyph on the wall displaying the title of a high official or chief priest.

The scribe is "speaking for his Highness, the Prince, from this wretched place where we were carried by ship."

The expedition's leader, as mentioned before is described in the inscriptions as the King's son, "Lord Djes-eb", who came to grief a long way from home.

The hieroglyphics sketch his journey and his tragic demise:

"For two seasons he made his way westward, weary, but strong to the end.

Always praying, joyful, and smiting insects. He, the servant of God, said God brought the insects.

Have gone around hills and deserts, in wind and rain, with no lakes at hand.

He was killed while carrying the Golden Falcon Standard up front in a foreign land, crossing mountains, desert and water along the way.

He, who died before, is here laid to rest.

May he have life everlasting. He is never again to stand beside the waters of the Sacred Mer. MER meaning "love".

There was a moat around the pyramid called the "waters of Mer".

The second facing wall, which was much more seriously eroded, details the tragedy further.

This wall begins with the badly eroded glyph of a snake (Heft), with a glyph of jaws (to bite) and the symbol for 'twice'.

The snake bit twice.

Those followers of the diving Lord "KHUFU", mighty one of Lower Egypt, Lord of the Two Adzes, not all shall return.

We must go forward and not look back.

All the creek and river beds are dry. Our boat is damaged and tied up with rope.

Death was caused by snake.

We gave egg-yolk from the medicine-chest and prayed to AMEN, the Hidden One, for he was struck twice."

Burial rituals, prayers and preparations are described.

"We walled in the side entrance to the chamber with stones from all around.

We aligned the chamber with the Western Heavens."

The three doors of eternity were connected to the rear end of the royal tomb and sealed in.

We placed beside it a vessel, the holy offering, should he awaken from the tomb.

Separated from home is the Royal body and all others.

The extraordinary 5,000 year-old story of the death and burial of "Lord Djes-eb" one of the sons of the Pharaoh Ra Djedef.

Visual observation of the site makes it obvious that the very worn carvings exposed to the coastal weather would have to be several centuries to a thousand years old at least.

When first found the site was completely overgrown with thick vegetation and filled in with smashed rock and a much higher soil line.

A number of excavation attempts by interested parties have not turned up any artefacts or bodies but sophisticated and expensive laser scanning techniques have not been applied.

There is significant evidence that the ancients were well aware of the Great South land.

There were both Sumerian and Mayan traditions of a "lost motherland" in the Pacific.

Australia appears under the name of "Antoecie" on the famous spherical world map of Crates of Mallos, even appearing on the Greek map of Eratosthenese in 239 BC
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It seems fairly certain that the maritime civilisations of antiquity were quite capable of extensive ocean voyages.

Particularly the early Egyptians, as evidenced by Giza's remarkable "Tomb of the Boat".

In the 1950's, a streamlined 4,500 year old hundred foot, ocean going vessel was excavated from right next to the Great Pyramid.

In 1991 an entire fleet of even older boats was found buried in the desert at Abydos in Upper Egypt.

According to Cairo Times, in 1982, archaeologists working at Fayum, near the Siwa Oasis uncovered fossils of kangaroos and other Australian marsupials.

And there's also the strange set of golded boomerangs discovered by Prof. Carter in the tomb of Tutankhamen in 1922
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Ciggy and Synergy, there are countless versions of your "opinions", for the reason that every time they're shown as nonsence, details get fiddled with, to keep the lies alive a little longer.

No matter how hard you try, you can't swap the consistantcy of The Bible and it's worth, for the inconsistant oceans of red herrings and tripe, Anti-Christians throw at it.

Mohamed wasn't even born untill nearly 250 after the council of Nicea, when you Anti-Christians love to say, the Illuminati/Power Elite set up Christianity to con mankind, yet you won't even consider Islam being just another one of their very many "bastard children". That sounds racist, bigotted, hypocritical, close minded, "judgemental" and just plain stupid.

And please, don't go into your, Catholic is Christian, lies.
Rome, just as the Pharisees and countless others before, did counterfeit God's messages to mankind, but none well enough to kill it.

What now has the name Christian, was around before Jesus, before Moses and before Abraham. So why do you give more respect to a religion that had 250 years of The Bible, wisdom it contains and success it was having, to steal from, and truely corupt?

There, I answered that one for you. You love anything that corupts God's Word.

I've been trying to show that no one agrees 100% on the history of mankind, yet many facts are still ignored while many disproven 'bad guesses' are still being taught as fact.

The people God scattered all around the world, weren't all White 'Jews', but all the 'types' the family contained, black, white, smooth, hairy and ginger.

Now Jacob/Israel went to the land of the Orientals and found a cousin to fall in love with. Her father's name means "white". But in the early life of recessive 'white' genes, white children would have been in minority, yet back then, even having a hairy ginger pop up, didn't seem to freak parents out like they do today.

Whereas "cultural discrimination" always seems to have been with us, "colour discrimination" seems to have taken a long time to take off and came from man, not God.

Whiteness is genetic devolution, yet God did choose white people to represent His Family too. This just tells me God wants us to know our physical form, already dying at birth, is of no consequence to our character, that God wants to return to man's original, radiant form.

Archeological, linguistic and time/culture anomolies, along with oral histories of peoples from ALL continants, keep supporting Genesis, and that's only with what hasn't been destroyed, hidden and reburied.

This indicates to me, that there is a KNOWN "Secret", countless have been killed to keep.

Now with all the "Great" cultures openly flouting God's laws, at the times of their falls, yet a branch or twig always rising again to declare, "This time, we know how to save mankind! We've been Illuminated!", it would be a pretty safe bet that "They" KNOW, man can't save mankind. So, how powerless would the Power Elite become overnight, if we all woke up to that fact.

I'd say that would be THE secret "They" would justify generations of murders, tortures, racial hatred and genocide, to keep secret. Because "They" do hate God and all His children, of the ONE, HUMAN 'race'.

Oh, and just a little side note; could those weird, long, miss-shaped skull, people, along with other odd, early skeletons, have been the irredeemably evil, pre-flood people?

Could Ham have missed his old pre-flood buddies, who didn't make him feel bad when he was, and his embelished reminiscances, inspired those 'fish head gods' depicted in his family line?
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