Are the Masons evil?

[stompk]

I believe the majority of people in masonry get involved for friendship and belonging to a fraternal organization.

But, I feel that the Mason's are a tool for the takeover by Baphomet.

First, one must be introduced to a belief that the God of Abraham, Moses, Noah, Jesus, you and I, is not the truth.

They draw people away from God and towards Baphomet.

Why do you think there are no windows in Masonic Temples?

People like Albert Pike, Aleister Crowley have influenced the "craft" into a tool of the son of Satan, Baphomet.

Do I think they are sacrificing children?
I don't know for sure, but they seem to
concentrate on childrens hospitals in charities.

And much good can come out of them. But they are masking a much more sinister operation, IMO.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/v/KIZGYlT1PEU&rel
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/djr88iv1FmQ&rel
Notice how the big guy comes out to intimidate them. He get's turned around by their sincere and polite questioning.

You see, the Masons are the suckers on the tentacles of the Octopus.

[Shadow]

Are you refering to Temoh Bap?

[Delta]

Do you have any proof of your allegations?

[stompk]

Originally Posted by Delta

Do you have any proof of your allegations?

Standard issue response.

I don't need proof. I simply plant the seed.

[Delta]

Your planting has failed then!

[stompk]

Condi Rice, keeper of the great seal, has gone to great lengths to dispell the conspiracies surrounding the symbolism of the seal, and it's connections to Freemasonry.

The keepers of the Great Seal of the United States, the familiar emblem on the back of the $1 bill, want you to know what it is not. It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country, it has nothing to do with the occult, and it does not contain clues to a fabulous hidden treasure.

Source: Great Seal secrets revealed! - Yahoo! News

That was awfully nice of them to come out of the closet and explain.

Thing their not watching these conspiracy forums?

Huh Delta, huh Shadow?

[Morty]

Evil? No, far from it.

The idea of Mason being evil, in with the devil, comes from christianity. To find a silly excuse to close down these freethinkers, they made people belive they were in with the devil.

Most masonic temples have tours, go on one. You wont be able to see everything, but pretty much every room is covered.

No windows? Well, look around. How many temples have windows? How many churches have windows? By that, I mean windows you can look inside without risking braking your neck. Windows are high up etc. etc. There is also the mystical aspect of it, and keeping the rituals a secret etc. etc. Most rituals are today well known, so there is really no secrets.

The masonic orders have no religion, even if the have both the bible and the koran. Most places have a prayer room, were these book lay repectfully, and were those who feel like prayer can do so. Except from that, I know that some use the bible to swear to uphold the brotherhood.

I would argue that freemasonic teaching is religion, maybe one of the better, but with a strong focus on characterbuilding. You learn to respect all sorts of people, you feel welcomed in a group and you learn respect of symbolic rituals. The rituals themselfs are there to read as you want, they dont have one simple meaning and no preacher fill your head with dogmas. And there is the difference of masons and other religions, no dogmas.

The pentagram? Well, what is the pentagram but a christian invention. Lucifer is older then christianity, meaning light bearer or son of dawn. In Roman astrology its Venus, the morning star, shining brightest before the sun rises. What is the sun? It is God, and they just had to trow Lucifer out of the sky to make room for "thau shalt not have more then bla bla bla".

If there is something smelly and shadowy about it, its christianity with its history. Even Hitler chased down the masons, and many ended their life in prison camps. At worst its a boysclub, that sometimes can be used for the wrong things, like using your "brother" for private interests and such. It used to be big amongst the powers that be, politicans and such, but have lost its spunk over the years. But dont come and tell me that priests, good christians, muslims, hindu or what ever never spun webs for their own good?

[stompk]

Hitler was a Mason for a period. Why would he chase them down, to kill them. Maybe to keep his secrets quiet. Typical Masonic move. Not above killing, to keep their secrets.

Take Delta for example. This is a conspiracy forum.

Read Deltas posts.
http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/sear...?searchid=4886

They are against every conspiracy.

Maybe you Masons should find a forum that is more approving of your secret satonic practices.

You will not find any love of Mason from me.

Infact, I am THE masons enemy.

I work for Jesus.

[stompk]

And don't call me a Christian, cause I don't like most of them either.

[Morty]

When it comes to Hitler, your thinking about the Thule Society "Study Group for Germanic Antiquity". But he never was a member, he got money from them to do spread his politics. Some of the fairytales of the clean race up north, might have come out of this gang. Thule being the islands/land up north, like england, iceland and scandinavia.

Hitler was never a mason, and he didnt kill masons to keep a secret. You base this on what? In his book Mein Kampf you can read:"Freemasonry, which has succumbed to him -the jew- completely, he has an excellent instrument with which to fight for his aims and put them across. The governing circles and the higher strata of the political and economic bourgeoisie are brought into his nets by the strings of Freemasonry, and never need to suspect what is happening." He killed them caus they were part of the jewish conspiracy.

The sad thing is how you and Hitler share views, I bet you never thought about it. I know you dont wanna kill jews, but this is in fact a long old christian view that has become indoctrinated into us humans. The jews killed Jesus, this started as early as when the first christian Roman emperor Constantine (285-337 CE) about it. Hitler was a christian, he got his anti-jewish ideas from christian society. Martin Luther, the father of protestantism, was a crazy old fart who belived he saw the devil and witches do magic. By the way, when he wanted to chase the devil away. He put his ass up in the air and farted! Anyway, Luther had a tenpoint plan to get rid of the jewish problem.

I am not a mason, nor will I never be. I am, like you, interested in it. To take the conclusion that I am a mason, just because I dont fear them and bite into a christian paranoia, is far from being a mason. There is no logic to your conclusion, non at all.

I have some questions to you, if you are not a christian, were have you learned about Jesus?

Second, from were have you learned that masons are evil? A church? A webpage? A person?

Third, have you ever been inside a masonic hall/temple?

I hope you answer with truth, being a beliver in Jesus and all.