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Old 04-26-2005, 04:12 PM
JohnnyFuctup JohnnyFuctup is offline
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Hi all,

I was never one to buy into conspiracy theories. But recently I've took an interest in Neuro-Linguistic Programming, largely due to the brilliant UK "pshychological magician" Derren Brown. What I've noticed since is pretty scary, but now I'm aware of it, practically every news broadcast, news story and even episodes of Simpsons are littered with very specific subliminals.

The worst I've seen so far is FOX. FOX News is the most unbelievably biased propaganda network I have ever seen, and that's not including the series 4 of the show 24 being funndamentally anti-Islamic and making the Patriot Act look like a good idea, and as I mentioned above, The Simpsons, for blatently promoting Republican policies and dressing it up loosely as irony.

This awakening has spurred me on to try and do something about it, including setting up a site to put down my views and findings now I'm able to see this stuff for what it is. The address is http://www.johnnyfuctup.com, and any feedback or opinons would be much appreciated.

Finding this forum it would be great to be part of this community and learn more about other peoples views on NWOs, mind-control and other conspiracy theories (a term I dislike using as I feel that the term "conspiracy theory" is government NLP labeling used to take credibility from something that would otherwise be called a "suspicion" or an "accusation")

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Johnny

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Old 04-26-2005, 08:01 PM
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Damn right you fucked up, Johnny! By lending any credibility to David Icke, you just lost yours, buddy. :-P int: :evil: :-o ops: 8-) :hammer: As for propaganda on television, dude! It's no-brainer! :-P
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:15 PM
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Hey Johnny, I apologize for being a ruthless prick. After all, that was only your first post here. But you left yourself wide open, man. You're most welcome to come back and bullshit about whatever you want. Keep in mind though, that David Icke is a red herring and does a great disservice to those putting out truth like Alex Jones or Paul Watson. :-P
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Old 04-26-2005, 09:05 PM
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First you take over my trashing role and now you try to usurp my cheif abuser role!

Enoughs enough NOHOPE!

Dear Johnny,

Please do not live up to the name of your web site.

David Icke is a dickhead, a wanker par excellance who needs to pull his head out of his reptillian arse and have a holiday.

David Icke is borderline loon...end of story. Icke claimed to be Jesus christ not to long ago on the telly. He has had a "mystical experience" and has yet to regain mother Earth.

There is a plethora of reasonable websites offering reasonable analysis without giving this toss one bit of press which he does'nt deserve.

I blame the 290 days of rain in England for this phenomena.

Remember everyone!!!!! "Infinite Love Is The Only Truth"!!!!! Oh yes...well in that case Dave old son...you can tootle off and retire...all's just an illusion right?

The guy is full of it...take him off your bookmark.
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:15 AM
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BTW J,

I see you are of the L persuasion...

Forget taxing rich or taxing poor...dismantle the central banking system and put monetary policy back in the hands of the people.

There will then be no need to tax anyone and we'll all live together happily ever after.

Plus..."Dismantling Nooklar Bombs"...no way.

They killed 100,000 people in one night in Tokyo with a few bombs and alot of incinderies.

I'll take the Nook threat over certain death by some other means any day.

We should thank God every day for the Nooks.

It's keeping everyone back in their boxes quite nicely till we've all realised who the enemy is.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:27 AM
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Hmmm, I find that a little unfair.

I don't buy into the whole izard thing, I just find the ramifications of how rigid belief systems may close you off from looking into anything that may be conventionally be thought of as not possible, and it is safer to accept things as remote possibilities than impossibilities so as not to leave yourself open to manipulation by the government.

What is worse? People taking an interest in an eccentric (or loon, if you think so) public speaker and author that sets them on the road to waking up to this stuff, or remaining sheep taking every word from the government as truth and cheering on war after war in the Middle East, and skipping to the front of the queue for microchip implants so they don't need to carry house keys or flip a light switch.

The difference between David Icke and someone like Noam Chomsky is that he is a charasmatic and energetic speaker, captures the imaginations of people, and then they can set off on their own quests for the truth. I've seen Chomsky talk and it's very hard to keep your concentration, despite the interesting subject he talks about.

Only the truly gullable would hang on his every word Icke says, and accept fully that the government are reptilian aliens, but as a mainstream and pop culture introduction to things that everyone should be learning about I think he's helping wake people up to New World Orders and an Orwellian future society.

I've pointed out that any references to lizards on my site are purely methaphorical, and in itself is even poking a bit of fun at the concept to an extent.

You might say he's a lunatic, but for anyone who is into spiritualism he does speak a lot of sense. If you don't believe in spiritulism that is fine but to blazenly declare that anyone who says "despite what you think about his lizard stuff, this guy has a lot of interesting and insightful things to say" has no credibility is being very narrow minded for a regular in a conspiracy forum.

Initially I thought it might be a ploy to sell books, but it is clear he believes what he says. Maybe he's wrong, but he's doing what he's doing becasue he wants people to knwo what he considers truth. If he's a victim of misinformation without knowing it, is that not those who fed him that misinformation that are to blame?

...and I hope the Nuke remarks were attempts at irony.

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Old 04-27-2005, 09:44 AM
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From your site...
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Who are these lizards anyway?

This site is dedicated to opening the eyes of the people to a terrible truth-- That this entire planet, and everyone on it, is ruled by lizards.

What?! I hear you say. Lizards? Yes, lizards.

Do I literally mean lizards? Green scaly no-good reptilians?

Not at all... well, possibly.

Any reference to lizards or reptiles on this site can be interpreted two equally valid ways.

a) A corrupt man or woman that operates within a position of elevated power and knowledge within a hierarchy, who compulsively lies to those lower in that hierarchy in order to progress their agenda for world domination.

b) A reptilian being in the guise of a human, that operates within a position of elevated power and knowledge within a hierarchy, who compulsively lies to those lower in that hierarchy in order to progress their agenda for world domination.
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You'll find the "phenothyazine" family of antipsychotics work well.

It will make you impodent in the long run and you'll suffer the extrapyramidal side effects (erratic gate etc...) but hey...it'll keep the lizard visions at bay...
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:00 AM
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How about the next few lines where I say his evidence is circumstantial and anecdotal? Don't want to post that one, do you?

This is why this forum will only ever have one point of view, becuase when people come with any view which doesn't fit with the consensus they get shot down in flames and anyone else will not dare speak out of line again.

I've seen it before, people posting offensive replies to requests for software cracks when they pirate software themselves, you've got your little clique here and you don't want to risk falling out of conformity.

Maybe Icke is full of shit with the lizard stuff, in fact it's very likely he is, but how do you KNOW, FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that he is? did he tell you? Have you done a DNA test on the Queen of England? No, you have not. You BELIEVE he is full of shit. And you know, you might be right, but that's all it is.... BELIEF. you don't have the right to tell me or anyone else what is true and what is not when it is just your belief, be it well founded belief or not.

If you look at the rest of my site, you will see *quite clearly* that the main focus of it is buying into belief systems and what we consider real and not real... I think it's all very relevant, and was illustrating a point that you have missed completely. Be that my own fault for how I conveyed it, or your own fault for jumping at the chance to shoot down another dumb Ickeite without looking at what I'm really trying to say.

Besides that it's a bit fucked up to just rubbish someone's beliefs (or what you THINK is someone's beliefs through jumping to conclusions) Would you say the same thing to a Christian? "What you believe is a big load of shit, pal" - Sure debate why you BELIEVE Christianity is wrong, but what you're doing is facsist... trying to make everyone else think the same way as you... you're no better than the government in this respect.

Think about it.

I'm leaving now, cheers for the warm welcome...
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:11 AM
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We're just starting to have fun here, Johnny. The material on your site concerning belief systems may be feasable, but having Icke front and center discounts whatever grain of truth you might have. But hey, don't let my narrow mindedness get you down. :-P
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:22 PM
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This is why this forum will only ever have one point of view, becuase when people come with any view which doesn't fit with the consensus they get shot down in flames and anyone else will not dare speak out of line again.


I'm leaving now, cheers for the warm welcome...
Waaah. Come back soon crybaby! :-P
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