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Old 02-02-2009, 04:03 AM
NotThe1 NotThe1 is offline
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Worse than the Great Depression.
The mainstream media and Wall Street have reached the consensus that the current credit crisis is the worst since the post-war period. George Soros’ statement that ”the world faces the worst finance crisis since WWII” epitomizes the collective wisdom. The crisis is currently the ultimate scapegoat for all the economic evils that currently plague the global financial system and the global economy – from collapsing stock markets of the world to food shortages in third world counties. We are repeatedly assured that the ultimate fault lies with the Credit Crisis itself; if there were no Credit Crisis, all of these terrible things would never have happened in the economy and the financial markets.

The most extraordinary thing is that the mainstream media has never attempted to compare the current economic environment to the one preceding the Great Depression. In essence, it is assumed outright that the Great Depression can never possibly happen again, ever, thus obviating the need for such a comparison. I actually believe that the macroeconomic fundamentals today are much worse, so that we are in for a protracted period of economic depression – a depression much worse than the Great Depression, a depression that would likely be remembered in history as “The Second Great Depression” or The Greater Depression, as Doug Casey has called it so aptly. Here is why I believe that this is the case.

Duplicating Mistakes from the Great Depression

At its core, the environment of the 1990s, and the response of the Fed to the tech-telecom bust has created an economic environment that has encouraged the repetition of the very same mistakes that led to the Great Depression. Here is a concise summary of widely recognized mistakes of the 1920s, without going into the details, with obvious parallels in the current environment:

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Asset Bubbles – first in the stock market during the 1990s, then in real estate during the 2000s, pretty much mirroring the stock and real estate market bubbles of the 1920s.
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Securitization – although not in the very “ultra-modernistic” form and shape of the 2000s, with slicing and dicing of pools and tranches of seniority, it was widely recognized in the 1930s that securitization during the 20s drove the domino effect in the U.S. financial system during the Great Depression.
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Excessive Leverage – just like in 2008 the topic du jour is “deleveraging”, so the unwinding of leverage during the 1930s was the driver of forced liquidations and financial pain. Of course, it was very clear back then that the root of the problem was not deleveraging per se, but the excessive leverage that took place prior to the deleveraging process. “Investment Pools” were then instrumental in both the securitization and excessive leverage, just like the Hedge Funds of today.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:50 PM
The Old Medic The Old Medic is offline
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Default Re: Worse than the Great Depression.

George Soros is hardly a source for any legitimate news.

And, the "mainstream media" has not reached any consensus such as you claim. The economic situation right now is much less severe than what we experienced in 1978/79, under Jimmy Carter,. Interest rates then were running over 21%, inflation was running rampant, and the economy was imploding.

The situation now is absolutely NOTHING like that in the pre-depression period. You can not purchase stocks with NO MONEY OF YOUR OWN, like you could then.

And the great depression was made much worse by the government. it cut off virtually all international trade, it cut off virtually all financing of anything, and it set up such stringent rules thaat banks could NOT lend money to industry.

You really need to base your opinions on people that are not virulently anti-american, like George Soros is.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Worse than the Great Depression.

The title of your thread "Worse than The Great Depression" is misleading.

As I'm sure you are aware, our economy is not yet worse than The Great Depression.

The question is threefold:

Was this economic collapse orchestrated in order to establish more government ownership/intervention?

OR

Was this economic collapse orchestrated in order to create another Great Depression?

OR

Was it just a natural cycle of events?
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