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Old 11-03-2005, 04:53 PM
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It may be well to bear in mind that we, as consumers, are not complete innocent victims of the evil banking cartel, which includes the Federal Reserve.

No one forces us (yet) to own credit cards, or, in fact, to buy anything on credit. I know of people who live complete debt-free lives (including not having a mortgage), but such a life requires sacrifice and a willingness to live without a lot luxuries and extras.

We will always have to pay taxes, and the taxes in the Socialist countries of Europe are far higher than ours.

By blaming much of the economic problems on one particular ethnic group, we are not accepting our share in the responsibilty of the problem.
At least two (maybe three) of the bankers who sit on the Federal Reserve Board are Jewish. They probably do bear some responsibility in the economic disaster that seems to be looming before us.
But so do we.

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Old 11-03-2005, 05:03 PM
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Listen to what the most famous man in the last

2000 years had to say in this matter.

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The Samaritan woman said, “Sir, I perceive that you

are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this

mountain; and you say that in Jerusalem is the place

where men ought to worship.” Jesus responded,

“Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither

on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship

the Father. You worship what you do not know; we

worship what we know, for salvation is from the

Jews.” (John 4:19-22)
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:46 PM
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True.

Then Christ was rejected by the majority of these very same people.

God laid a table and "Da Joooze" were busy with other things.

The rest is history and the last 2000 years have not been good for the Jew on a "quality of life" scale outside the material.

God came in person to ask his chosen people to let up and drop the rigidity. Time to lighten up. He got slapped in the face and others took up the cross. The Jew lost his place in Gods eyes at that moment.

The Jew has his valid place in history. An original people with an amazing story of survival as they brought forth a new age and a set of values from Moses that stands tall today.

You're 2000 years over done and the materialistic rigidity is getting boring. The desire for the Old Testament black and white is over and should not be thrown out, merely added to.

We are all O.T jews at heart. Thats why they do well in this iron dark age that we support. Time for us all to understand Christs relationship to the old way and why He came. Even if you dont "believe", surely any thinking person can understand the importence of the New Testament in our spiritual and material evoloution?

The sheer stubborness that was required to escape from slavery is to be admired and in fact i draw inspiration from the tribulations of the Jew. But there's a time and a place for it...the wars over Grandpa. Time to relax.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:22 PM
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Marsali wrote:
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"No one forces us (yet) to own credit cards, or, in fact, to buy anything on credit. I know of people who live complete debt-free lives (including not having a mortgage), but such a life requires sacrifice and a willingness to live without a lot luxuries and extras.

We will always have to pay taxes, and the taxes in the Socialist countries of Europe are far higher than ours.
In the aggregate we ARE forced to buy credit cards and buy on credit. One person succeeds at the expense of someone else in the system.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:38 PM
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True.

Then Christ was rejected by the majority of these very same people.

God laid a table and "Da Joooze" were busy with other things.

The rest is history and the last 2000 years have not been good for the Jew on a "quality of life" scale outside the material.

God came in person to ask his chosen people to let up and drop the rigidity. Time to lighten up. He got slapped in the face and others took up the cross. The Jew lost his place in Gods eyes at that moment.

The Jew has his valid place in history. An original people with an amazing story of survival as they brought forth a new age and a set of values from Moses that stands tall today.

You're 2000 years over done and the materialistic rigidity is getting boring. The desire for the Old Testament black and white is over and should not be thrown out, merely added to.

We are all O.T jews at heart. Thats why they do well in this iron dark age that we support. Time for us all to understand Christs relationship to the old way and why He came. Even if you dont "believe", surely any thinking person can understand the importence of the New Testament in our spiritual and material evoloution?

The sheer stubborness that was required to escape from slavery is to be admired and in fact i draw inspiration from the tribulations of the Jew. But there's a time and a place for it...the wars over Grandpa. Time to relax.

TB

Should we blame God for turning these Hebrew

slaves into our Masters ?
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:39 PM
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There are a lot of people out there who can't perceive of any other way to purchase the big ticket items (houses, cars, etc.) except through credit.
But surely, in the back of many people's minds, there's a nagging idea that there's something intrinsically, or inherently wrong with the whole 'buy now, pay later' system. Especially when so much interest is charged. It goes against common sense.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:56 PM
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will someone please direct me to the german bashing thread?
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:15 PM
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Should we blame God for turning these Hebrew

slaves into our Masters ?
As I understand it...and it stands out like dogs balls on a frog to me...

The evoloution of human consciousness is about a mutual relationship of respect between the incarnated human being and God. We need God. God needs us.

Human consciousness denotes a certain amount of freedom. Or else why bother with consciousness?

Satan himself at the end of the day is the human ego refusing to hear the corrective voice of God...aka: ones conscience.

That the human race as a whole has sold their soul to worldly power ends in the results we see before us.

God gave man dominion over the Earth in an effort to make him grow up. He can either reflect and prosper or ignore the warnings and end all life from the planet. We have a choice. Any parent must let their children go eventually and hope that they find the true path.

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[img align=left]http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Images/Jung-1.jpg[/img]Mans relation to God probably has to undergo a certain important change: Instead of the propitiating paraise to an unpredictable King or the childs prayer to a loving Father, the responsable living and fulfilling of the divine will in us will be our form of worship and commerce with God.

His goodness means grace and light and his dark side the terrible temptation of power.

Man has already receieved so much knowledge that he can destroy his own planet.

Let us hope that Gods good spirit will guide him in his decisions because it will depend upon mans decision whether God's creation will continue.

Nothing shows more drastically than this possibility how much of divine power has come within the reach of man.

C.G Jung. 1956
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:11 PM
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Jews are the salvation of America?

Utter bullshit!

Ordinary Americans are their own salvation.

Anyone who belives that the people (generalisation many other issues are involved) with a major role in your own enslavement are your messiahs is clearly thinking in a distorted mode.
Things are not that simplistic, some say "the Jews are the ones with all the money so they are the ones who can get us out of this" why would they?
If they have been instrumental in the creation of this system that benifites them and enslaves everyone else (the suggestion of many), they have a vested interest in continuing the status quo.

In Australia you put a dollar in the bank, now the bank can lend this dollar out seven (7) times and gain interest on 6 dollars that actually do not exist.
In America im leed to belive it can be lent out up to 24 times.

This is the creation of money and in essence makes the rich richer and everyone else poorer.
This is illegal!
It is knowen at this stage that most of the money in the world has at no stage or will at any stage actually exist.
It used to be that a bank had to back up its money with preciouse metals and was not allowed to lend out more than it actually had to protect against collapse and impose some order on the finacial system, not anymore they called this deregulation of the banking system, billions in prophets just were not enough.
If you or I did this we would be in jaol very quickly, however if you call yourself a financial institution somehow an entirely different set of rules apply, if any.

Do you remember the Ethiopian famine in the early 80s?
The one where 4/5 million people died?
Well heres how it happened.
The arabs as most of you know have a lot of oil, they sell this oil for prophit, and in the 70s they all got together and formed a group called OPEC and controlled the production of oil and their prophits went up.
Now the arabs have all this money and they dont know what to do with it.
Arabs belive charging interest on money (Ursary) to be a crime and a Jewish practice so all this moneys sitting there.
The world bank comes up and says ok guys you have all this money sitting there and you cant loan it out and charge interest like the criminal jews so how about we take all your money and lend it to the third world for development, at a neglegable interest rate and everybody wins right?
Well yeah untill the world bank jacked the interest rate up several hundred percent not long afterwards and effectivly enslaved the entire third world in a debt noose.
Ethiopia in the midst of drought and a civil war and in 1983/4 still produced enough food to feed the entire population of africa but had to export most of it to pay debt re-payments to the World Bank (incidently controlled by Jews) and 4/5 million people died.
4/5 million deaths for no reason at all, that is the mentality of the people you are talking about at the stroke of a pen they kill millions for prophit on money that isnt theirs to begin with.
That is the world you live in and your childeren will live in, a world controlled allegedly by a group of people who belive they and only they are the chosen ones and everybody else is fit only to be manipulated and enslaved, a truely evil people if this is correct.

Ok, that said lets look at what happens when jews are removed from an economic system.
Germany 1920s - An economy in collapse, massive unemployment, war reperations exceeding national budget, etc etc total chaos and depression.
Adolph Hitler claims in the early 30s Jews and Free Masons are to blame and whips up a national frenzy of emotion and a cult following.
Adolph Hitler comes to influence in the 30s and within 2 to 3 years after removing all Free Masons and Jews from positions of influence suddenly Germanys economy is the strongest and most powerfull in europe - in 2 years?
From utter depression and servitude to the most powerfull economy in Europe in 2/3 years equalizing and exceeding the great British Empire.
How is this possible?

Look at what effect the unlawfull creation of Israel has had on the middle east and indeed the world, its been a blood bath ever since.

How would you describe the influence these people have had on us?
Mighty intelectual people who openly suggest that they and no-one else is worthy of god, haha? if this is so how can anyone treat them seriously, what they are good at it seems is lies and distortion, according to the bible (which many belive) they killed their own messiah because of greed.
The Jewish people (generalisation, group traights etc not nessesarily individuals) have a track record that no matter how much they try and cover up and prosecute those who disagree ADL and such, is self evident for anyone that chooses to look, and honestly would you trust them with anything.

Im sure certain elements are self evident however think for yourself, no one will save you, only yourselves.
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:25 PM
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The arabs as most of you know have a lot of oil, they sell this oil for prophit, and in the 70s they all got together and formed a group called OPEC and controlled the production of oil and their prophits went up.
Does anyone believe a bunch of filthy 3rd world Arabs, off their own backs, got together to tell the noble white man at what price the oil would be sold for?

Bawah ha ha ha ha aha hahah :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Inbetween fucking high class European models in the rectum (thats not cheating you see :lol and generally neglecting their local populations, the wonderful and noble Arab royalty, who are dead against interest! (They have morals ya know!) are pouring the profits in to Wall Street and elswhere to keep the Imperial Mobilization going. The Arab filth put in place by the Globalists for the interest of the Globalists will do as they are F'ing told lest they wake up in the morning with a heart attack...or maybe stray off into the desert short a powerade or 2.

Who can blame Usama for wanting to knock off the lot of them. I dont believe good old Usama works for Uncle Sam nor his Saudi handlers.

I think Usama works for Allah.
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